HIP 68: Open Service Subdao

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HIP 68: Open Service Subdao

• Author(s): @sndnsos @haihongS
• Start Date: 2022/07/23
• Category: Economic, Technical
• Original HIP PR: HIP draft - Open Service SubDAO  #454
• Tracking Issue: HIP 68: Open Service Subdao #457
• Status: In Discussion

Summary

HIP 51: Helium DAO proposed that each communications network built on top of the Helium Network has its own subDAO with its own token and governance. Till now, LoRaWAN subDAO, 5G subDAO, and WiFi subDAO are proposed. They are about communication networks. But another very significant subDAO that should be a next step, is to help build the service market on Helium Network.

For the services on CDN and VPN for example, there would be lots of projects that want to use Helium's Network to help run various services. We think for many Heliums nodes, their bandwidth resources, storage spaces, device performance, and all other idle resources, should be more fully taken used now and in the future.

So here we suggest Helium start an open service list for the projects who have the requirement to use Helium Network. The services which could join the open list need to follow some standards made by the community; And for the nodes of the helium network, they could choose to run any services in the list as their wish, getting extra motivation rewards in return.

We suggest starting the Open-Service subDAO under Helium Network which plays some open and special roles, building a services-supporting market in Helium Network.

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[vincenzospaghetti]

Hi @sndnsos @haihongS - can you provide an update about your HIP here? Thank you!

[Siegfried-B]

On the Meson Discord, I found someone posting a link to this blog post:

https://nijatoes.com/posts/can-open-service-subdaos-bring-back-heliums-glory-days/

[vincenzospaghetti]

Great find! This is a great amendment to their HIP.

Interested in this part:

1. It has the potential to reduce the number of offline hotspots in the Helium network.
   At the moment, 35% of the Helium network’s total hotspots are offline, and this figure is increasing by the day. Low hotspot earnings are one of the main reasons for such a high offline hotspot rate. Some hotspots’ earnings no longer motivate people to operate them. One of the most significant benefits of Meson Network is that it will strengthen the revenue model for Helium hotspot owners. People who run Meson CDN on their hotspots will be able to earn extra HNT. Furthermore, Meson CDN will increase overall data credit utilization in the helium network. This will help in keeping more hotspots online. On the other hand, Meson CDN nodes consume very few resources on the host machine, which means they can run on any hotspot.

I still have questions about how it's even possible to run other services on the device. If a raspberry pi can support it, then I suppose the hotspot can, but am I taking processing power away from PoC? Interested to see them test this on some of the most popular hotspots (like a Bobcat 300) and see if the PoC performance is maintained.

[Siegfried-B]

Regarding the "is it taking away power from PoC": The full hotspots used to act as blockchain nodes - with the transition to light hotspots, the devices neither make full use of their computational power anymore. Nor is the full storage capacity still needed that used to store the blockchain. So there are unused resources on the full hotspots that could be utilized otherwise. No idea what/how much can be done with that though (I am not a dev).

[vincenzospaghetti]

The authors have instructed us to close at this time. They may review this HIP in the future.