Bold is too unclear for unread messages. #5953
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Maybe show an unread counter on rooms as per #3374? 😇 |
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I was thinking we could do a small circle to the top-right of the room avatars, although it would end up conflicting with badges a little bit. |
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i think @Matrixcoffee's suggestion of revisiting #3374 is a good one; it's a bit weird that there isn't a way to be told how many unread messages are in a room (only unread notifications). A better solution might be:
@lampholder wdyt? Every time we've changed the badge settings it's been a huge can of worms, but i'm not sure that the suggestion here is bad (although we'd end up with a lot more badges flying around the place, and so look busier) |
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oh - the problem here, thinking about it, is that maintaining unread badge counts is surprisingly resource intensive on the server, and doing it for every room (whether notifs are turned on or not) might be completely nightmarish for synapse. On the otherhand, it might simplify the logic and make it easier to maintain (given we're just tracking unread messages rather than unread notifications). @dbkr, any idea? |
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Yep, indeed this needs server support because the only way the client would be able to know is by paginating all the way back to its last read marker which could be a long way. I suspect it's not fundamentally difficult and probably not that resource intensive - most of the pushrules stuff is running the push rules themselves, ie. the fact that everyone could have different rules. I suspect the hardest part about this would be incrementing a counter for everyone in the room (or rather, saving that back to the db in a way that's fast and safe). One gotcha is that not all clients are necessarily able to render the same types of messages, ie. in Riot we avoid bolding the room for message we don't display, but the server doesn't know which messages we're not going to display. This could be another thing solved by all renderable events sharing a 'body' field. ;) That said, you could also increase the number of messages we get per room in an initial /sync to, say, 11 (I think we currently only sync 2?). This would let you display a correct count most of the time except when you first logged in / cleared cache, at which point if it was more than 10, you'd display '10+' or something. This would obviously increase login time though. |
Except riot also doesn't bold on hidden events (hide parts joins whatever) |
Setting up a new device takes long enough as is :( |
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Do the unread counts need to be exact? Could we get reasonable results by looking at the message depth field? |
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I think if it said 7 unread messages and I open it to find 2 because of hiddenPartsJoins/whatever I'll be wondering what the hell happened |
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Right, 7 for 2 is clearly not a reasonable approximation. So get low counts directly from the sync, possibly with some kind of server-assisted middle ground to deal with the 2-10 event gap. For higher counts, you'd probably be able to get away with a ballpark figure from the message depth. |
…ations This is a potential solution to https://github.com/vector-im/riot-web/issues/3374 and element-hq/element-web#5953 as raised by Mozilla at element-hq/element-web#10868. This lets you define a push rule action which increases the badge count (unread notification) count on a given room, but doesn't actually send a push for that notification via email or HTTP. We might want to define this as the default behaviour for group chats in future to solve https://github.com/vector-im/riot-web/issues/3268 at last. This is implemented as a string action rather than a tweak because: * Other pushers don't care about the tweak, given they won't ever get pushed * The DB can store the tweak more efficiently using the existing `notify` table. * It avoids breaking the default_notif/highlight_action optimisations. Clients which generate their own notifs (e.g. desktop notifs from Riot/Web would need to be aware of the new push action) to uphold it. An alternative way to do this would be to maintain a `msg_count` alongside `highlight_count` and `notification_count` in `unread_notifications` in sync responses. However, doing this by counting the rows in `events` since the `stream_position` of the user's last read receipt turns out to be painfully slow (~200ms), perhaps due to the size of the events table. So instead, we use the highly optimised existing event_push_actions (and event_push_actions_staging) table to maintain the counts - using the code paths which already exist for tracking unread notification counts efficiently. These queries are typically ~3ms or so. The biggest issues I see here are: * We're slightly repurposing the `notif` field on `event_push_actions` to track whether a given action actually sent a `push` or not. This doesn't seem unreasonable, but it's slightly naughty given that previously the field explicitly tracked whether `notify` was true for the action (and as a result, it was uselessly always set to 1 in the DB). * We're going to put more load on the `event_push_actions` table for all the random group chats which people had previously muted. In practice i don't think there are many of these though. * There isn't an MSC for this yet (although this comment could become one).
requires matrix-org/synapse#6061 potential solution to https://github.com/vector-im/riot-web/issues/3374 and element-hq/element-web#5953 and element-hq/element-web#10868
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Closing given age. Feel free to reopen (with screenshots) if still an issue. |
Long-standing problem, particularly on the dark or Status themes, is that using 'bold' to indicate unread is way too cryptic and hard to spot.
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