GTX 1060 6GB - max. Mhs 20.66

[highree]

Hi,

is it just the real limit of the card? Whatever i do under windows 10 with and without updates i get max 20.66Mhs. Any thoughts?

[blinkin69]

u use the latest version?
https://github.com/ethereum-mining/ethminer/releases/tag/v0.11.0

you should get 26-28 with -cuda-parallel-hash command line option.

[highree]

yes! Latest. I waited for it. But i think its some driver - OC related stuff. I thought mabe someone has same behavior. The thing is whatever i overclock which settings which drivers no more than 20.66. Even i use different vendors: Gigabyte, EVGA, Palit, Gainward. for all the same. Im gonna give debian a try.

i also tried --cuda-parallel-hash 1 2 4 6 8

the best is default 4

[blinkin69]

ok, i dont know for windows, but try --list-devices List and check if it is cuda or opengl, you use -U also right? i had similiar issues because i was on opengl driver and not with cuda.

[highree]

--list-devices reports me cl and cuda devices. yes i am using the -U option. ethminer reports cuda mining tough. Which linux distri do you use? Ive read that ubuntu 16.04 should be the best, can you confirm this?

[jimmykl]

How much are you overclocking them? I think 1060s need a decent memory overclock to get to mid-20s with Ethminer. Also check the RAM on the cards with GPU-Z – Samsung is the best, Micron is ok, Hynix not so good.

[highree]

I am clocking Memory +800 and GPU +100 (at the moment 0 - cuz it makes no difference). Powerlimit is 65% (also here it makes no difference if i push it up to 110%). Alltogether it uses 90w each.
Memory is Samsung.

Thank you

[jimmykl]

I'd try upping the power limit. 65% is aggressively low and may be forcing the cards to throttle down. Do some testing working down from 100% and you should find a point where the performance drops off – then keep them just above that.

[highree]

yeah, i tried that allready. The last 4 days to be exactly. my last hope was the release today.

[jimmykl]

i guess you've probably already tried the windows creator's update and the latest nvidia drivers?

[highree]

huh? windows creator's update is not released yet, isnt it ?

[jimmykl]

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2017/04/11/how-to-get-the-windows-10-creators-update/

[highree]

started the download. Keep you informed about what happens... thx for now

[highree]

so ive tested with creators update, same results. Parallel i installed ubuntu and clocked the card with coolbits 31: GPU +100, MEM: +800 - no power limit: 19,80-20,24Mhs MAX.

Any thoughts?

(trying debian now instead of ubunto 16.04)

[Felix4567]

Same problem here, I have 6x MSI GTX 1060 Gaming X+ 6GB and I get 121-125 Mhs for the rig :( overclocked with MSI afterburner +800 mem. The cards have all Samsung memory.

[highree]

@Felix4567 what os do you use ?

[Felix4567]

@highree Also Windows 10, latest updates.

[highree]

seems that you also hit the 20mhs limit (if there is one)

[blinkin69]

and with only one card the same? find out which RAM you have on cards. seems to be hardware limitation. try also one card on an other computer if possible...

pls have a look at #18

[derubm]

i am using +950 memory, +250 gpu, as nvidia tries to clock down the gpu on higher memory, at least with my 1060 mini 6gb, getting constantly ~24mh / second, it results in the end at following speeds/limits:
power limit 62% fan speed ~70 % (manual fan curve) GPU: ~1600 mhz, Memory: 9500 ( Samsung ddr5 ) miner is the latest version , measured wattage for one card is about 70 watts.

edit: OS is WIndows 10 , make sure you have samsung memory, tune memory in 50 + steps, watch miner.
also it could be that i am only lucky on the ram charge zotac used with my card. +950 seems pretty much the upper limit.

[highree]

i would be happy with 24mhs - could't figure out yet. What os do you use ?

[JayChickenK]

win 10 has a problem with p0 states on nvidia cards.

1. Close your mining program.
2. Download https://ufile.io/gi122
3. extract it
4. execute the nvidiasetp0state.exe
5. start your miner again

on my win 10 gtx 970, from 16 --> 19 mh/s
PS: no virus it is the nvidiasetp0state.exe from nicehash miner, but without the miner.
if u dont trust me (can understand that) download nicehash miner and in the folder execute the nvidiasetp0state.exe

[ghost]

Is the activation of p0 state maybe only something for GTX 900 series
and not needed on the 1000 series cards?

