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Remove China-related issues #6509

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Qu3tzal opened this issue Oct 30, 2019 · 112 comments
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Remove China-related issues #6509

Qu3tzal opened this issue Oct 30, 2019 · 112 comments

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@Qu3tzal
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Qu3tzal commented Oct 30, 2019

List of issues that may be China-related :
#6286
#6287
#6288 is not China related.
#6289 is not really related but still mentions Uyghurs
#6290
#6291
#6292 - 404
#6293
#6294
#6295
#6296
#6297
#6298
#6299
#6300
#6301
#6302
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#6310
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#6333
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#6336
#6337 is technically not related, but from the context you can guess it is
#6338
#6339
#6340
#6341
#6342
#6343
#6344
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#6350
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#6364
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#6373 should stay ? I guess
#6374
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#6379
#6380
#6381
#6382
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#6384
#6385
#6386 - 404
#6387
#6388
#6389
#6390
#6391 - 404
#6392 - 404
#6393
#6394 - 404
#6395
#6396
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#6398
#6399
#6400
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#6484
6485 is not China related.
#6486
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@NainbowCat
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wow this is intense
thanks for organizing

@reyqn
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reyqn commented Oct 30, 2019

Is the regime in your country so fragile that you have to defend it so vehemently?

@Qu3tzal
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Qu3tzal commented Oct 30, 2019

No, I don't care actually. This is freedom of speech. That you accept the author's ideas or not is not our problem. If you don't agree, fork and maintain your own Notepad++, rebase with every commit from here and even add pro-China comments in it if you want.

@sjennison
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FYI #6485 appears to be a legit bug report caught in the mess

@dongyingt
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公道自在人心,正义终将到来。

@alexinea
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#6288 has nothing to do with the Chinese topic. I just advise the Notepad++ author to focus on the technical field and not to cross technical and political issues.

I recommend @Qu3tzal to persuade Notepad++ authors to remove this article

@NainbowCat
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Is the regime in your country so fragile that you have to defend it so vehemently?

a slave thinks he speaks in his master's behalf, this is what happened.

@alexinea
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Is the regime in your country so fragile that you have to defend it so vehemently?

Americans love the United States and Chinese love China. What do you want to say?

@CannibalKush
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this is not what you should care
You should think about why someone annoyed us
Is this the way you foreigners always use, double standards?

Speak English or fuck off.
Can America please nuke China already? I fully advocate for the destruction of you and all other pro-China "people".
Either disconnect yourself, accept being disconnected, eat shit.

then you can try it ,see who will go die first

This is a threat of violence and this user should be banned.

@alexinea
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a slave thinks he speaks in his master's behalf, this is what happened.

Can you publish such racist remarks in the United States?

@alex-kinokon
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@alexinea Yes. Have you heard of Fox News?

@Qu3tzal
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Qu3tzal commented Oct 30, 2019

@sjennison Thanks I was looking for it.
@alexinea This is a full debate but the author here still has ownership of his work.
@CannibalKush Both should be banned.

I need to remove the ones that are already deleted, they are 404 links.

@CannibalKush
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This is a threat of violence and this user should be banned.

See how wonderful! double standard has been used so perfect rubbish!!!

threatening violence against other people is not protected by freedom of speech - but i guess you wouldn't know that.

@alexinea
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@alexinea Yes. Have you heard of Fox News?

No matter what media organization, their news is not necessarily true. We must be good at thinking independently, not being influenced by the ruling party and the media. Do you think it is right?

@CannibalKush
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I'll take the angrily from Chinese, thanks lol

@CannibalKush
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threatening violence against other people is not protected by freedom of speech - but i guess you wouldn't know that.

And Abusing others should be sent to jail lol

Yeah, like your government abuses the Uyghurs.

@alexinea
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@sjennison Thanks I was looking for it.
@alexinea This is a full debate but the author here still has ownership of his work.
@CannibalKush Both should be banned.

I need to remove the ones that are already deleted, they are 404 links.

They should be removed. The topic of technology sites should not involve politics.

The political content of Notepad++ official website should also be deleted together.

What do you think?

@reyqn
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reyqn commented Oct 30, 2019

Is the regime in your country so fragile that you have to defend it so vehemently?

Americans love the United States and Chinese love China. What do you want to say?

Well people criticizing the US regime, for example, don't get nearly that much backlash. But yeah, there are stupid people everywhere. Nothing anybody can do about that.

@alex-kinokon
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alex-kinokon commented Oct 30, 2019

and what you have said has touched our baseline.

@penghubingzhou I can’t believe I’m quoting Ben Shapiro, but facts don’t care about your feelings.

