Built?

[pgiacomo69]

Is it possible to get a built version for Windows?
Why aren't any new release?
Thanks

[Wolf-SO]

go to https://flamerobin.sourceforge.io/
there you'll find links to binaries. The binaries are still provided on sourceforge ...

[luronumen]

People are stopping using FlameRobin because:
1- The project has been stopped for years without any updates to the latest versions of Firebird 3 and 4
2- The last functional version of the installation file for windows (flamerobin-0.9.3.5ece15b-setup.exe) is almost 7 years old since its launch

It is very sad to see that one of the best Firebird Admins is becoming increasingly difficult to use in newer versions of Firebird (3 and 4)

[krilbe]

Yes, it's a pity. At the same time I can see that it has some basic architectural flaws that would require substantial work to fix, notably the fundamental "hourglass" approach: executing DB operations in the main GUI thread. They should of course be executed in the background. I brought this up at some point but got a reply along the lines of too much work. Regards, Kjell Den 2020-05-02 kl. 21:33, skrev Luciano Mendes:

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People are stopping using FlameRobin because: 1- The project has been stopped for years without any updates to the latest versions of Firebird 3 and 4 2- The last functional version of the installation file for windows (flamerobin-0.9.3.5ece15b-setup.exe) is almost 7 years old since its launch It is very sad to see that one of the best Firebird Admins is becoming increasingly difficult to use in newer versions of Firebird (3 and 4) — You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#38 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ABDFXLCZHDM7RVFCGX67JHLRPRYRNANCNFSM4LXLIE3Q>.

[PizzaProgram]

A bigger problem is:

• it can not handle properly tables and fields with MixedUpperLowerCaseChars.

For example:
if you generate an SQL > it should auto use "" chars, but only if needed:
delete from "SomeTable" where ("My_ID" = 1) and (UPPERFIELD = 2);

Also it would be great to be able to:

1. set split view as default
2. click on BROWSE at table's properties page
   etc...

[arvanus]

@PizzaProgram How are you?
So, I'm working on this problem of MixedUpperLowerCaseChars, have you noticed if are ther more places where its displaying wrong?
I'm looking at "Generate code" only.

[arvanus]

@pgiacomo69 "for now" you can download a preview at my own fork, @mariuz invited me to join this project, but there are some steps I think that I need to follow before publishing a release so I won't do it right now.
Take a loot there, and warn me if you found any problem

[arvanus]

Hi, please test the latest snapshot available and let me know if it's working
https://github.com/mariuz/flamerobin/releases/tag/0.9.3.2

[luronumen]

Thank you very much for this update Arvanus! I have 2 suggestions for fixing in the next build: 1- Remove the System Domains (SEC$KEY, SEC$NAME_PART, SEC$USER_NAME amd (SEC$VALUE) form the domain node (See SystemDomains.PNG attached); 2- Separate the triggers in 2 nodes: "Triggers" for table triggers and "Database Triggers" for the database triggers; Best Regards, Luciano Em seg., 10 de ago. de 2020 às 16:37, arvanus <notifications@github.com> escreveu:

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[arvanus]

Sorry, no print attached
Please, open 2 issues with your suggestions, so we can discuss them there

[luronumen]

Hi Arvanus! I just open the 2 issues as you requested: Remove the System Domains from the domain node #47 #47 Separate the triggers in 2 nodes: "Triggers" and "Database Triggers" #48 #48 Thank you very much for your work for making this tool very useful again! Best Regards, Luciano Em seg., 10 de ago. de 2020 às 17:09, arvanus <notifications@github.com> escreveu:

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[arvanus]

OK, thanks
I think that some more changes could be done like:
Renaming "Functions" to UDF
And creating "Internal Functions" for Fb3 internal functions like IBExpert, what you think?

[luronumen]

Hi *arvans*, Sure! You can follow *RedExpert* screenshot that I attached in this issue: #47 Note that Firebird 3 now supports: - *PSQL Stored Functions* (See: https://firebirdsql.org/file/documentation/release_notes/html/en/3_0/rnfb30-psql-funcs.html ) - *Packages *(See: https://firebirdsql.org/file/documentation/release_notes/html/en/3_0/rnfb30-psql-packages.html ) I do not have expertise with C++ development but I can help you a lot testing the FlamRobin once that I have 15 years expertise in software testing and Firebird Database Administrator :) Best Regards, Luciano Em seg., 10 de ago. de 2020 às 17:25, arvanus <notifications@github.com> escreveu:

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OK, thanks I think that some more changes could be done like: Renaming "Functions" to UDF And creating "Internal Functions" for Fb3 internal functions like IBExpert, what you think? — You are receiving this because you commented. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#38 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AB5F4CWONKMHSW2TSEWCJFDSABJUZANCNFSM4LXLIE3Q> .

