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Propose new RFC for migrating off Sympa. #63

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juliandunn
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Heads up @nathenharvey

I will post to the mailing list (hehe) and hopefully we can get some comments & have this reviewed by the next community meeting.

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👍

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As there seems to be no way to access Google Groups through NNTP, I'm personally not in favor of that (the current list is mirrored through gmane.org).
But I can understand your motivation behind that decision.

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mivok commented Nov 5, 2014

If I'm not mistaken, there's nothing stopping the google groups version of the list from being mirrored through gmane. If so, would that address your concern about NNTP support?

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Oh, indeed.. I thought the google groups are not mirrored by gmane, but in fact they are. Fine.. go for it 👍

This RFC proposes to migrate the existing Sympa-run mailing lists at
`lists.opscode.com` to Google Groups.

There are only two mailing lists of note: `chef` and `chef-dev`. The

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opscode-announce is no longer used?

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I don't believe it is, at least not consistently. We've had many releases since August 2014, when we last thought to post to it.

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We tend to post to just the chef and chef dev lists with announcements, as well as always posting to the blog. We should resurrect opscode-announce in some form at least, as that likely has value.

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Sure, we could create a new chef-announce Google Group, outside of the scope of this RFC. I wouldn't bother to migrate what's in opscode-announce now. Agree/disagree?

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Agree.

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adamhjk commented Nov 5, 2014

I'm 👍 on this.

The one requirement is that it come with a new addition to the maintainers file, which is for the mailing list. I will approve this as soon as I know I'll have an LT for maintenance. (looking at you, @juliandunn )


All existing subscribers on the current mailing list(s) would be
migrated to their counterparts on Google Groups.

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Should we migrate subscribers? I'd advocate for inviting all current subscribers and letting them decide if they'd like to accept the invitation or simply ignore it.

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I think it's better to migrate as-is -- that way users aren't annoyed that they need to re-subscribe/confirm anything in order to keep getting their email.

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@adamhjk Sure, since RFC #58 hasn't been ratified yet there's nothing for me to PR against, but you can put me down for mailing list maintainer or whatnot.

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Threadable.com, which is a mailing list service that's been built by some friends of mine, may be a viable alternative to Google Groups. It may complicate the NNTP case and would make importing archives difficult, but these may be offset by the features Threadable brings (API, subscribe / unsubscribe individual threads, easy management of multiple groups inside an organization, good webui, etc.)

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adamhjk commented Nov 13, 2014

🚢 👍 lets get off of sympa.

@juliandunn
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Thanks Adam. Paging @opscode/rfc-editors to merge this, then I can start doing the needful.

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Propose new RFC for migrating off Sympa.
@coderanger coderanger merged commit fd98d93 into chef-boneyard:master Nov 13, 2014
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