Define the basic idea of ​​the system.

[louies0623]

I want to try 5W1H to target.

1. Who is using
2. Why use this system
3. What is the use of this system
4. When will it be used
5. Where is this system used
6. How to do

[louies0623]

I give an example windows, you can also think together.

1. Those who touch the computer for the first time know that there is a moving arrow that can control the computer.
2. because it is easy to use.
3. Copy the software given by the school teacher on the desktop, because he has no internet to use.
4. He's doing a simple poster and it's due tomorrow.
5. He lives in a rural area of ​​Korea and uses an old laptop.
6. He took the flash drive and inserted it into the laptop, he moved the software to the desktop (so that the next installation will be more stable), clicked on the installation software, and after the completion of the installation, he simply entered a few Korean characters and used the mouse to draw, After saving, copy his completed file from the desktop to the pen drive, and complete.

[probonopd]

Hello @louies0623, the basic idea is that you can sit someone who has been using Macs from 1984 to ~2010 (before it started to get iOS'ized) in front of a helloSystem machine and they feel right at home. Without anything being really identical, but conceptually similar enough to make people "feel at home". They should be able to just use the machine without any special instructions.

[louies0623]

Exactly, This is what today's open source systems lack.

[louies0623]

Makes it feel like the computer is saying "Hello! I'm your easier work assistant" .

[louies0623]

From the above example, when comparing helloSystem, The current problem with helloSystem is

1. Support some laptops.
2. Language and input method support.
3. A method or package that enables easy installation of software.
4. Interfaces that can be controlled by a mouse (eg: login screen, settings).
5. How to install fonts
6. Whether the font size of the system is appropriate or too small.（Because the screen of a small laptop is very small）
7. The background program with high CPU usage, but the performance of the real program is too low.

[louies0623]

First, I have four laptops, but none of them can execute your helloSystem.
Second, your system does not correctly display the language I use and the input method that can switch languages ​​on my three desktop computers, and unnecessary key swapping.
Third, can you be sure that everyone will only use the software built into the system to work, such as Darktable, Poedit, VLC, etc. If you add every open source software to it, you will have a long list of menus, even There are categories, but you have to search one by one slowly to find what you want. (For example, Blender is not in the 3D category, this weird category) is too troublesome; this is the importance of the package, recommend Appimage or Flatpak, otherwise add it app store.

[louies0623]

Fourth, what should a user do if he wants to play an offline or non-steam game.
Fifth, the login screen can only be controlled by the keyboard and the basic settings also need to be modified by the terminal, such as the region, date and time settings. You said that you only need to connect to the Internet or set the efi in the computer. Yes, you are right, but only It is correct on your side, because the internal time design of the system is the GMT time on your side rather than the GMT time in the user's computer, which needs to be set, but where to set it.
Sixth, on the 10.1" screen of the eee pc shell series (my relative's), the English characters appear very small, let alone foreign languages, and it will be squeezed into a ball.

[probonopd]

First, I have four laptops, but none of them can execute your helloSystem.

Please give details about each system. Only then I can possibly help.

Second, your system does not correctly display the language I use and the input method that can switch languages ​​on my three desktop computers, and unnecessary key swapping.

Setting the language is not implemented yet in the way I want to implement it. We are not at 1.0 yet ;-)

Third, can you be sure that everyone will only use the software built into the system to work, such as Darktable, Poedit, VLC, etc. If you add every open source software to it, you will have a long list of menus

There will be a high bar for each category. Ideally there will be no more than 1-2 carefully selected applications in each category. So that users not familiar with open source applications know immediately which one to use.

Fourth, what should a user do if he wants to play an offline or non-steam game.

Play an offline or non-steam game.

Fifth, the login screen can only be controlled by the keyboard and the basic settings also need to be modified by the terminal, such as the region, date and time settings.

Can you please elaborate on the login screen? I don't even see it, as the main user is logged in automatically by default. For region, date and time settings my objective is to make these fully automatic so that we never have to fiddle with those manualy, ever. For me it already works :) but more can be done in this area.

Sixth, on the 10.1" screen of the eee pc shell series (my relative's), the English characters appear very small

Please open a ticket with details, including the exact model of the computer, the screen size in inches and in pixels.

Thank you very much for your ideas!

[grahamperrin]

… four laptops, but none of them can execute your helloSystem. …

If you mean that none of them can boot the operating system: this might be an issue with FreeBSD that was quite widespread, but relatively understated.