@CannibalKush
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@sjennison Thanks I was looking for it.
@alexinea This is a full debate but the author here still has ownership of his work.
@CannibalKush Both should be banned.
I need to remove the ones that are already deleted, they are 404 links.

They should be removed. The topic of technology sites should not involve politics.

The political content of Notepad++ official website should also be deleted together.

What do you think?

The founder of N++ has the fullest right to express his politcal beliefs without fear of retaliation from an angry mob.

@alexinea
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Is the regime in your country so fragile that you have to defend it so vehemently?

Americans love the United States and Chinese love China. What do you want to say?

Well people criticizing the US regime, for example, don't get nearly that much backlash. But yeah, there are stupid people everywhere. Nothing anybody can do about that.

This needs to be based on a foundation that is to criticize the truth, not on things that are not proven.

@alex-kinokon
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alex-kinokon commented Oct 30, 2019

I'm Uyghurs

@penghubingzhou Uyghur names are not romanized in pinyin. Not even on their official documents. Astrosurfing?

@sjennison
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@alexinea what the author says on their website is their choice, as it is their public platform. People say all sorts of hateful and terrible things on their own sites all the time, and if the "public opinion" decides that's too much for them, they stop going to that site.

Spamming an unrelated website, in direct violation of that site's rules, is both ineffective and will quickly be deleted.

If there's truly this much trouble over this decision, that discussion can be had, but GitHub is not the place to do it. Nor is it the place to display blatant racism, as some of the comments have. That is against GitHub's rules and will not help anything.

@alexinea
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@sjennison Thanks I was looking for it.
@alexinea This is a full debate but the author here still has ownership of his work.
@CannibalKush Both should be banned.
I need to remove the ones that are already deleted, they are 404 links.

They should be removed. The topic of technology sites should not involve politics.
The political content of Notepad++ official website should also be deleted together.
What do you think?

The founder of N++ has the fullest right to express his politcal beliefs without fear of retaliation from an angry mob.

The premise of free critique is to criticize the truth, rather than criticizing it based on unconfirmed news.

Freedom of speech does not mean anything can be said.

@reyqn
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reyqn commented Oct 30, 2019

Is the regime in your country so fragile that you have to defend it so vehemently?

Americans love the United States and Chinese love China. What do you want to say?

Well people criticizing the US regime, for example, don't get nearly that much backlash. But yeah, there are stupid people everywhere. Nothing anybody can do about that.

This needs to be based on a foundation that is to criticize the truth, not on things that are not proven.

Do you mean the Uyghur claims are totally unfounded and nothing about it is remotely true?

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what the author says on their website is their choice, as it is their public platform. People say all sorts of hateful and terrible things on their own sites all the time, and if the "public opinion" decides that's too much for them, they stop going to that site.

Spamming an unrelated website, in direct violation of that site's rules, is both ineffective and will quickly be deleted.

If there's truly this much trouble over this decision, that discussion can be had, but GitHub is not the place to do it. Nor is it the place to display blatant racism, as some of the comments have. That is against GitHub's rules and will not help anything.

What you said makes sense. None of us should discuss this issue on github.

@dartraiden
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dartraiden commented Oct 30, 2019

You should think about why someone annoyed us

Spam, DDoS and other dirty things must be stopped, no matter who they come from. If you do not agree with your opponent, convince him with arguments, but not with violence.

@CannibalKush
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@sjennison Thanks I was looking for it.
@alexinea This is a full debate but the author here still has ownership of his work.
@CannibalKush Both should be banned.
I need to remove the ones that are already deleted, they are 404 links.

They should be removed. The topic of technology sites should not involve politics.
The political content of Notepad++ official website should also be deleted together.
What do you think?

The founder of N++ has the fullest right to express his politcal beliefs without fear of retaliation from an angry mob.

The premise of free critique is to criticize the truth, rather than criticizing it based on unconfirmed news.

Freedom of speech does not mean anything can be said.

At risk of getting political, the treatment of Uyghurs in China is in no way unconfirmed news.

@clavinet
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You should think about why someone annoyed us

fun fact: this isn't China here and people can say what they want. Being so mad you open 1000 issues just shows how utterly pathetic you people are.

@sjennison
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@alexinea thank you for understanding.

@xezno
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xezno commented Oct 30, 2019

It's a bit sad that Microsoft doesn't seem to offer proper anti spam measures though.

While it is disappointing, you could still argue that it hasn't actually been 100% necessary until now because events like this don't really occur that often.

