Investigate QEMU

[mihaip]

Would allow Mac OS X 10-10.5 to run (guide for native build). https://github.com/atrosinenko/qemujs is a port from a few years ago, https://github.com/garrysmith-forks/browservm.js claims to be another (it's a fork of https://github.com/elliott-wen/browservm.js, which disappeared at some point).

There is also https://github.com/AlexAltea/unicorn.js, which is a JS port of Unicorn (which is a CPU emulator framework based on QEMU's).

[nilobject]

qemu can run 9.2.2 as well, which some applications require

[that-ben]

(Note: Most applications that require a newer Mac OS than 9.0.4 actually require 9.1 or above. The reason why SheepShaver stopped at 9.0.4 is that the MMU in Mac OS become a requirement starting at 9.1 and SheepShaver cannot emulate that. Mac OS 9.2 did not bring any major change to the table. It's only speed improvements and bug fixes.)

[onpaws]

the MMU in Mac OS become a requirement starting at 9.1 and SheepShaver cannot emulate that.

TIL, thanks for sharing that tidbit. Do you know why SheepShaver cannot emulate MMUs?
I have the impression MMUs have been emulated by other emulators out there, and a bit curious why this is true of SheepShaver.

[that-ben]

SheepShaver came out the same year that Mac OS 8.1 came out (1998) and no such thing as MMU nor Mac OS 9 existed yet. I suspect that Christian Bauer programmed SheepShaver in a way that is too hard to make it work with MMU, but I don't really know. All I can tell you is that more modern emulators (as of now only QEMU) can emulate Mac OS 9.1 and 9.2 though.

[upintheairsheep]

Devos50 has a QEMU fork that can boot iOS 1 emulating the iPod Touch 2G: https://github.com/devos50/qemu

[that-ben]

Though, can really old iOS apps even be installed on such an emulator, offline? I mean except for using Cydia. If so, I wonder if there's an online archive of all iOS apps/games since those were signed by Apple (now expired) and were all taken out of the App Store since they're 32-bit.

[upintheairsheep]

iOS 1 has no apps, other than system ones, but for apps go to the internet archive.

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[that-ben]

Oh yeah, will you look at that: .ipa files huh? That's fascinating. Do you think a QEMU fork will soon be able to emulate those iOS 3, 4 or 5 apps?

[upintheairsheep]

Oh yeah, will you look at that: .ipa files huh? That's fascinating. Do you think a QEMU fork will soon be able to emulate those iOS 3, 4 or 5 apps?

in the near future. iOS 1 is very interesting for some due to being the first ever version of iOS, however some guy on r/Apple_Internal/ has emulated an internal testing firmware for the same device, albeit with a few bugs.

[that-ben]

Even though I'm repeating myself, I find this truly fascinating. Thanks for this tidbit of information. Though, not sure I should thank you, because this feels to me like you've just opened Pandora's box!

[upintheairsheep]

Yes, emulation wiki on gametech has lots of misc emulation from car head units to smart tvs to misc cellphones to iOS to iPods that do not run iOS.