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dRICH: sensor material should not be AirOptical #18

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c-dilks opened this issue Jul 27, 2022 · 1 comment · May be fixed by #106
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dRICH: sensor material should not be AirOptical #18

c-dilks opened this issue Jul 27, 2022 · 1 comment · May be fixed by #106
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c-dilks commented Jul 27, 2022

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This was temporary and needs to be updated

  • moreover, I had to add reflectivity properties to the dRICH sensor surface from the ATHENA master branch, in order to see hits; not sure if this is correct (since we did not have this in the ATHENA proposal production)

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  • check the photon count, to make sure we get the expected numbers
  • check the sensor geometry and segmentation
  • surface paramaterization (esp. reflectivity)
  • sensor bases (how to model the back of the sensors?) - make sure there is enough space for this

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Notes from ATHENA studies (from discussions with Alexander, Chandra, and Chris):

  • sensor used for proposal: https://www.hamamatsu.com/us/en/product/optical-sensors/mppc/mppc_mppc-array/S13361-3050AE-08.html

  • the non-negligible gas-to-resin (numerically
    <5%) and resin-to-silicon (~15%) reflections must be effectively
    accounted in the quoted PDEs. At all incident angles of interest
    for us (up to 30 degree or so) there numbers get shared between
    the polarization states, but average stays more or less the same.

  • However in our case (g4dRIChOptics.hh) the sensor surface was defined as dielectric_metal with
    some bogus imaginary refractive index parameters. This killed the
    photons, and also I verified that the MC .root files contain only
    the ones which were detected somewhere. So I temporarily changed the material to AirOptical, and added
    a benign surface to the optical_metarials.xml database, and we are
    back at ~10 npe. And "Chandra's number" for 350..650nm integral is
    now ~72 or so.

  • I think the correct way to account Cherenkov photon polarization is
    to create a resin volume, and perhaps even a silicon volume inside it,
    but renormalize the PDE, accounting for the normal incident losses.

  • look into G4SiPM package

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c-dilks pushed a commit that referenced this issue Sep 8, 2022
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Resolve "dRICH: increase z-length, and add space for services"

Closes #18

See merge request EIC/detectors/ecce!33
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c-dilks commented Oct 2, 2023

@chchatte92, We might be able to resolve this finally after AIDASoft/DD4hep#1174

And if so, the RICH example in DD4hep examples (actually a sort of unit test) should also be updated.

Cc. @wdconinc

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