Eating one's own dog food

[sgbeal]

The style guide lost me at:

"Note: For brevity only, the rest of the examples in this guide may omit the IIFE syntax."

at which point i was reminded of a quote by Jon Stewart:

"If you don't stick to your values when they're being tested, they're not values: they're hobbies."

and, as so many parents and teachers like to say:

"Do as I say, not as I do."

It's difficult to take a self-help guide seriously when it refuses to follow its own advice. There's no reason (especially not brevity) the style guide should be exempt from its own advice.

Something to consider.

[jeanvillete]

Really?

Are you claiming because you didn't understand the examples or because you
don't know IIFE syntax?

"Note: For brevity only, it is a style guide (the best one) and just it,
but it looks like someone is looking for a code in order to just copy it..."

On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 5:00 AM, Stephan Beal notifications@github.com
wrote:

The style guide lost me at:

"Note: For brevity only, the rest of the examples in this guide may omit
the IIFE syntax."

at which point i was reminded of a quote by Jon Stewart:

"If you don't stick to your values when they're being tested, they're not
values: they're hobbies."

and, as so many parents and teachers like to say:

"Do as I say, not as I do."

It's difficult to take a self-help guide seriously when it refuses to
follow its own advice. There's no reason (especially not brevity) the style
guide should be exempt from its own advice.

Something to consider.

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[sgbeal]

Seriously, i don't understand the examples? i've been programming since the early 1980s, JavaScript for nearly 20 years, and i've authored more than one scripting language myself.

i'm stating that if the author(s) cannot be bothered to follow his/their own advice, he/they should not bother writing that advice.

End of story.

[gkalpak]

Fwiw, I appreciate the brevity. I am glad I don't have to deal with the IIFE "noise" when is irrelevant to the example at hand.

[mikeerickson]

Now now kids, lets be nice to one another. Taking into account

• @johnpapa is an awesome person in the community
• @johnpapa is try to make the angular community a better place
• @johnpapa is bald which gives him 10 extra do whatever he wants points

It is a soft guideline, not a rule. If you don't like something in the guide, simply gloss over it and move on. No sense in attacking him.

[kylecordes]

@johnpapa is my favorite person also :-) but in the defense of the OP, we went through these same issues with our class curriculum, and decided, at least for A1 JS code, to follow the style guide and use IIFEs everywhere even in tiny single-purpose example programs. We found that by doing so, learners much more effectively absorb the idea of coding according to the guide and according to common conventions therein. It is a bit of visual noise, but probably worthwhile overall.

[mikeerickson]

I too follow the IIFE pattern for all angular 1 dev. I was more commenting on the flame from @sgbeal There are better and more productive ways to articulate ones point, being rude is not the way. It is posts like this that give OSS devs a bad taste. I just cant fathom how someone getting something for free can do this.

[johnpapa]

There is an easy solution ... make a PR (150+ others have) :)

@kylecordes and @mikeerickson and thanks for the positive vibes