New position for arrow buttons in Spotlight #951
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The arrows will then overlap with the sidemenu when set to Never, Library, or Media. The one on the right could also be difficult to see depending on the fanart on display. |
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Haha I will happily concede with this 😂🏳️🏳️ At the end of the day, this was more of just visual candy trying to emulate other streaming platforms with no real benefits to the skin navigation. I thought once the chevrons are activated/visible, clicking up and down would take them to the sidemenu and play button respectively, but this only makes sense/is intuitive when it's a topbar (and having something only for the topbar that doesn't match the vertical layout would break the overall cohesion of the skin). And like you said, getting rid of the highlight breaks the overall design language of the skin. I definitely need to think more before posting these dumb ideas lol |
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It was a good try! Definitely looks cool, but we are all guilty of focusing on our specific setups and situations. :) |
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I think it's also fair to talk out ideas, as I find that actually helps me think through the idea to understand/reveal the pains/gains of it etc. It's by no means a bad idea either! It's not as though I'm looking at it thinking "what a terrible idea! He hasnt considered xyz" - it's more just a couple of things felt a bit off and once I talked them out I realised what they were. |
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You guys are all awesome! I love y'all haha! |
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Ok guys I lied 😂. I didn't give up on the idea and spent the last couple of days editing some xml files and got it to work! Check it out here Let me know what y'all think! |
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Hey guys! So I know I said I'm giving up on this idea (I may have lied haha 😂) but I think I have a cool solution to this! I was inspired by the navigation in the 'Fullscreen Widget' in Arctic Horizon 2 (damn I wish I could meet the guy that keeps making these awesome skins!). The gist of it is removing the two arrow buttons and having the leftmost button (play button) and the rightmost button (context menu button) have a onleft and onright condition along with their default onclick function to move the Spotlight carousel. So for the last couple of days I tried editing the Actions, Expressions and Spotlight xml files and I think I got it to work! (super janky code though, needs a lot of cleanup) I have tried every scenario I could possibly think of (Sidemenu set to Never, Always and Topbar along with Menu Left set to None and Options) and nothing seems to break yet (famous last words). As a visual hint, I have also used 2 small chevron icons (similar to the designs I posted previously but not as buttons, just indicators) that appear when either the play button (left chevron appears) or context menu button (right chevron appears) is highlighted to let the users know that these buttons have an additional function apart from their default onlick one. I should have probably added a fade animation to make it look sweeter but it's alright for the time being. Here's how the navigation works: Clicking right from the sidemenu (or down from Topbar) will take you the Spotlight buttons Once the Play button is focused, you can left click to move the carousel one item behind. Similarly having the rightmost button (context menu button) highlighted and right clicking will move the carousel forward. Clicking back will take you the sidemenu for both cases (minimzed never and always). In case of Topbar clicking up will do the same. This doesn't affect the navigation in any other part of the skin (using a separate Action for the Spotlight buttons). Like having Menu Left set to Options or None will still apply to all your widgets and other elements. But when the Spotlight buttons are in focus, only back will take you to the sidemenu (i.e. there is no 'wrap' function or a 'bump' animation for obvious reasons) But once the sidemenu is in focus it'll respect your Menu Left skin setting (Options or None) The biggest breakthrough was getting the auto trailer to work properly. A few days ago, Jurial pushed a commit that made all of this possible! The AutoTrailer OnClick Action with the pos param is what keeps everything running smoothly! I am standing on the shoulder of a true giant! While a trailer is playing you can move the focus from any of the spotlight buttons by clicking left or right to stop the playback. Clicking down to move into the widgets will also also stop trailer playback. I think all widgets refreshing when a video starts/stops playback maybe a Kodi limitation and not something that can be controlled in the skin. I have tried to be as comprehensive as possible so I apologize for the extremely long post. Let me know what you guys think! |
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I could be wrong, but I'm fairly sure I originally had the AH2 style navigation back in the early days when it was just two buttons with the long "More information" text. I remember that the whole reason I switched to a scrubber button was because people complained that the AH2 style navigation was confusing because it was inconsistent with how other parts behaved. Then from the scrubber, I separated it out into individual buttons because I disliked having one weird button that stole up/down presses when the others didn't and also because having separate buttons work better for touch/mouse.
The problem with this is that Kodi overrides Back when something is playing and forces it to toggle fullscreen instead. So if you have something playing there is absolutely no way to return to the menu unless you have a dedicated menu button mapped. Obviously this is also a problem anyway if you have the menu set to always minimised, but at least that behaviour is then consistent for all controls/widgets so you know that you have to first stop playback. However, when side menu is always visible (which is what I personally use), it is really jarring when suddenly left doesn't work as expected in only one spot and does something different. |
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Yeah I completely agree with everything you said. This style of navigation for the Spotlight doesn't mesh well with always visible side menu. This only makes sense for Topbar or Minimized setups (albeit with a lot of quirks).
Currently the way I am circumventing the Kodi onback issue during trailer playback is by using onup for sidemenu visible always/topbar Onup only makes sense for topbar tho. If v22 ever gives us the option to stop Kodi from overriding I am just surprised that you're not offended by me messing around with your skin so much haha. I thought your reaction would be more like this: |
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Good point. Menu set to always minimised looks quite nice, I immediately switched to it when it was added, but it wasn't so great to not be able to access the sidemenu when something was playing.
Ah, good insight. I only adopted Fuse after the full release of Omega so didn't see what it was like in the early days. It already had the single scrubber button (which I didn't love either) when I first set it up. I wonder whether the original complaints on the AH2 style navigation (if that was a thing) are still valid, with how the skin has evolved over time... |
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I agree 💯💯 Spotlight buttons are perfect as is currently,one of the many different features of AF that makes it unique from other streaming platform's ,GREAT WORK @jurialmunkey |
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Hey guys! Hope everyone is doing well! Just so we are all on the same page, this post is just about me experimenting with the skin (maybe a bit too overzealously haha) and sharing my results. Please don't take it as me trying to pester Jurial into adding this into the Skin. We are all big fans of Jurial and the work he does for the community and it's never my intention to bastardize his creation or disrespect his choices. I have changed the tag from 'Feature Request' to 'Show & Tell' to avoid any confusion. Very grateful to Jurial and the community for allowing me to use this platform to showcase my silly little mods haha! ✌️ |
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Skin section
Widgets
Feature description
I was thinking if we could have the arrow buttons from the bottom of the Info line to beside the fanart of the movie displayed in the Spotlight. Something similar to what other streaming platforms use?
Maybe even use
usealttextureto toggle between the chevron textures (smaller for default and larger/brighter for selected) and skip the button highlight overlay?I have attached a few mockups below. Let me know what you think!
Why is this feature needed? Please justify and explain.
More modern and minimalistic like a lot of other streaming platforms
Screenshots and Additional Info
2.a. Right Chevron Highlighted (minimalistic)
OR
2.b. Right Chevron Highlighted with Overlay
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