Rawhide

[as400l]

This is more of a question than issue.
I was just wondering whether I could switch to rawhide repos after install ? Or you don't recommend it ?

Any answer appreciated.

[leifliddy]

Sorrym I must have missed this message.
So I don't have a rawhide repo
https://www.leifliddy.com/asahi-linux/

But in any case, Fedora rawhide is now based on f39, which is probably not what you would want to use atm.

The Fedora team is going to announce an official Asahi release (F38-based) sometime within the next month or two.
So I would just wait until that happens. That way you could easily jump between whichever release you want.
In the meantime, you could simply rebuild the kernel and mesa-related packages for F38 if you wanted to. All other Fedora-Asahi packages should already be in the official Fedora repos. (m1n1, uboot, asahi-scripts, dracut-asahi, alsa-ucm-asahi...etc)

What sort of benefit are you expecting from Fedora rawhide?
The F37 kernel and mesa packages (in my repo) are already bleeding-edge....

[as400l]

Thx for an answer.

To answer your question. Up until now I used rolling distro. I hope that switching to rawhide would give me similar experience.

[leifliddy]

Aghhhh, the thing is that Fedora has a 6 month release cadence.
Think about that for a minute -- every 6 months, a new version of Fedora is released.
In my mind that's really the best of both worlds -- where you can have bleeding-edge software without the instability that's inherit with many rolling-release distros.
Fedora rawhide is really a development/staging environment/repo. It's sort of like the main/master branch on a git repo.
Rawhide is geared toward testers, devs, early adopters...etc. If you fall into that category, that's cool -- we need people to test, evaluate, and provide feedback. But I don't really look at it as a substitute for a rolling-release distro.

Also, a six month release cadence is really fast. I mean Fedora 37 has python3.11, glibc 2.36. binutils 2.38, perl 5.36, golang 1.19, firefox 110, kernel 6.1.15, systemd-251.13, pipewire-0.3.67, mpv-0.35...etc.

Most of these packages are at the latest version or 1 behind the latest version (except for systemd, which is 2 behind)

But next month, when F38 is released, almost all of those packages will be at the latest version.

And that's pretty damn good.....

Also.... please consider joining this channel if you haven't already
https://app.element.io/#/room/#asahi:fedoraproject.org

There's a number of high-level Fedora devs there that have much more experience then I do ; )

[as400l]

Hmmm - I must say you got me thinking. Some good arguments.

Channel joined :)

[ericcurtin]

Expect plenty of issues if you switch to rawhide repos, but it's a good way of becoming a Fedora contributor! Finding those bugs, fixing the bug upstream or in the Fedora rawhide repo.