@Qu3tzal
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Qu3tzal commented Oct 30, 2019

@jdabs Not contributors to this repo but others. For example this user: https://github.com/AndroidLMY has a "true" account history but spammed issue (the #6481)

@protonchang
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What exactly is going on here?

@xezno
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xezno commented Oct 30, 2019

What exactly is going on here?

People (mainly from China) are getting worked up over a recent controversial release of Notepad++ but instead of fostering clean discussion have taken to spamming multiple new issues, containing death threats and vulgar behaviour / language, instead.

@Qu3tzal
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Qu3tzal commented Oct 30, 2019

@protonchang Notepad++ released the last version with the title "Free Uyghurs", pro-Chinese people came and spammed the issues (1500~2000 issues created in ~10h) and it got sometimes pretty heated in the comments of these issues. This issue was then created to try to sort out the true issues and the spam ones but it got unmanageable. Then a lot of arguing happened here between (mainly) a pro-China (who got later banned) and other users.

@protonchang
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@Qu3tzal @xezno
I see. Thanks for the tip.

It shouldn't take too much time to clean those spam issues.

@yookoala
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In the free countries around the world, people are free to express political views wherever they want. Its not unheard of that you'd see protest in sport events, or political views in commercial product.

And inheritently open sources software movement, which centered on the people's freedom and right to access programming software and knowledge, is deeply political. People fight for years for a world where you can make phones with a free and open source system (Android). This is politics in action.

In the spirit of supporting freedom of other fellow human being, it is a respectful move to name a software release as an endorsement to freedom of people.

It is only childish to say that an open source developer is bound to separate politics and technology.

@trn1ty
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trn1ty commented Oct 30, 2019

What ? are you saying you're commenting about something you don't understand ?

If I found that my understanding was incorrect I would have edited my comment on the matter.

@Mikotochan
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公道自在人心,正义终将到来。

eeeeeeeeh, not really

@Ratstail91
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You know. I have an idea. To show how wrong people are about China you should go out in the streets, talk to people and post a video about what locals say about the situation especially the Uyghur since they're the subject of this particular conflict. Post it on youtube and add subtitles in English so people can understand. I'm sure you'll have this misunderstanding cleared up in no time.

Good idea,But u know? Some of my Adams have done for that. Guess what? the video has been deleted. It means somebody don't want us to show that.

Chinese people have access to youtube now?

nope,but can access by VPN. I'm also the one in it.

VPN usage to evade the blocks is legal in China?

so many questiones, you should first learn China then to judge it.

I'm asking questions. Not judging. Isn't asking questions a natural step of learning?

Not in China.

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hinlong commented Nov 21, 2019

贵国的政权如此脆弱,以至于您必须如此激烈地捍卫它吗?

如果有人说帮印第安人建国,不知道北美的白狗黑狗们怎么想。在以自由言论为借口发布一些不正当言论的时候想想,为什么那么多人恶心你们

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changev commented Nov 21, 2019

Is the regime in your country so fragile that you have to defend it so vehemently?

Americans love the United States and Chinese love China. What do you want to say?

Well people criticizing the US regime, for example, don't get nearly that much backlash. But yeah, there are stupid people everywhere. Nothing anybody can do about that.

This is not about criticizing. This is about criticizing based on truth or delusion. I can make sure that most of the Chinese(include myself) will support you or this author if the criticizing is based on truth.
Please understand that all these people are angry with bias and misinterpreted facts but not the criticizing itself.

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changev commented Nov 21, 2019

In the free countries around the world, people are free to express political views wherever they want. Its not unheard of that you'd see protest in sport events, or political views in commercial product.

And inheritently open sources software movement, which centered on the people's freedom and right to access programming software and knowledge, is deeply political. People fight for years for a world where you can make phones with a free and open source system (Android). This is politics in action.

In the spirit of supporting freedom of other fellow human being, it is a respectful move to name a software release as an endorsement to freedom of people.

It is only childish to say that an open source developer is bound to separate politics and technology.

No need to to separate politics and technology.
The author can express political views. So I think the others can express agreed or disagreed views.
If only the author can express but forbid the others, this is dictatorial but not free.

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Bluedz commented Jan 9, 2020

What an offensive title ! Stop do this, do you know how many people in china.?how many chinese people even never know what happened here?This's a thoroughly discriminatory and unfair title. shame on you!
If someone has right to say anything include humiliating the other's ethnic group, then he should be ready to bear the anger of the other side!

@Qu3tzal
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Qu3tzal commented Jan 9, 2020

@Bluedz Asking to remove "China-related issues" meant removing both issues that were pro-China and anti-China. It's not discriminatory nor unfair.

