Make a new version of MSDeploy that is CrossPlat #583
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Ok let's see how many people are interested in running MSDeploy (aka Web Deploy) on Linux. I was thinking SFTP/rsync are already well rooted with good support, so not much need for MSDeoloy but I'm happy to be wrong :) |
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No offense to anyone who wants this feature but this is not an area that I want people to invest efforts in. Docker has a nicer deployment packaging concept than MSDeploy. It's more isolated, widely adopted, tech agnostic, etc., etc. It would not hurt to have this xplat but in terms of spending efforts, I would rather for them to be spend somewhere else. |
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I agree Docker is important too but some teams will not use Docker. Docker is a hosting platform and requires more infrastructure setup in general. MSDeploy is deployment tool only and may be a better option for some teams. |
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I too agree that Docker is far more important for cloud based environments. But there will always be those small inhouse projects or something that will be deployed within a LAN, which most definitely not have elaborate DevOps teams or budget for that matter. For these cases a CrossPlat MSDeploy will certainly be a god send. |
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Despite originally jumping on the retweet train, my thoughts are actually starting to echo @sayedihashimi and @tugberkugurlu. While I do like the features MSDeploy has beyond file syncronisation (database providers, etc), Docker solves these problems in other ways and is already cross platform. So count me for team-Docker in terms of what I'd like to see invested in. |
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Yes the Docker story is being invested in regardless of this. |
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This is great news. We can have our cake and eat it too! Another thought: Even with Docker you still you need a good way to deploy your application to the Docker image initially. WebDeploy could fill that need on Windows/Linux/Mac. |
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Ended up with 12 RTs on Twitter for this and I have less than 200 followers. We need to get the word out better. I'll keep promoting.
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Here is one more case when it may be useful: Front-end projects (just static files) hosted in bitbucket may use its pipeline feature to build assets and immediately deploy them to staging via msdeploy without any fancy technologies and need to have dedicated windows server |
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Docker is nice and all but msdeploy has a real use case for enterprise and on-premise. Docker only natively supports Windows 2016. Will an enterprise replace 1000s of servers just to use Docker? Msdeploy is a real solid solution for dev-ops. @rschiefer has it right. MsDeploy just needs a little love in the documention area and code base. Rob Eisenberg and the team at docs.microsoft.com have been doing an awesome job getting the docs modernized. Microsoft has been amazing me with all the openness over the last couple years. Let's keep it going with MsDeploy |
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I was just chatting with @shirhatti about this yesterday. @shirhatti we need to get this going! cc @Andrew-MSFT |
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The community can help too! Sign me up. |
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Sign me up too... |
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We are using msdeploy to deploy apps on Azure. Definitely making it cross-platform is great! rsync is not useful since our production service runs on app service. |
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It's been over 12 months since this issue was logged. Do you think it will eventually make it onto the board for development? |
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I just want to point out that this is critical for deployment of our .net core websites to Azure. Especially when CI systems like Jenkins is involved. Since most of our software is built on Linux our only deployment avenue is manual FTP deployment, which is proving to be extremely error prone and does not allow features like auto-swap (for no downtime deployments to our non-production systems). |
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Please open source current version of msdeploy as is |
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@dpen2000 I'm not that's terribly realistic. Current state of the codebase aside, one of the primary intents of open sourcing MSDeploy would be to allow it to go cross platform but major things like feature delegation don't map well to non-IIS environments, so thought will need to be put into what that looks like before MS will put the code out there. |
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We currently use MSDeploy to deploy frontend artifacts to Azure. Other than opting for far worse alternatives (like FTP or committing the compiled targets to That's a shame 👎. Is there any progress with this? It's been over a year now. |
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+Sayed
Sayed, have any further discussions occurred regarding extending MSDeploy to be cross-platform?
Thanks,
Robb Schiefer
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We currently use MSDeploy to deploy frontend artifacts to Azure. Other than opting for far worse alternatives (like FTP or committing the compiled targets to git), we have no other option but to develop (or at least deploy from) Windows.
That's a shame 👎.
Is there any progress with this? It's been over a year now.
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@sayedihashimi ^ I'm guessing you meant to ping this guy, @rschiefer ? |
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I'm discussing with @shirhatti to see if we can make some progress here. |
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Good to hear. Hoping the community can contribute as well.
Thanks,
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I'm discussing with @shirhatti<https://github.com/shirhatti> to see if we can make some progress here.
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Yup, I personally have a vested interest in the success of this endeavor, so if there's anything you guys need, do tell. cc @Linkgoron |
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I'd be happy to chime in too. |
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@sayedihashimi @rschiefer Any news wrt this? Anything we can do (in terms of people to annoy/pull requests to submit)? |
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I would be really interested in something like this. I searched for an alternative on the same level but unfortunately there doesn't seem to be one... |
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2016... 2017... and now 2018. Not much momentum on this idea. I want it tho. Or can someone tell me how to deploy an asp.net core app from Mac to IIS? |
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@shirhatti any update or thoughts? |
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@chrisbecke Visual Studio for Mac allows you to publish to Azure App Service from OS X. While we'd like a more full-featured WebDeploy for OS X, we haven't made any progress on that front. |
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I am also looking for a cross-platform msdeploy. Our build server uses dockers to compile .net core code, but I need to deploy to IIS on windows test/prd servers. A cross-platform msdeploy would be very helpful. |
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Would like to have an one click deploy to linux. |
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Over 2 years in and still no plans. Microsoft recently open sourced WinForms and WPF. Surely MS can at least make plans to open source MsDeploy and the community would step up contribute. |
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I assumed there was some blocker preventing .NET Core from shipping this functionality, and it's pretty disappointing to see the only blocker is perceived lack of interest. If .NET Core is going to replace .NET Framework for new code bases, its tooling should support the small businesses .NET Framework supported. We will never be using Docker at my current workplace and that is not a reasonable replacement plan. |
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If asp dotnet core has the goal to be cross-platform, MSDeploy should be cross-platform as well. Just a heads-up: this is not a complaint, I know it's not something we can have right now. But I'd like at least this request to be considered by MS. If it's not doable at all, just let us know. it would be great to have this tool on linux though |
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The more research I put into Web Deploy / msdeploy the more curious the situation becomes. Nominally the technology seems to have been abandoned by MS in 2012. Nonetheless it seems to have become the secret sauce behind Azure and, if not the msdeploy tool itself, a myriad of powershell scripts that use the publish profile xml files originally consumed by msdeploy are now used for publishing, for example, Service Fabric applications both locally and to Azure. |
MSDeploy vNext should built on top of .NET Core and be crossplat. A common deployment contract across all supported platforms would be one less thing for developers to worry about so they can focus on solving their business problems.
MSDeploy has been a great tool which has stood the test of time with little investment. We could reuse the DSL but rewrite the backend, extend existing providers to cover other platforms and adding Linux and OSx specific providers as well. The other big need here is documentation. MSDeploy has always suffered from a lack of good documentation. Obviously it would be open source as well.
Its a great tool, lets give it a proper future!
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