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Discipline V2 Groupbuy #57

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charles0917 opened this issue Jul 17, 2021 · 85 comments
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Discipline V2 Groupbuy #57

charles0917 opened this issue Jul 17, 2021 · 85 comments

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@charles0917
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charles0917 commented Jul 17, 2021

@coseyfannitutti
Hi a lot of people have not uet received their discipline V2 from last November's groupbuy. Can you please give an update whether they will be shipped? Last update you gave was from over three months ago. Thanks.

@charles0917
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@coseyfannitutti So I'm assuming you just decided to keep the money and not give the products? Pretty sure that decision will hurt you down the road as you've broken the law.

@coseyfannitutti
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coseyfannitutti commented Jul 29, 2021

That's absolutely not my intention at all. About half the orders have already gone out, and a lot (hopefully the remainder of all outstanding orders) will be going out in the next week.

I know this has been a rough group buy to say the least. Several unforeseen delays and trying to do it all myself got the best of me on this one. I understand that everyone that's contributed to this project works hard for their money, and moving forward I intend to make a more pointed effort to respect the fact that you've spent your hard earned dollars at the store and also bring in some help with packing and sorting.

@zanderc1
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zanderc1 commented Jul 30, 2021

@coseyfannitutti Hey man, really hope you’re doing well during these tough times. A lot of people are still checking on the website for updates. Are you planning on making an update about this groupbuy on that website soon? I thought it would help with some people out with their concerns.

(EDIT): Theres a on-going subreddit about this topic and a lot of people wanted an update about the groupbuy from the website and a lot of people are still worried about their orders and they (seem) that they want an update about it in the website.

@ningyuuu
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@coseyfannitutti thanks for checking in! I was a little worried you were facing some health issues during this period, but glad to hear everything is well. Will patiently wait for the order to deliver.

@tifandev
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tifandev commented Aug 1, 2021

@coseyfannitutti Hey man, really hope you’re doing well during these tough times. A lot of people are still checking on the website for updates. Are you planning on making an update about this groupbuy on that website soon? I thought it would help with some people out with their concerns.

(EDIT): Theres a on-going subreddit about this topic and a lot of people wanted an update about the groupbuy from the website and a lot of people are still worried about their orders and they (seem) that they want an update about it in the website.

Same thing here. Many people are wondering what its going since there have been no updates for months now. Could you please give a general statement?

thank you

@marc-fez
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marc-fez commented Aug 3, 2021

That's absolutely not my intention at all. About half the orders have already gone out, and a lot (hopefully the remainder of all outstanding orders) will be going out in the next week.

I know this has been a rough group buy to say the least. Several unforeseen delays and trying to do it all myself got the best of me on this one. I understand that everyone that's contributed to this project works hard for their money, and moving forward I intend to make a more pointed effort to respect the fact that you've spent your hard earned dollars at the store and also bring in some help with packing and sorting.

@coseyfannitutti much appreciated, thanks for the update. I know times are tough and stuff happens but if you could toss a note on the pre-order updates page once a month or so most of us would be cool with it. We get that long lead times and delays are part of this hobby. It's the total silence that is concerning.

@charles0917
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So another 3 weeks has passed, has anyone gotten any updates?

@bean-ders
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So another 3 weeks has passed, has anyone gotten any updates?

No, I sent an email 3 weeks ago as well after viewing this thread. If I could just get a response, I do not care if this takes another 6 months - as long as this comes in at some point and is still being tracked.

@tifandev
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With this radio silence is hard to believe everything is going ok. I have decided to do a credit card chargeback. This situation has shown everything but respect for the customer. I mean, We are discussing this on a GITHUB ISSUE, for gods sake.

@maxim-sm
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@coseyfannitutti I don't want to come off as rude but I really feel that I need to say this. I really don't understand why it is so hard to write a quick update on the main website. You wrote, "...and moving forward I intend to make a more pointed effort to respect the fact that you've spent your hard earned dollars at the store...", but you still refuse to update the website after several requests, although it will clearly show the respect you're talking about.

Please take a look at these two Reddit threads, here and here. Please read the confusion and frustration of the people who bought the kit that could've been avoided with a few short updates.
Moreover, on the page for the Discipline, you state that "Delays are possible, but you will be notified in a transparent manner if any such delays occur". No update since April is not, in any way, to be notified a transparent manner.

