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btag HIP mitigation + ctag bugfix (80X) #15601
btag HIP mitigation + ctag bugfix (80X) #15601
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A new Pull Request was created by @ferencek (Dinko Ferencek) for CMSSW_8_0_X. It involves the following packages: PhysicsTools/PatAlgos @cmsbuild, @cvuosalo, @slava77, @montjj, @davidlange6 can you please review it and eventually sign? Thanks. cms-bot commands are list here #13028 |
@cmsbuild please test |
The tests are being triggered in jenkins. |
Once this PR gets integrated, all people will need to do in order to get One question, though, is whether to backport #15684. It will improve the On 08/30/2016 06:16 PM, Slava Krutelyov wrote:
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On 8/31/16 7:39 AM, Dinko Ferencek wrote:
Is there a significant performance cost to using If it's minimal, then it's better to keep trackMinLayers=0 to be
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@slava77, I agree that keeping trackMinLayers=0 is probably a better solution. This is primarily because of cases where people would prefer to start re-making their ntuples with the BTV HIP mitigation applied on top of the old MiniAOD as opposed to waiting for the re-MiniAOD. However, this complicates things a bit in terms of the b tagging setups people use and those for which the SF are being provided. And here the ROC curve is not the end of the story because two setups could have very similar ROC curves but different efficiencies for a specific discriminator cut. So we might need a very quick study to see what configuration to keep. I would also like to hear from @pvmulder, @arizzi, @imarches, @carolinecollard in case they have some suggestions. |
I think that the ROC curves added to the description of #15684 give us the needed answers. It should be fine to stay with |
Seeing these ROC curves and the discriminator shapes makes me think that Cheers, On 01/09/16 01:33, Dinko Ferencek wrote:
Dr. Petra Van Mulders Inter-university Institute for High Energies (IIHE), |
@pvmulder |
On 9/1/16 7:50 AM, Petra Van Mulders wrote:
Nominally, we should still test the corresponding GT update in 81X.
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@slava77 and @pvmulder I am still a bit worried about including the track probability calibrations in GT since has not been derived with the alignments we are proposing both for MC Tranche-IV and data re-reco. Maybe the effect is subleading w.r.t the requirement of btag track mitigation. Please confirm. |
At any rate, @slava77 |
@mmusich the alignment is what it is and should not keep us from having these calibrations, where at least the new track category is defined (which is not the case now). So, it may not be perfect, but at least we will have something working. A new calibration can always be fed afterwards using a recipe that runs on miniAOD (should we see that it is really needed). |
@mmusich I see that GT has 3 records changes compared to latest 81X |
@slava77 that's correct. |
So, based on https://cms-conddb-dev.cern.ch/cmsDbBrowser/diff/Prod/gts/81X_mcRun2_asymptotic_Candidate_2016_08_30_11_31_55/81X_mcRun2_asymptotic_Candidate_2016_09_01_15_54_19 Here is an incremental diff on top of #15421 on ttbar PU35 (wf 25202) I suppose, there will need to be an update for BTagTrackProbability2DRcd as well. There is a bit of an improvement in IP tag roc (70 events only, can't be too convincing) |
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hold formal hold to indicate that this PR changes reco and miniAOD products. |
Pull request has been put on hold by @slava77 |
backport for some reason my earlier message #15601 (comment) was not seen by the bot to trigger "backport" label |
@slava77 BTagTrackProbability2DRcd is not used, hence no update is expected at this point. Thanks for your support and patience with this PR! |
Backport of #15421 but with the default b-tag track selection unchanged and the HIP mitigation added through an extra set of b-tag discriminators added to slimmedJets.
If needed, the PR will be updates accordingly with what will be decided for the 80X re-reco.
Update (Aug. 29, 2016): This PR is now a verbatim backport of #15421
Update (Aug. 29, 2016): Added backport of #15659