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[KRAKEN] Rewrite learning objectives #68

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toolness opened this issue Apr 30, 2015 · 0 comments
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This issue has been migrated from mozilla/learning.mozilla.org#210.

It was originally written by LauraHilliger on Tue Mar 10 2015 and had the following description:

Many did not feel that learners would gain enough based on this activity to credential for credibility competency

On Fri Mar 13 2015, dajbelshaw commented:

Will need a bit more detail to action this. Are we changing the activity or just the learning objectives?

On Fri Mar 13 2015, jgmac1106 commented:

I was one of those who said it during club call, but I am biased as I work in this space.

One 45 min activity IMO would not create artifacts that I could justidy credentialing. I don't think a rewrite of objectives would change ny opinion.

When you look at all the skills under credibility Kraken does not result in an artifact suggesting competency of that skill.

Maybe we don't credential after the basics module for some competencies.

On Fri Mar 13 2015, dajbelshaw commented:

So the badge is issued as a result of activities undertaken by learners. If we don't feel like the activities lead to the badge, then we need to change the activities.

I'm happy to rewrite the learning objectives, but if we're not changing the activities it seems a little... pointless?

On Fri Mar 13 2015, jgmac1106 commented:

Yes. You can't change objectives and not alter learning activities.

Why must every activity result in badging? If some credentialing requires a
greater preponderance of evidence could that come after multiple
activities?

Learners need to do Kraken it introduces the skills but I don't think I
would be comfortable as an issuer saying someone who completed Kraken
mastered the skills under the competency.

If I recall the skill level badges were deprecated and we went with just
the competencies. Therefore higher bar.

On Fri, Mar 13, 2015, 6:50 AM Doug Belshaw notifications@github.com wrote:

So the badge is issued as a result of activities undertaken by learners.
If we don't feel like the activities lead to the badge, then we need to
change the activities.

I'm happy to rewrite the learning objectives, but if we're not changing
the activities it seems a little... pointless?


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On Tue Mar 17 2015, LauraHilliger commented:

The artifact is the tip sheet. I guess would agree with **@**jgmac1106 that out of context that tip sheet isn't enough to badge with. But it's not out of context if the educator is reviewing the badge application, right?

The credibility badge asks for 1 of the following:

  1. researching the authorship and ownership of websites and their content
    in Kraken, Groups start by spending 20 minutes researching. The tip sheet asks for authorship, though not ownership (I would argue "ownership" of a website is mostly irrelevant. Ask me why in a web lit call ;)
  2. comparing information from a number of sources to judge their trustworthiness
    in Kraken, we're doing EXACTLY that
  3. discriminating between 'original' and derivative web content
    in Kraken, we're asking "Where does this sites info come from" which IMHO is at least turning in the direction of discriminating b/w content
  4. making judgments based on technical and design characteristics to assess the credibility of information
    Is the Kraken real = judgement

For this issue, should we add LOs on the credibility skills? I think the activity does lead to the badge, just not in a context free environment. Thoughts?

On Tue Mar 17 2015, jgmac1106 commented:

Oh didn't catch the language that you oy need one of the skills in the
competency to meet badge requirements.

If that is case then activity is fine.

On Tue, Mar 17, 2015, 6:54 AM Laura Hilliger notifications@github.com
wrote:

The artifact is the tip sheet. I guess would agree with **@**jgmac1106
https://github.com/jgmac1106 that out of context that tip sheet isn't
enough to badge with. But it's not out of context if the educator is
reviewing the badge application, right?

The credibility badge asks for 1 of the following:

  1. researching the authorship and ownership of websites and their content
    in Kraken, Groups start by spending 20 minutes researching. The tip sheet
    https://docs.google.com/a/zythepsary.com/file/d/0B1vyNnSVEMIDbDVLX1E4ZXRmclE/edit
    asks for authorship, though not ownership (I would argue "ownership" of a
    website is mostly irrelevant. Ask me why in a web lit call ;)
  2. comparing information from a number of sources to judge their
    trustworthiness
    in Kraken, we're doing EXACTLY that
  3. discriminating between 'original' and derivative web content
    in Kraken, we're asking "Where does this sites info come from" which IMHO
    is at least turning in the direction of discriminating b/w content
  4. making judgments based on technical and design characteristics to
    assess the credibility of information
    Is the Kraken real = judgement

For this issue, should we add LOs on the credibility skills? I think the
activity does lead to the badge, just not in a context free environment.
Thoughts?


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On Tue Mar 17 2015, jgmac1106 commented:

Though I could (but won't) argue that the badge requirements need to be
revised. Doing "one of the following" seems strange when we. Have
identified specific skills under competency.

On Tue, Mar 17, 2015, 7:26 AM Greg Mcverry jgregmcverry@gmail.com wrote:

Oh didn't catch the language that you oy need one of the skills in the
competency to meet badge requirements.

If that is case then activity is fine.

On Tue, Mar 17, 2015, 6:54 AM Laura Hilliger notifications@github.com
wrote:

The artifact is the tip sheet. I guess would agree with **@**jgmac1106
https://github.com/jgmac1106 that out of context that tip sheet
isn't enough to badge with. But it's not out of context if the educator is
reviewing the badge application, right?

The credibility badge asks for 1 of the following:

  1. researching the authorship and ownership of websites and their content
    in Kraken, Groups start by spending 20 minutes researching. The tip sheet
    https://docs.google.com/a/zythepsary.com/file/d/0B1vyNnSVEMIDbDVLX1E4ZXRmclE/edit
    asks for authorship, though not ownership (I would argue "ownership" of a
    website is mostly irrelevant. Ask me why in a web lit call ;)
  2. comparing information from a number of sources to judge their
    trustworthiness
    in Kraken, we're doing EXACTLY that
  3. discriminating between 'original' and derivative web content
    in Kraken, we're asking "Where does this sites info come from" which IMHO
    is at least turning in the direction of discriminating b/w content
  4. making judgments based on technical and design characteristics to
    assess the credibility of information
    Is the Kraken real = judgement

For this issue, should we add LOs on the credibility skills? I think the
activity does lead to the badge, just not in a context free environment.
Thoughts?


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On Tue Mar 17 2015, LauraHilliger commented:

i added two LOs reworded from the credibility badges.

LauraHilliger/webmaker-curriculum@9ceba80

**@**jgmac1106 the "one of the following" language is on lots of the Web Lit badges. I think the idea was to have a variety of badges (e.g. "maker: credibility" vs "mentor: credibility"), but I'm not sure where we are on the badge front in general ;)

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