[Discussion] New logo for the project - Final vote, last post #313
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This discussion was pretty exhausted in #4 |
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Since the May 2019 update, the VScode logos are frameless gradient shapes : It's a shame to enclose the algae in a circle, it would be more in the current trend was alone, and highlighted by a slight gradient. What do you think? |
Good point. Something along these lines? I like this direction more. I tried to go along with the VSCode logo style, chunkier, more flat. Also, Atlassian relatively recent rebranding came to mind, quite inspiring. All that while keeping the Codium algae in mind.
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I liked the shape of your proposal last night. I recognize less coral in this new shape, but I love the shadow folding effect that refers directly to the vscode logo! |
Oh I removed it, was a bit ashamed of the hushed work haha.
Yeah, me too, less coral, also reminds me of a shell maybe? Still ocean related, but then again, VSCode one reminds me of a fish. And it is still somewhat the shape of the Codium algae, with the added connection with the VSCode logo. |
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If you have other ideas for shapes with the same style of shadow folding, don't hesitate! Now we have to see if the dev & community likes it... |
Perhaps this? I'm out of ideas for now. Best to wait for feedback indeed.
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I like it ! |
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Hi @cristianovitorino and everyone on this thread 👋 Thanks so much for the fresh looks. I am open to changes; I am fond of the current logo but I'm all for seeing other options as well. There isn't really a way to get everyone using VSCodium to come vote, but I can leave this issue open for a while to see what kind of reactions we get. I recommend putting ideas in a single comment and asking for votes with emojis as was done with the previous icon thread. We can leave it open for maybe a month or so and see the results. 💙 |
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Hey @stripedpajamas, sounds good to me! -- Vote for the style, color can be decided on a second round of votes. 👍 = 1
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I'm pretty fond of the current icon. Maybe just removing the current icon from it's circle would be a satisfactory change for me. |
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I don't really like the current icon, I agree that the biggest problem is the circle. Aside from aesthetics, the current logo is mostly white space, with the blue having insufficient contrast against it. This results in it blending into general screen-clutter as compared to other app icons in the dock or in the cmd-tab switcher. I really like the green and blue options presented above, and I prefer the ones with a bit of depth-shading to them, despite what current trends in flatness (is that over yet?) might tell us. |
Flat is still standard, but "neumorphism" is trending amongst the design community right now, which I find horrifying... but to each their own. Personally I love flat when well done, but I like to use it as a base to improve upon when we're talking logos and branding, it can benefit from extra "muscle" to give it more unique personalities, pure flat is awesome and sufficient for small Icons and some logos, certain cases, etc, but I love a bit of shading and perspective in the correct places and in the right ammount, applied properly and subtly. If approved, I already know how to improve/tweak a lil bit the proposed redesigns above and make their color iterations for the final choice voting. |
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Hello again @stripedpajamas.
It has been almost 3 months. How should we proceed with this? Are the current amount of votes enough? There is 26 total at the time I'm writing this. Should we leave it a bit longer? Should I proceed further? Or should I close the issue? |
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I would say move on. Doesn't seem the conversation is really going to pick up. |
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Hi @cristianovitorino -- so sorry for the long wait time on this issue. It looks like # 1 wins! Can you do another quick round for color choice? |
For sure. I'll get to it soon. |
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Color choice round. Please keep in mind the metaphor for the logo when choosing, Codium is an algae. Click on the image for full view. 1 = 👍
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Well, i really think this is perfect.
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It does indeed look good. |
Other than constructing a completely new metaphor and style, or staying with the current aspect ratio, perhaps something like this could be a good compromise candidate? Lamé's special quartic was used to construct the outer shell versions. VSCode for reference
Outer shell
Outer shell with a symmetric logo inside
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No no, this circle is bad. Just look at that.
You can make it a little fatter or just increase the top (ideally, maintaining the relationship, as in the original). I think good idea make bottom darker.
