Improve advice on contributing patches #1856
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I made a couple of text updates via the web interface, but the rest looks good. Thanks for working on this! |
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Oh, and now I see your last sentence :-( My apologies for being too quick :-( As for a CoC: That's a good question. Neither the deal.II nor the ASPECT communities have had problems with uncivil behavior in the last few years. Thus, I have no idea whether a CoC would actually make a difference in actual practice. But then I'm not an expert on these things either and sometimes good things happen that you don't foresee. What do others think? |
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@gassmoeller - I just spoke with @tjesser-ucdavis-edu and unfortunately there is no way straightforward to easily search through the mailing list. Perhaps other platforms offer this feature? It certainly would be nice. CoC: It's hard to imagine uncivil discourse amongst this user group and what such discourse would look like. Perhaps a CoC is not necessary until we actually find an incident to base it on? |
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No harm done, I opened #1856 to remove the advice about the mailing list. Concerning CoC: I am fine postponing the issue to a later point. Some projects mention they had wished to have a CoC before something happened, but I agree that in my view our community currently has no need for it ❤️. If anyone feels differently, please let one of us know! |
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Are there example CoC you can point us too?
Maybe something worth discussing at the next hack?
Lorraine Hwang
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… On Jul 14, 2017, at 5:45 PM, Rene Gassmoeller ***@***.***> wrote:
No harm done, I opened #1856 to remove the advice about the mailing list.
I am no expert on available systems for mailing lists, I just know of the deal.II mailings lists hosted on google groups (https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/dealii) that have (unsurprisingly) a nice search feature. @bangerth does that work out well for deal.II?
Concerning CoC: I am fine postponing the issue to a later point. Some projects mention they had wished to have a CoC before something happened, but I agree that in my view our community currently has no need for it ❤️.
If anyone feels differently, please let one of us know!
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Re mailing list: I think the google forum works great from a practical perspective, with only one (but serious!) drawback: it can't be accessed from China. I wished we had chosen a different solution. I do agree that it's a bit annoying to use a mailing list software that in 2017 doesn't support searching -- surely we can do better. |
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@ljhwang: http://contributor-covenant.org offers an easy to use code of conduct for open source projects that is used by many projects. And regarding mailing list: That is of course a pitty. Maybe we need a different solution then. |
agreed.
It is a shame that access from China is blocked, otherwise google groups is great for several reasons:
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I am open to suggestions for using another open source tool for mailing list. I wonder if anyone has built any tools to layer onto of this for search???
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-Lorraine
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Concerning CoC: I am fine postponing the issue to a later point.
agreed.
mailing list
It is a shame that access from China is blocked, otherwise google groups is great for several reasons:
everybody can decide if they want to use it as a forum or as a mailing list
voting, labeling, marking as "resolved" features
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I'm no longer familiar with the mailing list tool landscape. I suppose that there must be something that supports searching (possibly via an interface to one of the search machines), but I couldn't name anything. |
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Disclaimer: I have no experience hosting mailing lists, so I probably do not know the difference of a good and bad tool.
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I was going to suggest discourse too. Maybe this is something we can play with. |
After reading through most of https://opensource.guide/ I made some more changes to our readme and contributing.md. Hopefully this will lower the barrier to contribute to ASPECT. One thing I am not sure about is the advice on including a code of conduct in the repository. I am not aware that we had much trouble in this regard so far, and I dislike playing by github's rules, just to get our last checkmark at https://github.com/geodynamics/aspect/community, but on the other hand it is not much of a pain, and might become useful. What do others think?
Please wait with merging this PR, I am currently waiting for a response from UC Davis IT staff as to how to search through our mailing list (if that is at all possible).