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Corrections and Esperanto update for isolating Pandunia
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![](http://www.pandunia.info/sura/familytree.gif "Pandunia's family tree") ![](http://www.pandunia.info/sura/familytree.gif "Pandunia's family tree")




#### Why analytic structure was chosen for Pandunia? #### Why isolating structure was chosen for Pandunia?


Different structures were considered and tested during the development of Pandunia. The main choice was between an agglutinating and an isolating structure. Different structures were considered and tested during the development of Pandunia. The main choice was between an agglutinating and an isolating structure.


1. In an agglutinating language every word can be clearly divided into component parts. For example Esperanto word "niaj" (our) consists of three parts: ni- (we), -a- (adjective marker) and -j (plural marker). 1. In an agglutinating language every word can be clearly divided into component parts. For example Esperanto word "niaj" (our) consists of three parts: ni- (we), -a- (adjective marker) and -j (plural marker).
2. In an isolating language every word consists of just one part. For example in Mandarin Chinese the word for "our" consists of three separate words: wǒ (first person pronoun), men (plural marker) and de (possessive marker). Then they are simply put together: wǒmende, 我们的. 2. In an isolating language every word consists of just one part. For example in Mandarin Chinese the word for "our" consists of three separate words: wǒ (first person pronoun), men (plural marker) and de (possessive marker). Then they are simply put together: wǒmende, 我们的.


Pandunia is best described as an _analytic language_. Pandunia uses a handful of suffixes for marking parts of speech and for word derivation. On the other hand, Pandunia uses separate words to express things like person, number, mood, tense and aspect, which are typically expressed with inflection in agglutinating languages. Pandunia is an isolating language. It uses separate words to express things like person, number, mood, tense and aspect, which are typically expressed with inflection in agglutinating languages.


To demonstrate the difference, let's compare the same sentence in Esperanto (an agglutinating language) and Pandunia. Parts of word are separated with the bar sign. To demonstrate the difference, let's compare the same sentence in Esperanto (an agglutinating language) and Pandunia. Parts of word are separated with the bar sign.


Esperanto: Mi pov|as vid|i du bel|a|j|n okul|o|j|n nun. Esperanto: Mi pov|as vid|i du bel|a|j|n okul|o|j|n nun.
Pandunia: mi ken vid|a du sundar yen nun. Pandunia: mi ken vide du sundar yen nun.
I can see two beautiful eyes now. I can see two beautiful eyes now.


So while Pandunia is not free from inflection, it is used relatively little.

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#### What is a worldlang? #### What is a worldlang?
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#### Did Esperanto and its kind influence Pandunia? #### Did Esperanto and its kind influence Pandunia?


Yes, with a limited effect. In the end, very little. Esperanto has an ingenious system for marking parts of speech (PoS) with vowel endings. In Esperanto nouns end in -o, adjectives end in -a, verbs in -i and adverbs in -e. (These are the dictionary forms. Some of them are inflected in actual use.) Similar PoS marking systems are used in the offshoots of Esperanto, such as Ido and Novial. The system is fascinating and it was tested in the development of Pandunia. However, it didn't fit together with Pandunia's diverse vocabulary and actually it made the grammar more complicated than what it needs to be. So finally all obvious Esperanto influences were left out.

Esperanto has an ingenious system for marking parts of speech (PoS) with vowel endings. In Esperanto nouns end in -o, adjectives end in -a, verbs in -i and adverbs in -e. (These are the dictionary forms. Some of them are inflected in actual use.) Similar PoS marking systems are used in the offshoots of Esperanto. Most notable offshoots are Ido and Novial. In Novial the endings are different: nouns end in -e or -um, adjectives in -i, verbs in -a and adverbs in -men. Almost all words were marked with the part of speech markers in Esperanto and its kind.

Pandunia is different. It has part of speech markers for the noun, the verb and the adjective, but they are not always required. For example, when the root word is an adjective, it doesn't need the adjectival ending. Moreover, the endings are never inflected in Pandunia. So Pandunia is, in its core, a completely different type of language.




#### Are the makers of Pandunia aware of the history of the IAL movement? #### Are the makers of Pandunia aware of the history of the IAL movement?
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- 6 **sis** - 6 **sis**
- 7 **set** - 7 **set**
- 8 **bat** - 8 **bat**
- 9 **noy** - 9 **noi**


Greater numbers are simply made by putting one digit after another – exactly like they are written in the universal numerical language of mathematics. Greater numbers are simply made by putting one digit after another – exactly like they are written in the universal numerical language of mathematics.


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Note! The reflexive pronoun **se** is used for all persons, so it corresponds to English _myself_, _yourself_, _himself_, _herself_, _itself_, ourselves_ and _themselves_ all at once. Note! The reflexive pronoun **se** is used for all persons, so it corresponds to English _myself_, _yourself_, _himself_, _herself_, _itself_, ourselves_ and _themselves_ all at once.