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Indeed the circle is a regression on the reflection we have led. I was just imagining a path closer to in ratio 1:1. I'm thinking something like this : |
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Unfortunately, 1:1 is not always achievable. Unless of course not lose in presentability. |
Calm down, it was a SUGGESTION. BTW destructive ego boosted criticism is unnecessary and a waste of everybody's time, this was free and unwarranted. I don't remember displaying disrespect towards you. Adopt proper conversation etiquette or I'm not interested in interacting with you further. "No no" and "this circle is bad" is a useless feedback. "Just look at that" is plain insult at my attempt of collaboration. Aside from that I agree that different ratios can be an alternative, although I discourage mimicking the Microsoft VSCode logo to every single pixel and ratios.
I Disagree. Again I think this is getting too much from the VSCode logo, decreasing the proposal personality.
Tried that. Looks odd. Still thinking about a possible solution.
True. |
Forgive me, I don’t know English well enough, and I don’t yet know what language constructs are disrespectful or insulting. I translated from Russian, and before the translation it did not sound rude or not respectful. And I really liked your concept of the icon, and also tried to offer something. |
I see. I understand now, it was a miscommunication error, lost in translation. All is good then. Let's proceed. I'm iterating and trying new solutions based on the above feedback. |
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@Antoine-Derouin This is a perfect construction of the current proposed VSCodium logo design side-by-side with the Opera and Affinity Designer logos for reference. The proportion is 1:1 horizontally for the VSCodium logo. Does it still bothers you?
In this suggestion, in an attempt to achieve a 1:1 proportion both horizontally and vertically, I introduced the metaphor of an Isopod, a sea creature, on top of the Codium algae metaphor. A bit weird isn't it? Maybe can help derive something else.
Other than that, we can either follow rejedai's suggestion and mimic VSCode logo proportions, or continue to iterate variations. Or discard the proposal, your're the project owner, no hard feelings. If you're not 100% with the design and I keep failing to deliver a final proper redesign that improves the project image, you shouldn't feel obliged to anything. |
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@cristianovitorino I had a preference for the visual contrast of the verse with two folds. |
@Antoine-Derouin But the "double fold" version is not a real Möbius, just letting you know. Only the last two corrected versions are. We can always find problems with any iteration, different perceptions, etc, the thing is how much of a problem it is. We can't do this forever. If the "good" parts overweight the "bad" parts, specially if it's personal perception related, the design is valid and a viable candidate. How should we proceed? Final Vote? Thoughts? New ideas? |
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It's true. Or maybe place the fold somewhere else? |
Something like this?
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@Antoine-Derouin Perhaps darker, longer shadows is what you mean?
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@cristianovitorino That's very good! I'll let the others have their say. |
Last revision. Final vote. Please choose wisely.Any further work from me will be just polish if needed. 1 = ❤️
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cristianovitorino
changed the title
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It looks like 2 is the winner 👍 PRs welcome to transition over to the new icon -- there are a couple variations that would need to be created (I think they are all in https://github.com/VSCodium/vscodium/tree/master/src). Thanks everyone for sticking with this thread! |
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@stripedpajamas Gonna work on that as soon as possible. |
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I know I'm far too late on this, but I only just discovered VSCodium... anyway although I like the new icon design that was chosen I must say it doesn't look at all like a codium algae anymore, if that was the idea behind it I really think it's missed the mark. Just my 2 cents... 🙂 |
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#413 merged; closing this issue. Thanks again @estatra |
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What a shock to see that new logo. I know colors and styles are very personal, but that's 180 degrees turn 🙄 |
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Any openness to revising this? |
The proposal was up for 8 months with votes open and a large number of iterations and meaningful discussion. Any thought, answer, comment or decision on your questions is up to the project owner. I don't particularly see any problem in suggesting a better design or improvement on the current one, but that window is unfortunately gone now after 8 months of iterations and discussion, as the process is finished and a new VSCodium version with the new logo is already released, currently in the process of minor bug fixing on the main icon paddings. |