And I'm not even mentioning all the people that emailed you for support with the kit or help with lost packages, and didn't get any response for several months. Or the issues that are opened in this repository without an answer.

Again, I'm sorry if all of this sounds rude or aggressive, but this situation is really frustrating. At this point I just hope to receive the kit without any issues because I know I will wait another half an year for a reply.

@zanderc1
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zanderc1 commented Aug 20, 2021

@coseyfannitutti Hey man, trying to check in with you. Is everything okay and stuff? I don’t wanna come off rude but some haven’t received an update since 3 weeks ago when you said it was gonna ship the week after. And most people who does not know about this GitHub thread are starting to think that you ran off with the money. Any update will help your customers a lot, even if its a simple “Sorry about the very quiet 3 months as I was working hard to get these orders out..etc.” That would also help more younger customers who purchased this with a visa gift card from their hard earned cash, and the people who still have hope in you that you would send out all of the orders.

We REALLY don’t care how much you would take to get the orders out. Hey, it might take 10 months more. We just need updates about it so we know where our product is and if our hard earned cash isn’t getting stolen.

Really hope the you would read this, make and update and stuff. Or don’t. We can’t control you. But keep in mind, a lot of people are getting frustrated.

@langerhans
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langerhans commented Aug 26, 2021

I hate bumping thread on GitHub, but another week has passed here without an update. No replies to mails, no shipping notification, nothing on the website. The only reason why I didn't file a claim with my bank is because it's already past the time limit to do so. Please give an update... It takes literally less than 5 minutes to post a sign of life and maybe 5 more to give an honest timeline instead of "next week" and then radio silence for another month...

And in all honesty I don't even want or need the kit anymore. If a refund is easier, feel free. My order number is 02916.

@bean-ders
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I hate bumping thread on GitHub, but another week has passed here without an update. No replies to mails, no shipping notification, nothing on the website. The only reason why I didn't file a claim with my bank is because it's already past the time limit to do so. Please give an update... It takes literally less than 5 minutes to post a sign of life and maybe 5 more to give an honest timeline instead of "next week" and then radio silence for another month...

And in all honesty I don't even want or need the kit anymore. If a refund is easier, feel free. My order number is 02916.

I receive mine without any shipping notice/email response out of the blue.

I agree, radio silence is the worst way to deal with this. Being open and honest gets you far in the community. Most reasonable people will understand delays, especially with current supply shortages and shipping backups.

@d-daemon
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@coseyfannitutti Can you please provide an update on the website on your status? I've sent you multiple e-mails about updating my shipping address with no response. Would allowing us to cancel our orders and getting a refund help alleviate your own personal workload? Any update would be greatly appreciated as the community is quite upset over this GB. Any communications is better than no communication, thanks.

@hydrogen1-1
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I sent an inquiry every month, but I didn't get any answer, and I thought I was still acting when I saw a post on github at the end of July, but I'm very frustrated to see that no notice has been posted and that people around me haven't been shipping the goods. Please, just one word is okay, so write down the objective current situation and post it. You stated, "We inform you transparently about the delay." Keep what you said.
I'm very angry, but I don't think I've given up because nothing has changed.

@d-daemon
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I requested a refund via e-mail on Sep 25th and it was processed the next day for anyone else interested in a refund as most banks probably won't charge back due to how old the order is.

@zanderc1
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I requested a refund via e-mail on Sep 25th and it was processed the next day for anyone else interested in a refund as most banks probably won't charge back due to how old the order is.

I heard that he’s shipping orders that were ordered at the ~23 November of last year this month

@d-daemon
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I requested a refund via e-mail on Sep 25th and it was processed the next day for anyone else interested in a refund as most banks probably won't charge back due to how old the order is.

I heard that he’s shipping orders that were ordered at the ~23 November of last year this month

I ordered before November 23rd and I've seen some reddit threads where people who've randomly got their order with no tracking update or response to their address update who had order numbers way after mine, where they needed to fetch the package from their old address. I moved and Bryan didn't reply to any of my address update requests. I don't want to stress about the entire logistics process anymore and to be honest, I fell out of interest with the board due to the brand's (CFTKB) handling of the delays/communication.

