PV Opt discharging battery where it will cause expensive import

[jacekowski]

Describe the bug
I'm running slightly modified version (i have added sunsynk inverter support - but i doubt this causing the issue).

To Reproduce
Run addon with my configuration (consumption history disabled, 35kWh/day) - everything is visible in the logs anyway.

Expected behavior
No discharge on day like today. Or tomorrow/

Screenshots

As you can see, the plan it generates is to discharge (at 15p/kWh) and then it would cause me to import at higher rate (and that is ignoring any efficiency losses). Similiar thing tomorrow.

pv_opt.txt

[fboundy]

Are you sure you would be importing at a higher rate? Agile prices are pretty low today and tomorrow. It's basically saying buy overnight at <10p and sell at 15p which is what's driving logic.

One possible issue is that there is "value" in having a final SOC of 30% vs 10% which it is ignoring because it knows nothing about Saturday yet. At 11:00 tomorrow when it get's the day-ahead forecast it will update and may not discharge as much. You can always turn off discharging or (in 3.14) give zero value to exporting.

[fboundy]

PS - are you able to share your sunsynk mods?

[jacekowski]

It does need some cleanup and my implementation relies on node-red to do final control, but it is here jacekowski@de90248

Because sunsynk inverter does not have charge/discharge time slots like other inverters, but instead just has a schedule, i'm using node red to check which slot is the current one, and adjusting settings for that slot at the right time.

[fboundy]

It does need some cleanup and my implementation relies on node-red to do final control, but it is here jacekowski@de90248

Because sunsynk inverter does not have charge/discharge time slots like other inverters, but instead just has a schedule, i'm using node red to check which slot is the current one, and adjusting settings for that slot at the right time.

Thanks - I'm afraid Node Red is a mystery to me so I will leave you to it!. I am adding support via the Solarsynk Add-on: #129

[jacekowski]

Unfortunately, solarsynk relies on sunsynk cloud that doesn't work very frequently so i don't consider it a viable option. I've done parts of it node red because i was developing my own solution in node red and then i've found this addon.

I'm going to migrate the whole thing to python in near future and then do a PR.

[fboundy]

I presume you have a hard-wired connection then?

[jacekowski]

Yes, I'm allergic to cloud, especially if it is not a reliable one.

[fboundy]

Same here. At some point I will add cloud support for Solis inverters but controlling via the cloud is barely supported

[jacekowski]

What is the intention of this line

pv_opt/apps/pv_opt/pv_opt.py

Line 1545 in 483bee3

start = None

rather than using self.charge_start_datetime further down?

[fboundy]

A quick answer without properly digging: If the inverter is already active and we want it to stay active we don’t need to set the start time. In general I am trying to minimise the number of writes to the inverter unless strictly needed. On the Solis the inverter registers are allegedly EEPROMs with a limited number of total writes.

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[jacekowski]

I'm on 3.14.0, and plan for today/tomorrow is definitely not optimal. Charging started today at 5:30 at 0p/kWh, rather than waiting for later in the day to charge at negative rates.

Current schedule discharges the battery until 18:30, which will then cause import from the grid at 20p/kWh (delaying export by 30 minutes would be the solution here), then full charge is scheduled for 23:30 rather than later at negative rates.

[fboundy]

Try dropping the plunge threshold to -5p

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On 6 Apr 2024 at 16:22 +0100, jacekowski ***@***.***>, wrote: I'm on 3.14.0, and plan for today/tomorrow is definitely not optimal. Charging started today at 5:30 at 0p/kWh, rather than waiting for later in the day to charge at negative rates. Current schedule discharges the battery until 18:30, which will then cause import from the grid at 20p/kWh (delaying export by 30 minutes would be the solution here), then full charge is scheduled for 23:30 rather than later at negative rates. image.png (view on web) — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub, or unsubscribe. You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: ***@***.***>