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@estatra I think the new logo is a definite improvement over the old one, and I appreciate your effort on this. If I was around to vote on this I would have gone for the runner up (4) in this comment, as it looks much more like a codium while still in keeping with the vscode logo design. But that's just me and as I said, I know I'm too late on this. Anyway I think it's a great addition to the project. Cheers! |
Yeah a few people really liked that one, I'm a bit ashamed of it as I think a did a poor job, if it went through to later phases I would have polished it a lot more. I appreciate the feedback, thanks : ) |
We are often our own worst critic 🙂 I think it looks cool as is, like an abstract representation of algae! Hard to get feedback on something like this, other than an issue like this there is no other channel, and obviously people will only come looking for it once it's already changed... |
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Yep it's clear that people will go here once it's already changed as we look at issues when we have... issues. It's good sign that people don't look at it ^^. |
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:) I liked the previous icon better. The new one isn't bad either and I will just get used to it. But it could use some slight improvement - if I may suggest please give it just a bit more contour so it's stands out from the background (especially when on a grayish one, please compare how easier on the eyes is that Element's icon in the picture, also greenish). |
Not a very small number of people. The issue was displayed on the first page for months. Perhaps you mean interest? As people stumbling upon this when trying to solve bugs is not the same behavior as seeing the proposal on the front page for months and choosing not to participate, or not caring, that's an issue on the interest in the subject. Requests for a complete revamp or new proposals after 8 months is not doable, but as I said before, I don't mind new proposals at all, It's just that I felt the VSCodium could use some more modernization on the icon and did a formal proposal, was discussed, accepted and voted upon, it's just not up to me at this point as the process is finished on my part. The project owner and the community is completely free to move on from here and change things, and I see no problem with that. And the title was changed several times to reflect the development cycle of the new icon. It started as a normal and formal proposal, was well received and evolved from there.
It's a bug that is already being working on. As I don't use macOS myself, I'm waiting for the project owner to give me some help when he's available to apply the fix. |
Humans always get grumpy with changes, me included haha. Give it time and it will grow on you : ) I remember when Instagram last changed their logo, oh the horrors on the internet haha I doubt anyone today even remembers that that was even a thing.
Element's (Riot's ) new redesign is actually flat. You might be using a custom, third party icon theme? You also seem to have a rendering issue on your side, which I'm unable to see on mine.
Thanks! |
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Oh sorry first page of what ? 😮 |
GitHub Issues page for this project.
Not at all. There is no discussion forum for this project, the issue was up and visible for months.
Of course not, it was a 8 month process, it wouldn't last forever on the first page.
Nothing to do with logs.
As I said, there is no community forum for VSCodium. Issues and changes are discussed here, and it was visible for months on the first page, it's not ignorance, it's interest.
I think you're mistaken indeed. Of course people will take notice now that the new icon is up, completely normal, it's not a project part of a business with a marketing campaign to spam people "Hey, we're discussing changing the logo". Or to spam people's emails. And a lot of open source projects chooses to discuss such changes internally, it varies from project to project, in VSCodium's case it's quite open, and this issue was open for 8 months on the main channel for issues. All issues are discussed on the project's GitHub issue section. Again, as I said before, it was a long process, parts interested chipped in, it evolved and got to a conclusion, it's up to the project owner and the community to do whetever it is necessary from now on, my contribution is done. And I'm still helping out solving the issues relating to the icon, the padding problem also affects VS Code as well and VSCodium inherited it unknowingly, people don't need to worry about that, for VSCodium one PR is up and done, and another is in the making. |
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Currently VSCodium uses the issue tracker + GitHub reaction emojis to "vote" on changes. If you want to stay up to date on ideas/changes and/or vote for or against them, you can choose to watch the repo. This logo change was open since January, we got votes and discussion. We may revisit the logo in the future, but not right now. Much appreciation to @estatra for the logo and the continued edits/tweaks. |
Hello!
I fell in love with VSCodium and what the community is doing with it!
But I think the icon could use some improvement.
I wanted to explore the good metaphor work that @jaredreich did for the current logo and expand it a bit. Keeping to the theme of Codium tomentosum, the algae, and the color voted at the time on #4 . Also maybe it could use some more expanded branding, like a logotype. Make the whole thing a tad bit more modern.
Sorry I don't know how to change or add a proper label, I'm not sure I have permission?
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