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hmm that's interesting. I gotta agree that CFTKB’s handling is a bit wack but I still have hopes of recieving this board because I bought it through a visa gift card that I already turned into guitar picks after the purchase. I still have hopes of finally owning this board, although getting no updates whatsoever :D

@hydrogen1-1
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나는 9월 25일에 이메일을 통해 환불을 요청했고 환불에 관심이 있는 다른 사람을 위해 다음날 처리되었습니다. 대부분의 은행은 주문이 오래되어 환불을 청구하지 않을 것입니다.

작년 11월~23일에 주문한 주문건을 이번달에 발송한다고 들었습니다

May I know where you got the information?

@zanderc1
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나는 9월 25일에 이메일을 통해 환불을 요청했고 환불에 관심이 있는 다른 사람을 위해 다음날 처리되었습니다. 대부분의 은행은 주문이 오래되어 환불을 청구하지 않을 것입니다.

작년 11월~23일에 주문한 주문건을 이번달에 발송한다고 들었습니다

May I know where you got the information?

I’ve been following this thread for months https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/m3mldw/cftkb_discipline_v2/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf and what I’ve found is that other people have recieved their orders/ got their shipping confirmation

@hydrogen1-1
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I placed the order on November 17th, but why is the person who ordered on November 20th receiving a delivery notification, and why am I still pending?
I'm about to lose my mind.

@zanderc1
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I placed the order on November 17th, but why is the person who ordered on November 20th receiving a delivery notification, and why am I still pending?
I'm about to lose my mind.

I don’t know, im not sure.

@curdl
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curdl commented Oct 4, 2021

Came here from the reddit threads unfortunately as my #02930 order still hasn’t arrived. Sending emails hasn’t worked so I guess I’ll try GitHub 😞

@hydrogen1-1
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Came here from the reddit threads unfortunately as my #2930 order still hasn’t arrived. Sending emails hasn’t worked so I guess I’ll try GitHub 😞

My status is still pending. My order number is #2906. I'm so angry

@palomatanis
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I placed my order #02865 on November 17th as well. My emails have not been answered, there is absolutely no information.
@coseyfannitutti could you please make an update?

@lhoste
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lhoste commented Oct 31, 2021

Order #02971, placed on November 17, 2020 at 12:06 PM ET. I am located in France, and have yet to receive any update whatsoever about this groupbuy. If anyone in France has received one, let me know.

@EuthaNasi
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Order #2971, placed on November 17, 2020 at 12:06 PM ET. I am located in France, and have yet to receive any update whatsoever about this groupbuy. If anyone in France has received one, let me know.

Order #02840, also placed on the 17th of November and located in The Netherlands. No shipping update received. Only communication was about my adress change on which they responded after a month or so. Still waiting on 2 kits

@SimRicard
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I'm in the UK and I emailed asking if Bryan would ship to a US-based parcel forwarding service and he responded and has refunded me the difference in shipping. I have a tracking number now but it has yet to actually ship out. Just an idea for international people who still don't have their boards.

@sunnyhwang
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From NZ, order low 3000, haven't heard anything, sent him an email for shipping address update and haven't received any reply at all. Gonna issue a refund

@kkurtson
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Guys it's time to move on. It's almost 100% at this point that he just robbed your 100ish dollars and ran. Pretty sure he was delibrately not replying to messages because the logo of his website changed late last year, so someone is still maintaining it. "Difficult time" my as* 🤣

yup time to write it off as an experience and move on

@zanderc1
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🤣
Im the lucky few that actually got their order and honestly it was just out of nowhere that I got my kit. I honestly would’ve thought that he has at lease shipped all of the kits by now- we did order them 2 years ago. I just hate how silent cosey has been through this whole ordeal and just not providing needed updates of the groupbuy

Then again its been 2 years since this groupbuy opened and the mk community has died down a slight bit so at this point im not surprised if people gave up on the gb

Well that was an expensive lesson for some of us, a $100 lesson for sure 💀

@goobzilla
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He hasn't responded to any of my numerous emails over the past year.

