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@gewahr qz is calculating wattage based on speed and inclination for your elliptical (so that's why changing the resistance doesn't affect the speed in the game). Are you using zwift or rouvy in bike mode or run mode? |
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Hi Roberto. thanks for your quick answer. I am using zwift and Rouvy in run mode with the elliptical . There is no inclination in this elliptical . It is just like a stairmaster ... I just find that if I increase the cadence let say from 50 to 86 (same as when i run faster ) , I should go faster ( so less minutes/km) and my wattage should increase it is not always the case . And also even if the resistance is not affecting speed is there a way that QZ would calculate wattage considering the extra effort that I am doing when I increase my resistance manually from 1 to let say 18 ? basically increasing the resistance is the same as increasing the inclination in that elliptical it makes it harder to maintain the same cadence or speed. |
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@gewahr zwift and rouvy in run mode don't read the wattage, but only the speed. So a couple of questions:
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ok sure thanks. i will test it this week and come back with data for a possible algorithm. the machine looks like that |
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great!
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ok sure thanks. i will test it this week and come back with data for a
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hi Roberto i tested the elliptical with ifit not sure how i can get data that is usable. Sent you videos and pictures through a link from Smash ( like we transfert) because it was too big to send by Email Let me know if we can use any data |
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sorry for the delay @gewahr so for example picking up a 64 cadence value <style> </style>
I don't know why the speed is not increasing (but I guess we can ignore this since we are already reading the actual speed value from the elliptical itself). So I can linearize a power algorithm
what do you think? than i can also apply the same concept for the cadence. I will check also in your first debug log if the power value maybe it's already coming through |
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hi Roberto sorry forgot about the topic. I am using the elliptical in run mode with zwift ( rouvy do not support running any more) . in this elliptical there is no inclination . Changing the resistance makes it harder so speed and cadence are harder to maintain |
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Hi Roberto ! concerning my last reply from last month |
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sorry @gewahr very busy weeks! in this log https://github.com/cagnulein/qdomyos-zwift/files/10909018/debug-lun__mars_6_09_06_02_2023.log the speed sent from the machine was completely unstable. yes I can do whatever we want :) if you can write me the formula that you would like to add I will add it! Let me know! |
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Hi Roberto . Thanks for answering in your very busy schedule. I'll start by
sending you debug logs at different resistance levels to check if the speed
is stable as soon as possible while connecting QZ to the elliptical only
without zwift
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… sorry @gewahr <https://github.com/gewahr> very busy weeks! in this log
https://github.com/cagnulein/qdomyos-zwift/files/10909018/debug-lun__mars_6_09_06_02_2023.log
the speed sent from the machine was completely unstable.
yes I can do whatever we want :) if you can write me the formula that you
would like to add I will add it! Let me know!
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@gewahr if you are satisfied with the linear equation that i did in the previous comment based on the power, i can add that one to start. let me know |
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Hi roberto i'm sending you six logs that i did with the elliptical connected to QZ for 6 resistance levels ( 1, 2,5, 10, 14 and 18). When you can check if the speed is stable and when you can go with the linear equation that you want and I'll test it . Thanks |
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@gewahr checked. In all the files the speed received from the elliptical goes from 9km/h to 12km/h so I guess it's not releated to the resistance level. Is what you are looking for? |
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No my problem was that sometimes when it is connected to zwift . if i increase the cadence i expect the speed to increase because i am putting more effort and i read for exemple 13km/h then 12km/h then 9 km/h then again 12 in a very short time for approximately the same cadence . It is like zwift or QZ are receiving a lower value of speed for a split second and speed is not related to the effort that i am applying . Also the resistance in my elliptical can only be changed manually on the console of the elliptical . i would consider that a higher resistance is like a higher incline so my wattage should increase and my speed and cadence drop unless i applying more effort .. but i guess zwift in running does not look at that . In conclusion i find that my elliptical connected to zwift does not give a realistic speed related to the cadence or resistance that i apply ....maybe if speed was calculated from cadence . |
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I got your point. Yes Zwift for running is using the speed directly without any other variables. So what you're saying makes sense. |
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I think that would be the best . Because the power generated by the
elliptical increase if I increase the resistance so that simulate a higher
inclination when i run . No emergency..i'm not in a hurry. Thank you very
much !
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… I got your point. Yes Zwift for running is using the speed directly
without any other variables. So what you're saying makes sense.
So what we can try to do, it's increasing the speed proportionally to the
power read from the elliptical itself. What do you think?
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ok i will think about how do this!
i will let you know!
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I think that would be the best . Because the power generated by the
elliptical increase if I increase the resistance so that simulate a higher
inclination when i run . No emergency..i'm not in a hurry. Thank you very
much !