[highree]

i would not recommend to use such software. i think its kinda riskware!

[ghost]

@chfast Can we add support to go into p0 state into the miner itself if it helps for specific cards?
(I did not test it)

I also don't trust any random file and hope every user here knows that any downloaded file from any github user could also contain a virus / ransomware. :-)

[jimmykl]

The original source of that exe is Nicehash.

If you want to be sure you're running a valid version download their latest build https://github.com/nicehash/NiceHashMiner/releases unzip and nvidiasetp0state.exe is in there.

Instead of running that exe you can set it to be on/off using nvidiaProfileInspector. You're looking to turn off 'CUDA - force P2 state' in Section 5. I got this from nicehash/NiceHashMiner#1000

@JHGitty you're right it doesn't work on 1000 series cards. It did give my 970 a little boost.

[ghost]

Ok - so what's about integration of this performance boost on our miner here? :-)
Of course only on "supported cards" (as I understand the whole GTX 900 series)

[jimmykl]

I think it's best to leave this at the profile level rather than trying to manipulate it from within the miner at this stage. Eventually maybe but personally I'd prefer to see dev time spent on better error handling or monitoring etc. before a slight boost for 900 cards which can already be achieved with some manual configuration :-)

[ghost]

You are fully right! 👍

[chfast]

Personally, I don't have an idea how to do it from code. Is this supported by CUDA API? If yes, I'm for adding another command line option to go into specified P-state.

[ozdemiryucel]

New gtx1060s have this problem, so 9 Gbps editions. I don't know why, I research it but I could not find its reason yet. I have asus gtx1060 9gbps edition. I realise that when old gtx1060s work in mining, they have %100 Memory Controller Load in GPU-Z, but new gtx1060s have maximum %91 Memory Controller Load. I think this is a clue.
http://cryptomining-blog.com/tag/gtx-1060-9gbps-hashrate/

[bmatthewshea]

or micron.

[whotheff]

It is not the memory chip itself, it's the memory controller, which is controlled by the VGA Bios. On AMD cards they flash the BIOS with fixed timings, Nvidia can probably be flashed too, but it requres special programming equipment as the bios is locked for the end user.

Hynix's MCU limits the card to 90-95% as if it tries to protect it or it does not detect it as 3D load, although I set gaming profile in the drivers.

[imjunez]

@whotheff
Some people have tried flashing the bios of the NV with hynix chip using bios from other GPU but the MCL problem still there. (I think somewhere in this thread someone did it)

And for AMD, I have several identical RXs with hynix chip. All of them are having the same exact bios settings, but one of them is having the 84% MCL problem. All others are hashing normal with 100% MCL but only one is maxed out at 84%.

[Bradobradi]

I am new in mining, but learn a lot about this....
running clymore on nanopool
my GPU is gainward GTX1060 6GB with :( hynix memory and produce 15.5MH/s ETH on stock.. OC is 17.9MH/s max... I try a lot of combinations and it's best I can produce
pow - 70% - same 70% or 110% - but consume more w about 170w
GPU clock - -400 - same -400 or +400 - but consume more w about 170w
Memory - max +310 (4110) - stabile - everything over that crash GPU
with all component use 150w from wall

when I come back to home I will post screanshot...
sorry for may bad english, if something not clear what i mean, just ask about that

[bmatthewshea]

@Bradobradi This is ethminer issues not claymore - first try 'ethminer' in releases and report back if still problems. Also try setting your power around 65%

[imjunez]

@Bradobradi
So you OC your memory to +310 but you only get 4110. Looks like your card is still running in P2 state. Scroll up and you'll find a way to change it to P0 state. That way your card will run 4310 and your hashrate should be around 19 by then.

[Bradobradi]

when I try this "nvidia-smi -q -d PERFORMANCE" don't goth supported clocks (not active)

[whotheff]

the Nvidia-smi options which can improve speed do not work on 1060. Tested it several ways.

However after a lot of testing, I found that best settings (regardless of logics) is
Core: -200Mhz (not -400!)
Mem: max stable Mem clock
TDP: 65%.
That way Hynixes ,managed to pull an extra MH and from 18-19 it went to 20.xx
Also, power usage is lowered to arround 70W/card
Still, if someone can unlock MCL = 100%, that would be great!

[Bradobradi]

The problem was in win7... I install win10 and got 20.7 max.... When try open like mozzila or something all crash...