My favourite part was where he said "...a lot (hopefully the remainder of all outstanding orders) will be going out in the next week". That was well over a year ago now lol.

All he needed to do was post a short update about once every two months and he would have kept everyone on his side.

Still pushing for a refund

@ZebastianBjorkqvist
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If anyone is still following this issue and hasn't received thier keyboard.
Yesterday I got a "back in stock" email for mysterium V2. So, it seems he's back in action and selling stuff. But atleast I'm still missing my discipline V2 kit.

@kkurtson
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kkurtson commented Nov 9, 2022

i also received the email. it would be nice to know if boards are effectively sold again. Still waiting for my discipline v2

@lhoste
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lhoste commented Nov 9, 2022

If anyone is still following this issue and hasn't received thier keyboard. Yesterday I got a "back in stock" email for mysterium V2. So, it seems he's back in action and selling stuff. But atleast I'm still missing my discipline V2 kit.

Incredible news if he commit to it. Most of us in this thread are waiting for some form of communication.

@kkurtson
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kkurtson commented Nov 9, 2022

maybe one can write a warning in the mysterium github?

@SimRicard
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I'm keeping an eye out for any posts advertising the sale on the mechanical keyboards or mechmarket subreddit, definitely not going to let this pass by without comment.

@knorr3
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knorr3 commented Nov 9, 2022

It's sold out again on the website.

@itisibecky
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Anyone else still not received their order? I've sent an absurd amount of emails at this point, receive no response, no order, nothing.

@itisibecky
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@coseyfannitutti Any update? It's been three years... at this point just refund me!!

@goobzilla
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Anyone else still not received their order? I've sent an absurd amount of emails at this point, receive no response, no order, nothing.

Nope, never recieved my order or any response to any of the emails I have sent. I have sent 17 emails at this point from May 2021 to date.

All I want is a refund....

@coseyfannitutti cmon dude.

@j-dabrowski
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I also never received my board or any responses to email queries
Does anyone know what legal action is possible from Australia?

@chriswade
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I also never received my board or any responses to email queries Does anyone know what legal action is possible from Australia?

I'm not sure, I did have a look into state law in Florida to see if there was anything we can do to get out funds back, however found nothing. If anyone here lives in Florida, let me know.

@chriswade
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Anyone else still not received their order? I've sent an absurd amount of emails at this point, receive no response, no order, nothing.

Nope, never recieved my order or any response to any of the emails I have sent. I have sent 17 emails at this point from May 2021 to date.

All I want is a refund....

@coseyfannitutti cmon dude.

At this stage, I would take an acknowledgement of the situation. @coseyfannitutti

@lhoste
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lhoste commented May 14, 2023

Just saw this :

The cftkb.com website has expired.

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I guess all we can do is to take the L at this point.

@knorr3
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knorr3 commented May 18, 2023

Just saw this :

The cftkb.com website has expired.

I guess all we can do is to take the L at this point.

It's back up again.

@tifandev
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tifandev commented May 18, 2023 via email

@jossh-h
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jossh-h commented Jun 3, 2023

I also never received my board or any responses to email queries
Does anyone know what legal action is possible from Australia?

Also in Australia and have no order or response to my emails, can't even get a refund

@NiciTheNici
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@tifandev

This dude is f****n evil. I assure he is reading this comment chain and he
saw the website was down because of us. Take responsibility a**hole.

Nahh, thats crossing the line. Coseyfannitutti has been nothing but excellent when it comes to this project and that's the hill I'm willing to die on.

He definitely fumbled the group buy and the only thing I blame em for is the lack of communication. Group buys are bloody hard and so much pressure especially for a single individual. And you calling them evil over a bloody keyboard is ridiculous man.

Judging by how coseyfannitutti hasnt been active in almost an entire year, not just in this thread, but also with PRs, Issues and anything else this leads me to believe that theres something else going on, especially considering how ready they were to help when I started this build.

To my knowledge there hasnt been another group buy since yours unlike someone mentioned above, thats BS.

I sincerely hope that coseyfannitutti is doing fine and eventually sorts this out. You deserve your keyboard or your money back. This nastyness does not help so please cut it out.