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> I got your point. Yes Zwift for running is using the speed directly
> without any other variables. So what you're saying makes sense.
> So what we can try to do, it's increasing the speed proportionally to the
> power read from the elliptical itself. What do you think?
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tyvm- Let me know if you need more data |
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@gewahr I was thinking about this and I have a question: when you increase the resistance on your machine, is the speed on the console matching the speed on qz? |
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Yes, it does! i just tested it today. ty
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… @gewahr <https://github.com/gewahr> I was thinking about this and I have
a question: when you increase the resistance on your machine, is the speed
on the console matching the speed on qz?
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ok perfect, i will continute to think how to do it so :) |
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ok @gewahr I guess I found a perfect way to do so. I'm reverse the wattage calculation in order to calculate speed. Then you can of course trim the calculation using the speed gain and offset if you are still interested on this. Let me know |
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Yes, of course I'm interested. Take your time though; no hurries. Very
much appreciated
thanks
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… ok @gewahr <https://github.com/gewahr> I guess I found a perfect way to
do so. I'm reverse the wattage calculation in order to calculate speed.
Then you can of course trim the calculation using the speed gain and offset
if you are still interested on this. Let me know
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done @gewahr ! it will be in the 2.13.96 (i will send you it later today). Remember to enable the speed from wattage setting in the bike settings (yes it's not in the right place but I reused an exising setting for this). |
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sent!
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Hi roberto thanks for sending it ..but the results are the same as the previous version. speed is at zero as are all the values that did not work. Nothing changed. is it 2.16.20 ? |
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nope, 2.16.22
check test flight
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… Hi roberto tthanks for sending it ..but the result are the same as the
previous version. Nothing changed. is it 2.16.20 ?
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Could you send it to ***@***.*** ? maybe this is why it did
not install. My IPAD is registered to that Email address.
When I open it in testflight it just says open ...doesn't seem to install.
Thanks
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… nope, 2.16.22
check test flight
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send me an email to roberto.viola83 at gmail.com indicating this ticket , i can't see the email address here :) |
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Hi Roberto . The new version 2.22 works except that my resistance is reset to 1 after approximately one minute and then the console of the elliptical shows a speed of zero while QZ keeps registering a normal speed for it . Can QZ reset my data or modify data on my console or it just collects data from it ? Here is my debug file in case u need it |
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it shouldn't. Does it work right before this version? The log that you sent me has speed always a 0, maybe the wrong debug log? |
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Used to do things like that in previous version also. but not all the time |
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I'll check for the debug file |
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i have 4 debug files for that day [debug-dim__nov__12_12_07_30_2023.log](https://github.com/cagnulein/qdomyos-zwift/files/13335853/debug-di debug-dim__nov__12_12_07_30_2023.log |
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great I checked and it's the elliptical that it sends the wattage to 0 every minutes for a frame. I'm filtering it and I will send a new beta ASAP |
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Awesome, thanks! Could you send it to the gwmultivisions e-mail. Thanks !
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… great I checked and it's the elliptical that it sends the wattage to 0
every minutes for a frame. I'm filtering it and I will send a new beta ASAP
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Hi Roberto ! just checking if you had time to do a new beta since we talked about it ( filtering the wattage to o for a frame) . Otherwise, no problem let me know when you have time. Thanks |
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not yet, i will try this week. really having bad time to keep the beta here
with all the tickets
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… Hi Roberto ! just checking if you had time to do a new beta since we
talked about it ( filtering the wattage to o for a frame) . Otherwise, no
problem let me know when you have time. Thanks
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Hi Roberto is the last beta 6.26 and if tho i guess it did not yet fixed my problem . Because every minute or so the resistance goes to the minimum and the speeds drops like before. When you have time to fix it give me news. Thanks |
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ok i tried another approach now, i will send you another one in the next days. it seems that your trainer for some moments, stops to send metrics :( |
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No worries, thanks for the update!
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… ok i tried another approach now, i will send you another one in the next
days. it seems that your trainer for some moments, stops to send metrics :(
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sent the update!
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… No worries, thanks for the update!
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> ok i tried another approach now, i will send you another one in the next
> days. it seems that your trainer for some moments, stops to send metrics
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Hi Roberto. Question for you when you have time . When i connect my Elliptical nordictrack fs5i to QZ and then to zwift or Rouvy for running , is there a more realistic way to control the speed . Sometimes I accelerate and the speed in zwift doesn't seem correlated it would give spped of 4.5/km then 6.5 in the same 2 seconds while i maintain the same cadence . It's like my treadmill is not sending the data all the time to Zwift or Rouvy. Also increasing the resistance of the treadmill does not have influence on any data in zwift or Rouvy. Sending you the debug file of march 6. No hurries. thanks
debug-lun__mars_6_09_06_02_2023.log
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