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Tremolo staccato: Default positioning is incorrect when stem points upwards #20106

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Mioriarty opened this issue Nov 20, 2023 · 5 comments
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@Mioriarty
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Mioriarty commented Nov 20, 2023

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Engraving bug (incorrect score rendering)

Bug description

When you write a basic note with its stem pointing upwards and you add tremmolo staccato (so multiple staccato dots below the note head) they get display too close to the node head. When the stem points downwards, this does not happen as seen in the screenshot.
I am on a M2 Macbook Air running Sonoma 14.0.

Steps to reproduce

  1. Add a note to any staff where the stem points upwards
  2. Navigate in paletts to tremelo and add one of the staccato markings in this category.

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Next to every note with tremolo staccato I added a note with regular staccato showing where it should be positioned.

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OS: macOS 14.0, Arch.: x86_64, MuseScore version (64-bit): 4.1.1-232071203, revision: github-musescore-musescore-e4d1ddf

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macOS 14.0

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@oktophonie
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These are not staccatos: they indicate tremolo subdivisions. They are only supposed to appear above notes, where they are generally positioned correctly. See the discussion here: #10000

Not to say that the positioning couldn't be improved in cases where a user insists they go underneath noteheads, at some point.

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@Mioriarty
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Oh I see. But I defeinitely saw it already once as a staccato marking on tremolo (I am pretty sure) So it might actually be great, if the styling could be fixed :)

@oktophonie
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People definitely indicate staccatos that way. But that's not what this symbol is for. (The size of dots doesn't even match normal staccatos)

@Mioriarty
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Yeah, but the proper way if you wanted Staccato tremolo would be just writing an ordinary staccato mark below tremolo note, right?

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SofNotenwart commented Nov 21, 2023

I've never seen so called tremolo dots (amateur violinist since 60 years). What you can have, however, is tremolo with repeated articulation. The latter can be staccato, detache etc.

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