[Ganga05]

running clymore on nanopool
my GPU is asus GTX1060 6GB
Power- 70%
Core clock - 110Mhz
Memory clock - 662Mhz

3 card 2324 hashrate oc
3 card 1920 hashrate oc
Can tell about 3 GPU problem

[Ganga05]

running clymore on nanopool
my GPU is asus GTX1060 6GB
Power- 70%
Core clock - 110Mhz
Memory clock - 662Mhz

3 card 23-24 MH/s oc
3 card 19-20 MH/s oc
Can tell about 3 GPU problem

[imjunez]

@Ganga05 those 3 cards are with Hynix memory. That's the problem that we're all here been trying to solve with no success. Unless maybe someone figured out a way to mod bios the way Radeons do.

[DeadManWalkingTO]

GTX1060 +150/+500/65%TDP @ 23-24MHs

1. Try Update Drivers.
   Download and install the latests.

2. Try Update Ethminer.
   Download (or beter build) the latest.

3. Try use -U for CUDA devices.
   CUDA Hardware Test Launch Command:
   ethminer -RH -U -S eu1.ethermine.org:4444 -FS us1.ethermine.org:4444 -O 0x7013275311fc37ccc1e40193D75086293eCb43A4.issue119

4. Try to change P2 State and Power managment mode.
   You can use NVidiaProfileInspectorDmW.
   For the best mining hashrate choose from sector "5 - Common":

   • CUDA - Force P2 State (Set to "Off")
   • Power managment mode (Set to "Prefer maximum performance")

5. Try Tweak Win10.
   You can use Windows10MiningTweaksDmW (Solution for 100% CPU usage (Win10 - CUDA - OpenCL) #695).

6. Try Optimize/Overclock GPUs.
   You can use MSI Afterburner for GPU OverClock/Optimize.

7. Try use a WatchDog
   You can use ETHminerWatchDogDmW (Simple Script WatchDog #735).

Please feedback.
Thank you!

[imjunez]

@DeadManWalkingTO
I think those procedures don't work on hynix memory. No matter what you do MCL under default clock and above was set to 90% by BIOS. It can be 100% if you downclock memory to -500 if I remember it correctly. So if you run the GPU on 3500 MHz memory clock, MCL will be 100%. This behavior is almost the same as Radeon RX series do. They got loose timing at higher clock. So unless we can get access to change the timing strap I think we just have to deal with it.

[jausling]

I sold all my 1060s and moved entirely to 1070s. Haven't looked back. However this was before the prices of 1070s went through the roof, I don't think it's worth it now

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On 28 Feb. 2018 10:10 am, "DeadManWalking" ***@***.***> wrote: GTX1060 +150/+500/65%TDP @ 23-24MHs 1. Try Update Drivers. Download and install the latests. 2. Try Update Ethminer. Download (or beter build) the latest. 3. Try use -U for CUDA devices. CUDA Hardware Test Launch Command: ethminer -RH -U -S eu1.ethermine.org:4444 -FS us1.ethermine.org:4444 -O 0x7013275311fc37ccc1e40193D75086293eCb43A4.issue119 4. Try to change P2 State and Power managment mode. You can use NVidiaProfileInspectorDmW <https://github.com/DeadManWalkingTO/NVidiaProfileInspectorDmW>. For the best mining hashrate choose from sector "5 - Common": - CUDA - Force P2 State (Set to "Off") - Power managment mode (Set to "Prefer maximum performance") 5. Try Tweak Win10. You can use Windows10MiningTweaksDmW <https://github.com/DeadManWalkingTO/Windows10MiningTweaksDmW> (#695 <#695>). 6. Try Optimize/Overclock GPUs. You can use MSI Afterburner <https://www.msi.com/page/afterburner> for GPU OverClock/Optimize. 7. Try use a WatchDog You can use ETHminerWatchDogDmW <https://github.com/DeadManWalkingTO/ETHminerWatchDogDmW> (#735 <#735>). Please feedback. Thank you! — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#119 (comment)>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AfDIEkh0Ig1vLAu5jh7TJknQJ1eLOONQks5tZItNgaJpZM4OOdGz> .

[eeerrrttty]

any solution for linux? does this solution works on windows?