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This dude is f****n evil. I assure he is reading this comment chain and he
saw the website was down because of us. Take responsibility a**hole.

Nahh, thats crossing the line. Coseyfannitutti has been nothing but excellent when it comes to this project and that's the hill I'm willing to die on.

He definitely fumbled the group buy and the only thing I blame em for is the lack of communication. Group buys are bloody hard and so much pressure especially for a single individual. And you calling them evil over a bloody keyboard is ridiculous man.

Judging by how coseyfannitutti hasnt been active in almost an entire year, not just in this thread, but also with PRs, Issues and anything else this leads me to believe that theres something else going on, especially considering how ready they were to help when I started this build.

To my knowledge there hasnt been another group buy since yours unlike someone mentioned above, thats BS.

I sincerely hope that coseyfannitutti is doing fine and eventually sorts this out. You deserve your keyboard or your money back. This nastyness does not help so please cut it out.

I can't believe we are still discussing this. I have written off the 90 USD as a loss. The fact is that the seller has consistently ignored all customers, which is unacceptable. Speculating briefly, we are probably talking about a sum of over 20,000 USD that is outstanding, which is no small thing. From my point of view, the community is right to make sure that the seller cannot repeat this.

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itisibecky commented Jul 11, 2023 via email

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bders commented Jul 11, 2023

@tifandev

This dude is f****n evil. I assure he is reading this comment chain and he
saw the website was down because of us. Take responsibility a**hole.

Nahh, thats crossing the line. Coseyfannitutti has been nothing but excellent when it comes to this project and that's the hill I'm willing to die on.

He definitely fumbled the group buy and the only thing I blame em for is the lack of communication. Group buys are bloody hard and so much pressure especially for a single individual. And you calling them evil over a bloody keyboard is ridiculous man.

Judging by how coseyfannitutti hasnt been active in almost an entire year, not just in this thread, but also with PRs, Issues and anything else this leads me to believe that theres something else going on, especially considering how ready they were to help when I started this build.

To my knowledge there hasnt been another group buy since yours unlike someone mentioned above, thats BS.

I sincerely hope that coseyfannitutti is doing fine and eventually sorts this out. You deserve your keyboard or your money back. This nastyness does not help so please cut it out.

Lmao are you kidding? The dude ran off with the money and provided no updates yet is clearly still around.

You are delusional. Imagine saying this after reading this thread.

@NiciTheNici
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yet is clearly still around
What? Id love to know where because it sure aint on this repo

Also complete sidenote. If any one of you still want a discipline I cannot recommend https://42keebs.eu enough. Its also run by one dude, but unlike cosey he has excellent weekly communication concerning orders in his store.

Call me an optimist, but I do not think cosey is the type of person to just steal your money. I will continue to believe that you'll eventually get your boards.

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bders commented Jul 12, 2023

yet is clearly still around
What? Id love to know where because it sure aint on this repo

Also complete sidenote. If any one of you still want a discipline I cannot recommend https://42keebs.eu enough. Its also run by one dude, but unlike cosey he has excellent weekly communication concerning orders in his store.

Call me an optimist, but I do not think cosey is the type of person to just steal your money. I will continue to believe that you'll eventually get your boards.

He maintains his website and attempted to run another group but after this iirc (interest check only)

@NiciTheNici
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Thats rough if true. I cant find anything on their reddit account though. So if it happened it mustve been on the website... And I cant seem to find any archived versions of that either.

@SimRicard
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I saw it pop up at the time and there was some discussion on here about warning people off. This appeared on reddit a little while after.

@j-dabrowski
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j-dabrowski commented Mar 11, 2024 via email

@itisibecky
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itisibecky commented Mar 11, 2024 via email

@kkurtson
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Anyone progressed with getting their discipline v2 or getting their money back?

On Wed, 12 Jul 2023 at 6:23 pm, SimRicard @.> wrote: I saw it pop up at the time and there was some discussion on here about warning people off. This appeared on reddit a little while after. https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/yyrgrc/managed_to_get_a_cftkb_mysterium_kit/ — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#57 (comment)>, or unsubscribe https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AOZFW5S6MUUIV24YWPS5RMTXPZ3K7ANCNFSM5ARHNJFA . You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: @.>

Nope, its dead

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