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Enhancement: Explain different pen types better #19

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martinkoutecky opened this issue Nov 20, 2021 · 8 comments
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Enhancement: Explain different pen types better #19

martinkoutecky opened this issue Nov 20, 2021 · 8 comments
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@martinkoutecky
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My tablet has pressure sensitive input which works well in xournalpp, but doesn't seem to work at all in rnote (everything is the same width). I'm assuming this is not yet intended to work and so it is a feature request rather than a bug?

@flxzt
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flxzt commented Nov 20, 2021

The second pen (Brush) should support variable width strokes. Try running it with X11, maybe it works there. Unfortunately the whole stylus / pressure recognition part happens inside libinput and GTK (that part changed quite a bit in GTK4 I think, that could be why it is working in xournalpp but not in rnote), so I can't do too much about it other than to report bugs myself.

@giannissc
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I can verify the pressure sensitivity works with the brush in Wayland

@martinkoutecky
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OK, I can see that now as well. This was confusing to me, coming from xournalpp and onenote; why would the pen not have pressure sensitivity but the brush would? Is this somehow to be commonly expected?

@giannissc
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Technically you can do this in xournal as well by going to the settings and disabling pressure sensitivity. I think this is a much easier workflow than having to go to the setting everytime you wish to disable pressure sensitivity. As to why that might be useful I guess this answer would be I don't know and that it would depend on each individual user's preferences. I am sometimes switching to the pen tool cause I am not a fan of the brush look in some cases. Hope that helps :)

@flxzt
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flxzt commented Nov 25, 2021

@martinkoutecky Pretty much what giannissc said, personal preference and for example when marking things, you could set the marker to a large width, and half transparent, so you can easily switch between brush and marker. Or when drawing sketches or titles, the variable width might not be desired.

@flxzt flxzt changed the title Feature request: pressure sensitivity Enhancement: Explain different pen types better Nov 25, 2021
@flxzt flxzt added the enhancement New feature or request label Nov 25, 2021
@giannissc
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giannissc commented Nov 26, 2021

@flxzt Maybe you could rename the marker to pen as the marker is mainly used to refer to a highlighter tool. In my opinion i understand that a pen has fixed width whereas a paint brush depends on the pressure and tilt!

you could set the marker to a large width, and half transparent, so you can easily switch between brush and marker.

I haven't actually thought of this use case! Maybe it could be better if inside each tool you have 3 (any number could work) save slots. If for example the pressure sensitivity is desired but you want one tool with a very line, another with a thick line and a 3rd with a thick line but a 50% transparency it would be cool if you switch between all 3 quickly. Maybe it can even be combined with #18?!

@defini-tiv
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Agree about the "marker" should be named "pen".

For pencils-tool in general i think it would be nice to have three tools by defaut (e.g. marker, pen & brush) which are actually a just a special cofiguration of the same tool and could be completely free configured in the settings.
This would allow for switchnig with one click between generic tools by default or between three identical pens that all store their own color and stroke thikness if you want.

@flxzt flxzt added UI / UX Design, UI and UX issues and removed help wanted labels Jan 10, 2022
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flxzt commented Jan 23, 2023

This issue was when the marker was a separate pen. Now that there is only one with different styles, and explaining subtitles for each:

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I believe this should be fixed.

@flxzt flxzt closed this as completed Jan 23, 2023
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