[PizzaProgram]

Thank you very much for the new release. 👍 I'll test the MixedUpperLowerCaseChars soon.
But first I have to ask:

• WHY this version numbering???

2015: flamerobin-0.9.3.5ece15b-setup
2017: flamerobin-0.9.3.c75f861-setup
2020: flamerobin-0.9.3.55883844-setup.exe ... while you "call" it 0.9.3.2

How should we able to distinguish one version from the other?

As a programmer myself let me share my experience:

• Since we have started our pizza-program back in 2002, we have simply used:
  myprogram-20200810.exe
  (And the "properties" window of the EXE is showing: 2020.8.10.58925 )
  Life is much much easier from all the users, and also for me!

< OFF >
For example:
IF a user is calling me on the phone, while I'm not sitting at my PC >>> I can easily identify the "version" from the date, so I can HELP them.
( Because usually it's much easier to remember WHEN a feature has been implemented or a bug fixed. Last week or 2+ years ago )

How many persons are out there who can remember in 5 years from now if "5ece15b" was in 2015 or 2020?
( Sorry, I just can not understand any login on this, why most of the programmers like to make other people's life a pain? )

[luronumen]

I wrote the wrong *RedExpert* screenshot reference. The correct is from issue #48 Best Regards, Luciano Em seg., 10 de ago. de 2020 às 17:39, Luciano Rodrigues Nunes Mendes < luronumen@gmail.com> escreveu:

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Hi *arvans*, Sure! You can follow *RedExpert* screenshot that I attached in this issue: #47 Note that Firebird 3 now supports: - *PSQL Stored Functions* (See: https://firebirdsql.org/file/documentation/release_notes/html/en/3_0/rnfb30-psql-funcs.html ) - *Packages *(See: https://firebirdsql.org/file/documentation/release_notes/html/en/3_0/rnfb30-psql-packages.html ) I do not have expertise with C++ development but I can help you a lot testing the FlamRobin once that I have 15 years expertise in software testing and Firebird Database Administrator :) Best Regards, Luciano Em seg., 10 de ago. de 2020 às 17:25, arvanus ***@***.***> escreveu: > OK, thanks > I think that some more changes could be done like: > Renaming "Functions" to UDF > And creating "Internal Functions" for Fb3 internal functions like > IBExpert, what you think? > > — > You are receiving this because you commented. > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > <#38 (comment)>, > or unsubscribe > <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AB5F4CWONKMHSW2TSEWCJFDSABJUZANCNFSM4LXLIE3Q> > . >

[arvanus]

Hi @PizzaProgram :) so it's my first build for official FR snapshot, I was really thinking about increase or not the path version, in the next snapshot I'll increase it

[krilbe]

Den 2020-08-10 kl. 22:52, skrev arvanus:

Hi @PizzaProgram <https://github.com/PizzaProgram> :) so it's my first build for official FR snapshot, I was really thinking about increase or not the minor version, in the next snapshot I'll increase it

Why not consider semantic versioning? https://semver.org/ I know it may be better suited for libraries than interactive user apps, but it could give some ideas for version numbering. The date approach is also a good one. Regards, Kjell

[mariuz]

0.9.3.+ git hash are snapshots done only for testing purposes , not a final release

[arvanus]

Hi everybody
@mariuz I'm thinking to build a new snapshot for testing, I just wanted to talk about this issue #66 before
What do you think?
If anyone could take a look at that suggested fix, I'd be glad

[luronumen]

Hi @arvanus

When you are generating a new version do not forget to optimize the compilation as much as possible in terms of size, speed, etc (FlameRobin.exe around 3,100 KB).

Best Regards,
Luciano

[arvanus]

Hi @luronumen I'm using default "Release Dynamic" build


I am sincerely not comfortable to change this parameters by myself for some Mb reduction 😢

[luronumen]

Hi @mariuz

How did you manage to optimize the flamerobin-0.9.3.5ece15b-setup.exe executable? Could you please help @arvanus in this task?