The fix was outlined at 2021 in Review: Software Development | FreeBSD Foundation under Improved amd64 UEFI boot. In a little more detail, amongst May 2022 release notes for FreeBSD-13.1-RELEASE:

• https://www.freebsd.org/releases/13.1R/relnotes/#boot-loader

In context: https://github.com/helloSystem/ISO/releases/latest latest helloSystem 0.7.0 is based on FreeBSD 13.0-RELEASE, which lacks the fix, and reached its end of life around three months ago.

https://www.freebsd.org/security/unsupported/

[probonopd]

Currently we are working toward helloSystem 0.8.0 which is based on FreeBSD 13.1-RELEASE. Experimental builds are available.

[grahamperrin]

I want to try 5W1H …

What is 5W1H?

[louies0623]

What is 5W1H?

There is an explanation.5W1H
Otherwise there is another approach.

• shneiderman 8 golden rules, Guide2
• Nielsen and Molich's 10 User Interface Design Guidelines

[grahamperrin]

There is an explanation.5W1H

Thanks, I requested a correction to the page.

(The No Comments link seems to have no effect; no interface to add a comment.)

[louies0623]

https://datamyte.com/5w1h-method-comprehensive-guide/

https://www.webomates.com/blog/software-testing/software-testing-and-the-5w-and-1h-technique-of-metrics-reporting/

[louies0623]

This is the second example: system errors, automation time zones, and inconveniences that users can't handle on their own
• What is the problem?
The time zone cannot be set
• Where is the problem?
There is no option to adjust the time zone, datetime, and time
• When is the problem?
On some pages on the browser, "NET::ERR_CERT_DATE_INVALID" will appear and the time needs to be adjusted
• Why is the problem?
Because the automatic time zone caused by the system time is not the user's local time zone (he will understand if he takes a plane to use it in a foreign country)
• Who is affected by the problem?
Users traveling abroad and users who do not live in German Standard Time
• How can we solve the problem?
Add settings

[louies0623]

At present, in all operating systems, you can give some examples that do not need to go through the time zone setting during the installation process, and its time zone time is correct. Maybe you can refer to.

I didn’t find it, because Windows has it, Mac also has it to create users when it starts for the first time, and the same is true for android, not to mention fedora, ubuntu, how about you.

[probonopd]

Yes, I am sick and tired of having to set the timezone each time I start a Live ISO. Hence, the timezone gets automatically set in helloSystem. For example, if a German keyboard is attached, then the matching timezone for Germany gets set. Unfortunately this does not work in all cases, as there is not always a 1:1 relationship between a language, keyboard layout, and timezone. Therefore, the best solution will probably be to introduce a new EFI NVRAM variable for the timezone. So that one can set it one time and then never have to think about it again. Ideally, all operating systems would use that same EFI NVRAM variable.

[louies0623]

Try it, or use the CMOS time of the computer during Live, and set the time zone after the first startup after installation.

[louies0623]

I found a problem this time, that is, one country has one time zone, and some countries are very large and span several time zones, so how do you deal with it?

[louies0623]

I recently discovered that the location of the hello OS installer time zone on the live cd is correct, but the system is wrong, and the system is still in the wrong time zone after installation.

[louies0623]

This is the third example: Desktop computers are vulnerable to data theft or tampering without a screen lock function
• What's the question?
Screen lock required to protect data
• where is the problem?
no lock screen option
• When did the problem arise?
There is no way to lock it when you temporarily leave the computer to go to the bathroom
• Why is there a problem?
There is no lock screen in the system
• Who is affected by the problem?
Librarians, counter personnel, design companies, product developers, product design users, report personnel, teachers, business managers, financial professionals, secretaries, parents with children, personnel in the personnel department, government agencies, etc.
• How do we solve problems?
Add lock screen

[louies0623]

@probonopd If you go to the hospital and find out that they use hello os, then the system is not locked, and your body and medical records are easily taken away

[probonopd]

helloSystem is for personal computers. I would not recommend a hospital to use it in semi-public places.

[louies0623]

I have a friend whose relatives came to visit. The relative’s son used my friend’s mobile phone when his mobile phone was not locked, and used my friend’s account to leave messages on the Internet. As a result, he was blocked by the community, and it was you and you How does your computer feel.

[probonopd]

Auto-login into slim can be disabled, but currently it needs to be done by editing /usr/local/etc/slim.conf.

[louies0623]

And what I want is to temporarily leave to protect the current work progress, not to log out of that kind of lock！