**mi vide se** - I see myself.
**ta vide se** - She sees herself. / He sees himself.



### Demonstrative pronouns ### Demonstrative pronouns


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But when two similar words (that belong to the same part of speech) are put together, it is necessary to separate them. Then the verb **e** (to be) is used. But when two similar words (that belong to the same part of speech) are put together, it is necessary to separate them. Then the verb **e** (to be) is used.


> **ta e mi.** - It is me. > **ta e mi.** - It is me.
> **tu e batu.** - That is a stone. > **sa e batu.** - That is a stone.
> **batu e ting.** - Stone is a thing. > **batu e ting.** - Stone is a thing.
> **jovan e sundar.** - Young is beautiful. > **jovan e sundar.** - Young is beautiful.
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Active sentences are frequently in the subject–verb–object word order (SVO). Active sentences are frequently in the subject–verb–object word order (SVO).


> **mi yem pingo.** - I eat apples. > **mi yem pingo.** - I eat apples.
> **mi auda musik.** - I hear music. > **mi audi musik.** - I hear music.
> **mi vide ti.** - I see you. > **mi vide ti.** - I see you.
There is also alternative word order, subject–object–verb (SOV). It can be used only in short sentences. There is also alternative word order, subject–object–verb (SOV). It can be used only in short sentences.
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In passive sentences, the subject is the undergoer of the action and there is no object. In passive sentences, the subject is the undergoer of the action and there is no object.


> **ti vide.** - You are seen. > **ti vide.** - You are seen.
> **musik se auda.** - Music is heard. > **musik audi.** - Music is heard.






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A preposition begins a prepositional phrase. In a simple prepositional phrase the preposition is complemented by a pronoun or a noun phrase. A preposition begins a prepositional phrase. In a simple prepositional phrase the preposition is complemented by a pronoun or a noun phrase.


> **mi na hotel.** - I'm in the hotel. > **mi na hotel.** - I'm in the hotel.
> **mi sona na hotel.** - I sleep in the hotel. > **mi son na hotel.** - I sleep in the hotel.
> **mi sona ze xam do suba.** - I sleep since evening until morning. > **mi son ze xam do suba.** - I sleep since evening until morning.
> **mi safara ze london do paris.** - I travel from London to Paris. > **mi safar ze london do paris.** - I travel from London to Paris.
Prepositions can be complemented also by a verb phrase. Then they refer to time. Prepositions can be complemented also by a verb phrase. Then they refer to time.


> **mi denga ze ti toka.** - I have waited since you left. > **mi deng ze ti toka.** - I have waited since you left.
> **mi denga do ti lai jia.** - I wait until you come home. > **mi deng do ti lai jia.** - I wait until you come home.
> **mi denga na ti sona.** - I wait while you sleep. > **mi deng na ti son.** - I wait while you sleep.
More precise expressions of place and time are expressed with _a preposition + a place word + **de**_. More precise expressions of place and time are expressed with _a preposition + a place word + **de**_.


> **na dur de** - for the time/duration of > **na dur de** - for the time/duration of
> **mi denga na dur de ti sona.** - I wait for the time when you sleep. > **mi deng na dur de ti son.** - I wait for the time when you sleep.
> **na lok de** - at the place of > **na lok de** - at the place of
> **mi denga na lok de ti toka.** - I wait at the place where you left. > **mi deng na lok de ti toka.** - I wait at the place where you left.
> **na xia de** - under, below > **na xia de** - under, below
> **un kuta lala na xia de meza.** - A dog lies under the table. > **un kuta lala na xia de meza.** - A dog lies under the table.
> **na men de** - on the surface of > **na men de** - on the surface of
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In addition, a preposition can be followed immediately by a verb. In addition, a preposition can be followed immediately by a verb.


> **dura** - to last, to take time > **dura** - to last, to take time
> **mi denga na dura ti sona.** - _I wait during you sleep._ > **mi deng na dura ti son.** - _I wait during you sleep._

### List of prepositions

**na ante** before. **na bada** after.
**na cen** in front. **na pice** behind.
**na xia** under, below. **na gau** over, above.
**na jin** near. **na long** far away. **na visin** beside, next to.






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- [English-Pandunia](english-pandunia.md) dictionary - [English-Pandunia](english-pandunia.md) dictionary
- [Pandunia-English](pandunia-english.md) dictionary - [Pandunia-English](pandunia-english.md) dictionary


## Articles

- [Pandunia - a new world pidgin](intro.html)

## Join Others ## Join Others


Some people are already interested about Pandunia and they are using it. Here are some places where you can find them: Some people are already interested about Pandunia and they are using it. Here are some places where you can find them:
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