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Compiler author type #43

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adam3smith opened this issue Aug 16, 2011 · 11 comments
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Compiler author type #43

adam3smith opened this issue Aug 16, 2011 · 11 comments

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@adam3smith
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Compiler - as of an anthology or the collected works of XY - is a separate author type with it's own label - in CMoS it's comp. or comps.
This is mentioned in CMoS 14.88
http://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/16/ch14/ch14_sec088.html

The edited, compiled, or translated work of one author is normally listed with the author’s name appearing first and the name(s) of the editor(s), compiler(s), or translator(s) appearing after the title, preceded by edited by or ed., compiled by or comp., or translated by or trans.

The poster here http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/19095/needs-expanded-author-types
also points to CMoS 15.96 (which doesn't seem to exist online) and provides this sample citation:

Manuel Santos, comp., The Collected Works of Henritta Kahn (Boston: I. J. Filbert, 1989).

I'll note that, while clearly extant, it's also exceedingly rare - there is, in fact, not a single example using comp/comps in either the 15th or the 16th edition of CMoS online.

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avram commented Aug 18, 2011

Such a role exists in MARC and thus in MODS (http://www.loc.gov/marc/relators/relaterm.html):

Compiler [com]
Use for a person or organization who produces a work or publication by selecting and putting together material from the works of various persons or bodies.

There's no equivalent in the main BIBO specification.

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rmzelle commented Oct 25, 2011

Is there really a demand for this? If not, I'd rather leave things be for now.

@adam3smith
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I don't know - afaik the above post is the only one on the Zotero forum asking about this, so demand is certainly not high. I'd be fine with leaving this out, but I'm not a good judge of this - would be good to hear from someone from a humanities/literature related field where this is more likely to come up.

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ghost commented Mar 22, 2016

I would certainly recommending adding a role of 'compiler'. FHISO (http://fhiso.org) are currently looking to produce a data vocabulary for citation-elements, and many of their issues with the very broad range of sources cited in genealogy can be found on their mailing lists. One of the things that was immediately obvious for a simple book citation was the absence of 'compiler'.

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What is the relationship between a "compiler" and the French role "directeur du publication" (CSL: editorial-director)?

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bar-foo-x commented May 11, 2020

There's not really much connection with directeur du publication. Any work published in France must have a directeur du publication, who has a particular legal role as responsible for the publication. Outside of France, and maybe other countries with similar legal frameworks, there's no equivalent.

Only certain works have compilers, however. A typical case is anthologies, where the compiler selects and orders the material without substantially modifying it. (This is somewhat different from the usage for genealogies.)

Compiler seems to be the only type of book creator in CMoS that is not accounted for by Zotero: 14.103 (17th ed.) says: "In full note citations and in bibliographies, the abbreviation ed. or eds., comp. or comps., or trans. follows the name, preceded by a comma." The example they give is:

Harold Schechter and Kurt Brown, comps., Killer Verse: Poems of Murder and Mayhem (London: Everyman Paperback Classics, 2011), 33.

MLA also calls for "comp." in bibliographies. Journal style guides that follow Chicago explicitly call for "comp." / "compiled by" (e.g., [https://www.tandf.co.uk/journals/authors/style/reference/tf_F.pdf]).

It's a real annoyance that CSL/Zotero doesn't handle this (admittedly, I say this as an outlier, someone who wrote a book about anthologies). "Editor" is not an accurate description of the compiler's role, so to be correct it's necessary to go through and manually edit the final document.

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denismaier commented May 26, 2020

@bwiernik What do you say? That will be covered by your new name data model as proposed here, right?

If yes, do you think there's a need for a distinct role compiler? Is that common enough?

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I think "compiler" is distinct enough to get its own variable. It's not just a type-specific form of author I don't think.

bwiernik added a commit to bwiernik/schema that referenced this issue May 26, 2020
Gone through most of the issues in zotero-bits. Just a few that still need some thinking there. Still need to process schema, documentation, and csl-evolution

Closes citation-style-language#157 actor
Closes citation-style-language#179 part and part-title
Closes citation-style-language#163 available-date
Closes citation-style-language#114 contributor

Addresses zotero/zotero-bits#43 compiler
Addresses zotero/zotero-bits#27 archive_collection
Addresses citation-style-language/csl-evolution#22 archive_collection
Addresses zotero/zotero-bits#60 chair and organizer
Addresses zotero/zotero-bits#44 supplement
Addresses zotero/zotero-bits#32 division
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@bwiernik As you address this in #202, perhaps you can add the Zotero label.

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Yes, that's the idea, but there aren't keywords for changing tags automatically.

bdarcus pushed a commit to citation-style-language/schema that referenced this issue Jun 7, 2020
Gone through most of the issues in zotero-bits. Just a few that still need some thinking there. Still need to process schema, documentation, and csl-evolution

Closes #157 actor
Closes #179 part and part-title
Closes #163 available-date
Closes #114 contributor

Addresses zotero/zotero-bits#43 compiler
Addresses zotero/zotero-bits#27 archive_collection
Addresses citation-style-language/csl-evolution#22 archive_collection
Addresses zotero/zotero-bits#60 chair and organizer
Addresses zotero/zotero-bits#44 supplement
Addresses zotero/zotero-bits#32 division
bdarcus pushed a commit to citation-style-language/schema that referenced this issue Jun 7, 2020
Add available-date date variables.

Add chair, compiler, contributor, executive-producer, organizer,
producer, performer name variables.

Add archive_collection, division, part-title string variables.

Closes #157, #179, #163, #114

Addresses zotero/zotero-bits#43
Addresses zotero/zotero-bits#27
Addresses zotero/zotero-bits#60
Addresses zotero/zotero-bits#44
Addresses zotero/zotero-bits#32
Addresses citation-style-language/csl-evolution#22
bdarcus added a commit to citation-style-language/schema that referenced this issue Jun 7, 2020
Add available-date date variable.

Add chair, compiler, contributor, executive-producer, organizer,
producer, performer name variables.

Add archive_collection, division, part-title string variables.

Finally, pretty-prints csl-data.json using prettier.

Closes #157, #179, #163, #114

Addresses zotero/zotero-bits#43
Addresses zotero/zotero-bits#27
Addresses zotero/zotero-bits#60
Addresses zotero/zotero-bits#44
Addresses zotero/zotero-bits#32
Addresses citation-style-language/csl-evolution#22
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