[bmatthewshea]

@eeerrrttty Use nvidia-smi or nvidia-settings (if you run a desktop)
You have to explore/expand this thread or google it - there have been posts. Such as:
#119 (comment)

[eeerrrttty]

@bmatthewshe, i already use nvidia-smi and nvidia-settings for overclock, lol, but the question is, HOW I CAN USE THESE THINGS TO CONFIGURE HYNIX? i makes 18mh/s WITH OVERCLOCK....

[eeerrrttty]

running the #119 just give me 15,5Mh/s.... lol

[bmatthewshea]

@eeerrrttty - Yeah, just pointing out this thread isn't expanded by default. Lot's of answers hidden unless you expand.
And yeah - I am not sure what you can do.
I would consult google for other forum posts like:
https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/1011804/nvidia-smi-not-fully-supported-on-gtx-1060/
The SMI Linux tool and 'settings' GUI always seems to have issues. Depending on card, support is hit & miss on power and OC. Not sure why. I think NV must build a working windows version and Linux version becomes an afterthought.. who knows..

[dhjw]

My latest two EVGA GTX 1060 6GB Gaming cards are super slow (GPU 1 and 4 in image below). Both cranked to about +1500 to get the most out of them. Must be the memory. Damn.

I thought about changing the BIOS with another card but meh it's probably futile as mentioned earlier in this thread. Never had a problem going higher with 15 other cards so I'm pretty confident I'm doing things correctly. I'm considering trying the Superclocked model or a 1070 next time..

[AndreaLanfranchi]

@dhjw

could you please report the output of

nvidia-smi dmon -o T -d 2 -s pucmt

[dhjw]

@AndreaLanfranchi Interesting.. mem % seems stuck at 92-96%

#Time        gpu   pwr  temp    sm   mem   enc   dec  mclk  pclk    fb  bar1 rxpci txpci
#HH:MM:SS    Idx     W     C     %     %     %     %   MHz   MHz    MB    MB  MB/s  MB/s
 07:43:56      0    76    61   100   100     0     0  4463  1430  2667     5    24     7
 07:43:56      1    76    62   100    95     0     0  4579  1177  2667     5    22     5
 07:43:56      2    77    57   100   100     0     0  4268  1506  2667     5    27     6
 07:43:56      3    76    51   100   100     0     0  4666  1341  2667     5    20     5
 07:43:56      4    76    66   100    95     0     0  4551  1164  2667     5    14     6
 07:43:56      5    75    54   100   100     0     0  4727  1354  2667     5    14     4
 07:43:56      6    77    51   100   100     0     0  4714  1215  2667     5    15     4
 07:43:56      7    75    59   100   100     0     0  4417  1404  2667     5    15     4

#Time        gpu   pwr  temp    sm   mem   enc   dec  mclk  pclk    fb  bar1 rxpci txpci
#HH:MM:SS    Idx     W     C     %     %     %     %   MHz   MHz    MB    MB  MB/s  MB/s
 07:43:59      0    77    61   100   100     0     0  4463  1442  2667     5    24     6
 07:43:59      1    77    62   100    93     0     0  4579  1164  2667     5    18     5
 07:43:59      2    76    57   100   100     0     0  4268  1480  2667     5    23     5
 07:43:59      3    76    51   100   100     0     0  4666  1341  2667     5    20     5
 07:43:59      4    76    67   100    92     0     0  4551  1139  2667     5    14     4
 07:43:59      5    77    54   100   100     0     0  4727  1379  2667     5    14     4
 07:43:59      6    77    51   100   100     0     0  4714  1278  2667     5    15     5
 07:43:59      7    77    60   100   100     0     0  4417  1430  2667     5    19     4

[AndreaLanfranchi]

Yep ... those GPU might have some hw problem.

[whotheff]

This is the memory controller load. With Hynix memory on your card, GPU load never reaches 100% when mining, only when gaming. So i bet those cards with 92-95% have Hynix memory chips. You can check it easily with GPU-Z.

[dhjw]

@whotheff I run Ubuntu Server on my rigs and haven't found a method to identify the brand of RAM with Linux. Let me know if you know one.

[whotheff]

No such option according to Nvidia (for now). However there are three ways I can think of:

1. Install windows on a seperate drive, boot it up, install Nvidia driver and run GPU-z. Then revert back to linux.
2. Install virtual machine and install Windows in it with a VGA driver and run GPU-z (never tested it, don't know if it works).
3. Remove your GPU cooling and see what the brand printed on the mem chips is.