Not usable offline and slow on bad connection

[jancborchardt]

The list of calls and contacts seems to load from the server every time the app is opened. This results in a second at least of unresponsiveness and more on usual mobile connections.

When offline (or in a tunnel or plane) you are not able to view any conversations or messages.

We should cache the

• conversations,
• contacts and
• messages

so loading is instant. Updates from the server can still be fed in when they come.

@mario, and same for iOS app @Ivansss

[kai11]

Why this is closed? This is not working.
v11.1.2 don't show anything (blank list of conversations) when phone in airplane mode.

[szaimen]

Yes, this was only fixed in a different branch. -> reopening

[szaimen]

cc @mahibi @AndyScherzinger

[mahibi]

thanks for reopening @szaimen !
Indeed that's a very important issue that needs to be solved!

[MRFU510N88]

Is this something that is going to be implemented as its been quiet in here since 2018 with no real update as far as I can see?

[AndyScherzinger]

We plan to have this yes, while we don't have a fixed date/release so no ETA. The age of an issue has no implication about a feature being implemented at some point or not.

[MRFU510N88]

I appreciate that,

The purpose of my previous comment was to shed some light on whether there were any plans to implement this as there was no definitive responses to support any development having taken place.

I'm sure most will agree this request is a primary feature of any messaging platform and NC Talk would benefit from the ability.

Thank you for your consideration.

[AndyScherzinger]

The purpose of my previous comment was to shed some light on whether there were any plans to implement this as there was no definitive responses to support any development having taken place.

Thanks for the hint, I labelled it accordingly now 👍

I'm sure most will agree this request is a primary feature of any messaging platform and NC Talk would benefit from the ability.

Absolutely while it is hard to say when it is getting implemented since there are usually other features one might also consider primary features :)

[mokazemi]

I've read in Nextcloud Talk V9.0 change log that it has offline support.

But I see something like this when I open the Android app without internet connection. Is this something related to discussed issue?

[dinesh-dot-com]

Hi, every one i have a plan to make the content visible even on offline. But i can't able to edit that file. it show that it was read only file. I'm using android studio it not allowing me to edit such file. some buddy help me to make it as writeable file.

At classes.jar/coil/network/NetworkObservance.kt we can able to make the application to viewable on offline but confusing the condition statement. so help me friends.

[AndyScherzinger]

Hi @DineshRefex thanks for taking an interest in this matter, this is highly appreciated. To comment on your approach, I believe it is not the right way to change a 3rd party library in use (in this case coil) but rather to find a way to cache the files to disc in case they had been loaded before.

Cc @mahibi @timkrueger in case you are aware of any caching on place already when loading files through coil (or any other approach in place)

[dinesh-dot-com]

Thanks for the reply bro @AndyScherzinger , what is the possibility for offline mode.

[AndyScherzinger]

Would need to look into what coil can do, or you might be able to look into coil and if it offers some caching capabilities. I am currently afk for the week.

[timkrueger]

Hello @DineshRefex .Thank you very much for your interest to implement offline support.

Offline support is a major architectural and behavioral change to the app. There's so many things that can go wrong design-wise and functionality-wise. For that an experienced Android developer with a good understanding of Talk is needed. Unfortunately, this is not suited for first time contributors, and is something we want to tackle ourselves.

If you're interested beside this issue to contribute to NC Talk for Android, your help is very welcome. And we're happy to help starting. Good issues to start a labeled with good first issue.

[dinesh-dot-com]

Thanks, I will check it out

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[dinesh-dot-com]

I'm really interested to enable offline mode on nextcloud talk. But I can't able to edit some files because there are read only file. I'm stucked

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[dinesh-dot-com]

Thank you for your help @tim kruger.

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[louim-lbs]

I would like to say that this is the only important missing feature that prevents my collaborators from adopting the application.

Waiting 2-3 seconds when loading the application to see the list of conversations + 2-3 seconds when opening the conversation to see a message, it's definitely too slow...

Other than that, everything else is great!

[rriemann]

Dear all,

when staff members install Nextcloud Talk on private devices, chats and files belonging to the organisation become difficult to control and to keep secure. So having no caching is in that moment a security advantage. Please consider this when implementing caching. At best, the nextcloud server could impose a policy on caching that mobile clients respect.

[louim-lbs]

This security "feature" is indeed interesting, I didn't think about it.

This could be an option configurable by the admin, maybe for each user and/or each conversation.