MTG textures overhaul?

[temhotaokeaha]

MTG's default textures are somewhat lacking. "It's in maintanence mode" -- been 3 years and MTG is STILL the first thing that 99% of people will see about Minetest because it's the "default game". Latest example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va-YHeytvFQ -- big youtuber makes video about MT, obviously picks MTG to play, has to play with textures which could be better.

inb4 "texturepacks" -- DEFAULTS should be SANE and default textures updates are something Minecraft and Terraria went through.

Thoughts?

[appgurueu]

I am in favor of a texture redo (including making an exception to the maintenance mode for this). Waiting on input from other @minetest/game maintainers.

[sfan5]

I think the primary problem here is that MTG is still presented as default game.
Texture reworks have historically always been lots of back-and-forth with subjective opinions so I'd rather not do one now (it also doesn't fit the maintenance mode).

Lastly the question would be: who is going to create the textures?

[temhotaokeaha]

MTG is still presented as default game

Yes, is that changing any time soon though?

doesn't fit maintenance mode

This wouldn't require any code changes and nothing fundamentally new would be added, seems pretty fitting to me.

Subjective opinions

Fair point, we could run a poll.

I'd rather not do one now

Okay, but should there be a complete consensus on this or how does the PR approval work exactly?

who is going to create the textures?

Me.

[rubenwardy]

I think two compelling reasons to replace all the MTG textures is that you can:

1. ensure they're all original, created by one person (who you can make sure understands copyright), and licensed correctly
2. make it more visually distinct from certain existing games (although, this would cause mods to look more inconsistent than they already do, but oh well)

But for 1, we could do an audit of the textures.

[sfan5]

Yes, is that changing any time soon though?

Hopefully: minetest/minetest#13550

Okay, but should there be a complete consensus on this or how does the PR approval work exactly?

Basically two MTG devs have to agree on a PR for it to get merged.
There will just be lots of discussion if you plan something as large as replacing every texture.

[tenplus1]

The textures are fine for a base game and many texture packs exist in the Content tab for preview and download to suit everyone's taste.

[temhotaokeaha]

Hopefully: minetest/minetest#13550

(from discord)
TEMHOTAOKEAHA: i just came here with the proposal of texture overhaul and everybody collectively decided to finally flush MTG down the toilet
GreenXenith: [...] it may be more likely for MTG to start accepting new features as it wont be tied as much to the engine

Green made a good point so since it's finally happening let's come back to textures once the dust from decoupling MT/MTG settles.