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Node.js Foundation Technical Steering Committee (TSC) Meeting 2018-04-04 #516

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mhdawson opened this issue Apr 2, 2018 · 17 comments
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mhdawson commented Apr 2, 2018

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UTC Wed 04-Apr-2018 17:00 (05:00 PM):

Timezone Date/Time
US / Pacific Wed 04-Apr-2018 10:00 (10:00 AM)
US / Mountain Wed 04-Apr-2018 11:00 (11:00 AM)
US / Central Wed 04-Apr-2018 12:00 (12:00 PM)
US / Eastern Wed 04-Apr-2018 13:00 (01:00 PM)
London Wed 04-Apr-2018 18:00 (06:00 PM)
Amsterdam Wed 04-Apr-2018 19:00 (07:00 PM)
Moscow Wed 04-Apr-2018 20:00 (08:00 PM)
Chennai Wed 04-Apr-2018 22:30 (10:30 PM)
Hangzhou Thu 05-Apr-2018 01:00 (01:00 AM)
Tokyo Thu 05-Apr-2018 02:00 (02:00 AM)
Sydney Thu 05-Apr-2018 03:00 (03:00 AM)

Or in your local time:

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Agenda

Extracted from tsc-agenda labelled issues and pull requests from the nodejs org prior to the meeting.

nodejs/node

  • Tracking Issue for Runtime Deprecation of Buffer constructor #19079
  • buffer: do deprecation warning outside node_modules #19524
  • crypto: add support for AES-CCM #18138
  • stream: 'readable' have precedence over flowing #18994

nodejs/TSC

  • Tracking issue for updating TSC on Board Meetings #476
  • Strategic Initiatives - Tracking Issue #423

nodejs/modules

  • Upstream changes to ESM in nodejs/node #42

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The agenda comes from issues labelled with tsc-agenda across all of the repositories in the nodejs org. Please label any additional issues that should be on the agenda before the meeting starts.

Joining the meeting

https://zoom.us/j/441168935
Same password as usual

Public participation

We stream our conference call straight to YouTube so anyone can listen to it live, it should start playing at https://www.youtube.com/c/nodejs+foundation/live when we turn it on. There's usually a short cat-herding time at the start of the meeting and then occasionally we have some quick private business to attend to before we can start recording & streaming. So be patient and it should show up.

Many of us will be on IRC in #node-dev on Freenode if you'd like to interact, we have a Q/A session scheduled at the end of the meeting if you'd like us to discuss anything in particular. @nodejs/collaborators in particular if there's anything you need from the TSC that's not worth putting on as a separate agenda item, this is a good place for that

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addaleax commented Apr 2, 2018

Tracking Issue for Runtime Deprecation of Buffer constructor #19079

Once again, it would be cool if I could remind people that nodejs/node#19524 could really use some TSC review, otherwise it might just not happen (not an outcome I would mind, but this general approach is what we decided on, I think…)

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bmeck commented Apr 2, 2018

I'd like to add a small agenda item to discuss if we can unblock Zones which was blocked a long while ago due to signals from Node before we had as good documentation on process / decisions. Just want to give a small 10minute presentation and see if blocking it based upon having Error handling is still true since Promises are becoming more used and have similar concerns.

CC: @trevnorris

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@bmeck the fact zones is blocked is well documented and due to the same reason domains are deprecated. This decision has been revisited twice already like here: #340 - what chanced since last time?

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gibfahn commented Apr 3, 2018

This decision has been revisited twice already like here: #340 - what chanced since last time?

I don't know the history, but given the last comment in that thread, revisiting seems reasonable:

#340 (comment)

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mcollina commented Apr 3, 2018

I think a short presentation would be nice. It’s important to note that the diagnostics wg is looking at modeling the async context as well, and I see providing a context local storage implementation a need for the platform.

The concerns about error handling and performance remains.

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trivikr commented Apr 3, 2018

The nomination of @mafintosh was announced during the meeting on 2018-03-28 (#513) and he will be onboarded by @jasnell as per update in nodejs/node/issues/19148
This can be removed from agenda.

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Trott commented Apr 3, 2018

This can be removed from agenda.

You are no doubt correct that it does not need to be on the agenda. However, for very good reasons, no one is permitted to remove an agenda item except the person who added it in the first place. So @mcollina has to remove it. Otherwise, we'll have to spend 7 seconds on it during the meeting. (Might not be the worst use of time to celebrate an onboarding.)

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mcollina commented Apr 3, 2018

@Trott done!

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Trott commented Apr 3, 2018

Adding nodejs/node#19524. I anticipate a call for a vote and a need to act quickly, so please review that PR if you have not done so already.

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trivikr commented Apr 3, 2018

@Trott That's why I listed it as an observation and didn't tag anyone for action item.
Thanks for tagging @mcollina

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Trott commented Apr 4, 2018

Adding nodejs/node#18138 to the agenda. It needs a second TSC reviewer besides @jasnell. Adding it to the agenda solely to identify someone who can review it soon-ish. If a TSC member reviews it between now and the meeting, it can be removed from the agenda.

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mcollina commented Apr 4, 2018

Adding nodejs/node#18994 for the same reason.

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mhdawson commented Apr 4, 2018

@bmeck are you ready to have it on today's agenda or should we plan for next week?

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fhinkel commented Apr 4, 2018

Sorry, can't make it today. Last minute scheduling conflict

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mhdawson commented Apr 4, 2018

@bmeck at this point maybe next week makes the most sense. What do you think?

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Trott commented Apr 4, 2018

Moderation Team update: No actions taken this week. @nodejs/tsc @nodejs/community-committee @nodejs/moderation

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mhdawson commented Apr 4, 2018

PR for minutes #517, probably needs some fix up as its a quick cut/paste.

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