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Lords Spiritual #483

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Floppy commented Mar 16, 2017

Hell yeah. I thought this was already in, actually.

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Floppy commented Mar 16, 2017

This might be better in the "cut the numbers" section, as we could just remove the Lords Spiritual in that process, but it can move later.

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Xyleneb commented Mar 19, 2017

"I think that vast constitutional changes; such as implementing a house of citizens, or abolishing every last one of the bishops, will scare the old people. It'll scare me too probably."

There's no point in vast constitutional reform that you cannot hope to implement.
It's unsatisfying compromises or it's nothing. I'm sorry, fellow republicans.

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I think we need a bigger "YES" button...

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ghost commented Mar 20, 2017

"I think that vast constitutional changes; such as implementing a house of citizens, or abolishing every last one of the bishops, will scare the old people. It'll scare me too probably."

There's no point in vast constitutional reform that you cannot hope to implement. It's unsatisfying compromises or it's nothing. I'm sorry, fellow republicans.

The way I look at it, the church and state can be entirely detached as a realistic goal, and to do so would be a positive thing. You are free to have a dissenting opinion. Being that this isn't actually a criticism of the specific change of removing the CoE Lords but moreso the nature of the change, I can't say much more than that. Unless you consider the reduction in Lord numbers a constitutional change.

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Xyleneb commented Mar 20, 2017

The way I look at it, the church and state can be entirely detached as a realistic goal, and to do so would be a positive thing. You are free to have a dissenting opinion. Being that this isn't actually a criticism of the specific change of removing the CoE Lords but moreso the nature of the change, I can't say much more than that. Unless you consider the reduction in Lord numbers a constitutional change.

Just to be clear I thought that the Bishops and the 'Lords Spiritual' were the same thing. I'm still not sure if they are or not.

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ghost commented Mar 21, 2017

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lords_Spiritual - ya could've searched it buddy, but here ya go.

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Floppy commented Mar 24, 2017

This entire page is about massive constitutional reform. It's kind of the whole point :)

It's written as a series of reforms though, one after another, so that it doesn't propose changing everything at once. Because yes, that would be impossible.

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I am all for separation of the church and state

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@Floppy Floppy merged commit 524da39 into openpolitics:master Apr 27, 2017
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