Option sorted display, selection with . (dot)

[rayhofmann]

A option to sort or group the list by applications would be nice.

Only if a group is matched it is expanded, to keep the list shorter and possibly all of it on the screen.

And selection with a dot would also be nice: chr.abc means select group of chr(ome) applications by application name and not by caption and then match to abc of the window caption.

[kvakulo]

Thanks for sharing your ideas! 👍

I especially like the one where you can search by application name, and then by window caption using eg the chr.abc syntax

The grouping by application seems a little less useful according to my personal usage, so I would like to understand that need a little better. Would you mind sharing a screenshot of a typical Switcheroo listing of your open windows, and how much screen space it takes up? Do you have specific programs that have many open windows?

/Regin

[rayhofmann]

You're welcome.

This is a typical screenshot.

I like to have the pdfs, vims, browsers etc. sorted/grouped first by
application name and then by window title. Then application groups may
be folded and only expanded when the application is selected with
"app.", somewhat customizable to switch this off/on at least.

This way you will not have to scroll or guess what is hidden less with
many windows, many open pdfs, etc..

Ray

Am 21.02.2015 um 19:39 schrieb Regin Lrsen:

Thanks for sharing your ideas! 👍

I especially like the one where you can search by application name,
and then by window caption using eg the chr.abc syntax

The grouping by application seems a little less useful according to my
personal usage, so I would like to understand that need a little
better. Would you mind sharing a screenshot of a typical Switcheroo
listing of your open windows, and how much screen space it takes up?
Do you have specific programs that have many open windows?

/Regin

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[kvakulo]

Hi Ray,

The screenshot didn't make it through to GitHub. Would you mind uploading it directly on the issue, or alternatively sending it to me by e-mail (kvakulo at gmail)?

/Regin

[rayhofmann]

[kvakulo]

Thanks for the screenshot. Now I can certainly see why groupings per application or something similar would be quite useful.

/Regin

[rayhofmann]

And i want to express again how happy i am to find switcharoo, after trying some stpid alt-tab replacements and task switchers i felt lost with my desire to use much the keyboard.

Ray

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Thanks for the screenshot. Now I can certainly see why groupings per application or something similar would be quite useful.

/Regin

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[kvakulo]

I'm glad to hear that you like Switcheroo. If you get other ideas of how to improve the program, please let me know.

/Regin

[kvakulo]

Hi @rayhofmann! I'm experimenting with the dot syntax over in #35. There's a build with that feature enabled if you want to try it out and see if this helps to navigate between your many open windows.

/ Regin

[rayhofmann]

Hi Regin,

i testet it a bit, it feels really good.

Sorting the list by application name and then by window title should
also improve it, especially because the order now does not seem to have
any consistency or meaning.
I could think of an alternative way to sort: By the start time of the
application and then by window title, but still grouping same
application names.

This means within groups there is sorted by window title, but the list
of groups is sorted by the youngest/oldest application from the group.

You could have the most recently started listed first or vice versa this
way.

Sorting is also useful for example when with time your open explorer
windows accumulate and you have to clean up.

Also a quick selection of the first listed entries could be handy. Just
use the same shift keys from the configured shortcut with numbers from
1..9. Makes most sense with sorting.

Also switcheroo could be invoked in a second mode with a different
shortcut like Alt+Tab, to replace and mimic the built in switcher
completely. So to get to the previously started application you would
press Alt+Tab.Tab, and Alt+Tab to get back to the most recent, the
switcheroo display could be just the same just without the edit field
for typing.

In this mode it is always sorted by application start time and then
window title, no grouping, most recently started first.

And Alt+Shift-Tab for going backwards in the list could also be
implemented then.

I like the "ctrl-w" feature, i was missing this until i found it. Very
handy for cleaning up quickly.

The "." to get all windows of the focus app is also nice.

Scrolling seems not to work anymore when the list is longer than the screen.

Raymund Hofmann

Am 24.02.2015 um 03:57 schrieb Regin Larsen:

Hi @rayhofmann https://github.com/rayhofmann! I'm experimenting with
the dot syntax order in #35
#35. There's a build
with that feature enabled if you want to try it out and see if this
helps to navigate between your many open windows.

/ Regin

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[kvakulo]

I greatly appreciate the feedback Raymund!

Sorting
Currently it works like this: Windows are initially sorted by the window order like in Windows' Alt+Tab feature. When you start to enter some text, then the windows are ordered by best match and then by the window order. It would be interesting to experiment with other sort orders as you propose.

Quick selection
It's a great idea to be able to quickly jump by a shortcut. I think that Alt+1..9 would make the most sense since Alt is usually used to activate Switcheroo, so the finger is already in the position.

Alt+Tab integration
Actually Switcheroo can already be activated with Alt+Tab and Shift+ Alt+Tab. But only if the Alt+Tab integration is activated. This is done by right-clicking the Switcheroo icon in the notification area, clicking Options, and then checking "Activate Switcheroo with Alt+Tab". It seems like this option needs to be presented more clearly in the application, Github and the homepage so it's easier to discover.

Scrolling
I'll make sure to fix this issue and let you know.

/ Regin

[rayhofmann]

Am 24.02.2015 um 18:44 schrieb Regin Larsen:

I greatly appreciate the feedback Raymund!

/Sorting/
Currently it works like this: Windows are initially sorted by the
window order like in Windows' Alt+Tab feature. When you start to enter
some text, then the windows are ordered by best match and then by the
window order. It would be interesting to experiment with other sort
orders as you propose.

/Quick selection/
It's a great idea to be able to quickly jump by a shortcut. I think
that |Alt+1..9| would make the most sense since |Alt| is usually used
to activate Switcheroo, so the finger is already in the position.

/Alt+Tab integration/
Actually Switcheroo can already be activated with |Alt+Tab| and
|Shift+ Alt+Tab|. But only if the Alt+Tab integration is activated.
This is done by right-clicking the Switcheroo icon in the notification
area, clicking Options, and then checking "Activate Switcheroo with
Alt+Tab". It seems like this option needs to be presented more clearly
in the application, Github and the homepage so it's easier to discover.

Ah, i overlooked that.

But still i proposed to change the switcheroo behaviour then so as soon
as you release the ALT the selected window is activated, just like
Windows Alt+Tab. This is where the different sorting styles, user
configurable to some extent, make Switcheroo the better ALT+Tab replacement.

Raymund

/Scrolling/
I'll make sure to fix this issue and let you know.

/ Regin

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[kvakulo]

It's now possible to switch to another window when Alt+Tab is released.

I close this issue, but please let me know if you should still experience problems with other functionalities :)