Discovery with and without the --no-cloud build flag.

[michielbdejong]

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[Yoric]

What's the use case/target audience of this option?

[michielbdejong]

People who don't want to leak their data to the cloud, and who don't want to rely on cloud services for the continued operation of their foxbox. In fact, if we would apply item 4 of the Mozilla manifesto, we should not even be calling this an 'option'.

[Yoric]

So why is this a build-time option? Why not something that can be configured locally (with a big red warning somewhere, of course).

[michielbdejong]

Right, maybe it's more correct to call it a runtime option, because as a developer, you could set it from the command line.

However, to the end-user it would be a "purchase time" option unless a hardware developer adds some UI to the box (like a big red button) that affects how cargo run is called when you power up the box.

I'll have a stab today/tomorrow at implementing this command line option.

[gmarty]

If it's the default option, it makes more sense to call it Option 1 and put at the top.

[gmarty]

@michielbdejong: we've been discussing that many times in the past and reached an agreement. Can you highlight what new elements came into play to make us change the direction on that?

[michielbdejong]

@michielbdejong: we've been discussing that many times in the past and reached an agreement. Can you highlight what new elements came into play to make us change the direction on that?

I might be missing some context here, but I think you're referring to the agreement reached during the 'Https everywhere and discovery' meeting on 5 March, where we decided to build 3 options. The new element since then would be that I've retracted my proposal to use QR code since nobody except me liked it. :) So the new situation is that there are not three but two proposals, and the mDNS+TOFU one is slightly different than it was a month ago, because it no longer involves QR code scanning.

Does that answer your question? Let's briefly discuss on irc / Vidyo if it's still unclear! :)

[michielbdejong]

It has been decided that, even though the Box may have a --no-cloud option, there are currently no plans to make the client app compatible with that (until the web platform evolves to support it, for instance with FlyWeb).

I moved the Cordova code (which can discover the Box over mDNS, and can trust a self-signed TLS certificate on first use) to my personal github account.