Add redirections for Hackernews

[ghost]

Hackernews is a social news network. There are two libre front-ends available for it which would be nice to have:

• https://github.com/algolia/hn-search
• https://github.com/rajatkulkarni95/hckrnws

[IkelAtomig]

It's great to know, But What does it add to Privacy Can you list that ?

[m77e4t]

Libredirect (fork of Privacy redirect) is an Privacy enhancing software.
Unless and until the redirection does not offer any privacy benefit I don't think we should offer any redirection.
If not then then Libredirect will have to offer 100's of redirection for no reason.

Hacker news [news.ycombinator.com] itself is not privacy harming in any way.

[ManeraKai]

LibRedirect main goal is to redirect to multiple random decentralized privacy friendly instances. I'll treat those two like how I treated Qwant, Mojek, and Startpage, if someone wants them to be redirected, then make a separate extension for them: Qwant, Mojek, Startpage

I think I'll also do the same with old.reddit.com as there's already an extension with over 32,000 users for it.

I think I'll also remove pixiv.moe as there's only one instance and it's not that privacy friendly. it even now requires a login and you can't browse anything without logging in. ex:
https://pixiv.moe
https://pixiv.moe/illust/96572356

I don't want to bloat the extension. I'll just add those who are privacy friendly or who are the best but not the perfect option for privacy that's available right now.

[ghost]

It's great to know, But What does it add to Privacy Can you list that ?

Libredirect (fork of Privacy redirect) is an Privacy enhancing software. Unless and until the redirection does not offer any privacy benefit I don't think we should offer any redirection. If not then then Libredirect will have to offer 100's of redirection for no reason.

Hacker news [news.ycombinator.com] itself is not privacy harming in any way.

Compared to Hacker News the projects are open source that is the main privacy advantage they have.

LibRedirect main goal is to redirect to multiple random decentralized privacy friendly instances. I'll treat those two like how I treated Qwant, Mojek, and Startpage, if someone wants them to be redirected, then make a separate extension for them: Qwant, Mojek, Startpage

I think I'll also do the same with old.reddit.com as there's already an extension with over 32,000 users for it.

I think I'll also remove pixiv.moe as there's only one instance and it's not that privacy friendly. it even now requires a login and you can't browse anything without logging in. ex: https://pixiv.moe https://pixiv.moe/illust/96572356

I don't want to bloat the extension. I'll just add those who are privacy friendly or who are the best but not the perfect option for privacy that's available right now.

I understand, the privacy advantage might not be as big as other projects and I would understand not using this redirection. You also mentioned about thinking of removing pixiv.moe. I think removing Firefox Send would also make sense. Because there rarely is a case where you will get redirected and it adds uneccesary bloat.

[ManeraKai]

I think removing Firefox Send would also make sense. Because there rarely is a case where you will get redirected and it adds uneccesary bloat.

Problem with Send is that it's really hard to find and I want to distribute the load between instances. getting redirected is really hard so that's why I added links to the popup. Press on any service/frontend in the popup and you'll get redirected right away to a random instance.

Thinking also of LibreSpeed too as it only has one instance and I'm just redirecting the root path / and nothing else useful.

cc: @sonalder-darlene

[vairag22]

Then Send should be a button like 🔃 Instance, Settings and Copy Raw in the Popup Menu.

[ManeraKai]

it's already like this. Just go the general settings tab an enable it to be shown. Maybe I should show it by default.

[vairag22]

Nope. It's a toggle button, not a "button" button like Settings or Copy Raw.

[ManeraKai]

will just be out of context. It's a Frontend not a function. all the other frontend buttons have the same functionality.

[vairag22]

Firefox Send (send.firefox.com) has been discontinued. LR does not redirect from that website.

[ManeraKai]

https://github.com/timvisee/send

You won't find it easily as the keyword "send" is really common.

[vairag22]

Okay I checked sendTargets.js.

const targets = [ /^https?:\/{2}send.invalid\/$/, /^ https ?: \/\/send\.firefox\.com\/$/, /^https?:\/{2}sendfiles\.online\/$/ ];

It only redirects from https://send.invalid and https://sendfiles.online, not https://send.firefox.com.

[vairag22]

will just be out of context. It's a Frontend not a function. all the other frontend buttons have the same functionality.

I didn't knew about sendfiles.online.

[ManeraKai]

I'll try to add more links for redirecting off of them for Send.

[ManeraKai]

Like hn-search is just a search engine for hackernews. It doesn't need automated redirections.

[vairag22]

Is this issue still relevant?

[ManeraKai]

Yes, The only thing I don't like is it having one instance. Though osm, an facilmap are the same story and I have a custom instance option in the settings for facilmap.

[vairag22]

Yes, The only thing I don't like is it having one instance.

What 😕?

Didn't you reject adding redirects for Hackernews because it isn't a risk to user privacy, then we shifted the topic to a bug in Send redirects: send.firefox.com is not redirected to where it should instead it redirects to mozilla.org even though everything seems fine in the regex.

const targets = [ /^https?:\/{2}send.invalid\/$/, /^ https ?: \/\/send\.firefox\.com\/$/, /^https?:\/{2}sendfiles\.online\/$/ ];

You said you'll fix this and add new links to Send, if possible.

Is this issue still relevant?

I meant, have you fixed the bug we discussed earlier?

[ManeraKai]

After seeing the source code of the homepage of hacker news, yes I won't add this frontend. This frontend (https://github.com/rajatkulkarni95/hckrnws) even states that it's for a better reading experience rather than a privacy this. And you are correct @vairag22, there's nothing wrong in the homepage of hacker news.