@Bluedz
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Bluedz commented Jan 9, 2020

@Bluedz Asking to remove "China-related issues" meant removing both issues that were pro-China and anti-China. It's not discriminatory nor unfair.

@Qu3tzal
If so, I think your intention is correct.
But I must point out that I think your title is too simple and broad, and very misleading. And I think the title is disrespectful to my country, especially who actually created the conflict? Maybe I am more sensitive, but this is the real feeling as a Chinese! So I hope you can modify the title, at least to describe your meaning more completely. This is not excessive!

@Bluedz
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Bluedz commented Jan 9, 2020

@Qu3tzal
More I want say:
I don't hope this method() to actually lead to: political attacks can be launched freely, but the opposition must be collectively suppressed. Only insulting speech can be stopped.

I think we should adhere to the principle that technology is not affected by politics. But what happened should be treated fairly. It would be unjust to abolish the victim's right to express anger, let alone let the initiator continue his actions without responsibility (especially if the truth has not yet been confirmed).
I want the technological world to be independent of politics. We should be magicians who can change the world, not politically motivated activists. Show more code instead of more words!

@Qu3tzal
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Qu3tzal commented Jan 9, 2020

pro China + anti China = (pro+anti) China
pro + anti = 1
1 China = China

Therefore the title is correct.

More seriously, this issue is closed. There is no need to edit the title.

It would be unjust to abolish the victim's right to express anger

We actually did not. Some pro-China commenters were not insulting and multiple debates ensued, in respect of free speech. Only the insulting and spamming pro- and anti-China commenters where reported/banned.

technology is not affected by politics

Even if we would like that to be true, as all human interactions, it is affected by politics.

@Bluedz
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Bluedz commented Jan 10, 2020

pro China + anti China = (pro+anti) China
pro + anti = 1
1 China = China

Therefore the title is correct.

More seriously, this issue is closed. There is no need to edit the title.

It would be unjust to abolish the victim's right to express anger

We actually did not. Some pro-China commenters were not insulting and multiple debates ensued, in respect of free speech. Only the insulting and spamming pro- and anti-China commenters where reported/banned.

technology is not affected by politics

Even if we would like that to be true, as all human interactions, it is affected by politics.

All right, all right...

At the same time, please allow me to add a star to your code!

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tonyqus commented Jun 10, 2023

@NainbowCat Alexinea is a senior little pink (小粉红). I have investigated this guy since late 2020 because he cyberbullyed me and my open source project NPOI in 2020. The readme of dotnetcore.npoi was drafted and merged by Alexinea.

He is the core member of an evil open source organization called .NET Core Community. He also created a repo called software backlist references.
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Here is the key commit from him
EarsEyesMouth/software-blacklist-references@c51dad3

Rude tweets and weibo from this guy

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Although he persuade others not to involve politics into tech world, he is doing the same thing.

@Bluedz
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Bluedz commented Jun 11, 2023

@NainbowCat Alexinea is a senior little pink (小粉红). I have investigated this guy since late 2020 because he cyberbullyed me and my open source project NPOI in 2020. The readme of dotnetcore.npoi was drafted and merged by Alexinea.

He is the core member of an evil open source organization called .NET Core Community. He also created a repo called software backlist references.

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Here is the key commit from him

EarsEyesMouth/software-blacklist-references@c51dad3

Rude tweets and weibo from this guy

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Although he persuade others not to involve politics into tech world, he is doing the same thing.

需要政治斗争的地方去斗吧,这里真得不想看到这些,也不该看到这些吧!

@tonyqus
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tonyqus commented Jun 11, 2023

@Bluedz 你是不是gitee这种需要审查的平台用惯了,Github之所以成为全球第一的平台就是因为包容和内容多样,也包括非代码的repo,不信你可以投诉试试,看看Github管不管。

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Bluedz commented Jun 11, 2023

你的回复充满了被管的欲望,另我觉得有些讽刺!好吧,如果你觉得我多说无益,敬请无视!我之所以关注这个项目,是因为我确实这是一个令人赞叹的技术成果,我希望这方天地可以更纯粹!

@tonyqus
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tonyqus commented Jun 11, 2023

原来是友军啊,哈哈哈,是我不好。我是想表达github是很自由的,这项目是不错,作者是台湾同胞,我一直觉得他挺了不起的。

@KnIfER
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KnIfER commented Oct 9, 2023

Why not : Stand with nuclear water

@tonyqus
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tonyqus commented Oct 9, 2023

Why not : Stand with nuclear water

你知道吗?10.1期间中国飞往日本的航班都是满的。贫穷限制了你的想象。

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