Remove Hobby Shop preset

[maro-21]

...because no one knows what it is. See Wiki: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dhobby
My hobby is OpenStreetMap - would I buy a map in a Hobby Store?:)

This preset has terms: manga, figurine, model - we already have separate presets for these ones - shop=anime, shop=collector and shop=model.

I suggest addding "hobby" as a term for these presets:

• shop=anime
• shop=bicycle
• shop=boat
• shop=books
• shop=brewing_supplies
• shop=collector
• shop=craft
• shop=doityourself
• shop=fishing
• shop=games
• shop=hunting
• shop=model
• shop=music
• shop=musical_instrument
• shop=outdoor
• shop=scuba_diving
• shop=sports
• shop=toys
• shop=video
• shop=video_games

So one can easily find the right preset.

[quincylvania]

@maro-21 I agree people should use more specific tags if they exist. But it's also useful to have a general category for some cases, as evidenced by the hundreds of uses of the tag. Some shops brand themselves as hobby shops after all—there are five entries in the NSI.

Anyway, you'll need to get more buy-in from the community before we can remove an existing preset like this. You can't just edit the wiki and open an iD issue 😄

[boothym]

Not sure it should be removed but it would definitely help to have the hobby term added to other presets.

I've been looking at this tag recently and there is definitely a large percentage of them which could be tagged as collector, craft or model shops. Though some are hard to classify and could be covered by multiple tags.

From the tag history you can see how the tag doubled in August/September 2018, which seems to be from shops added in Japan, e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5899708383/ - they sell a variety of things. You can also see the increase of usage after the preset was added to iD in June 2019.

Anyway, you'll need to get more buy-in from the community before we can remove an existing preset like this. You can't just edit the wiki and open an iD issue

To be fair, the wiki has described it as an undocumented tag and suggested alternatives for 5 years. Plus, when the hobby presets/brands were added to iD/NSI last year, there was no discussion 😉 openstreetmap/iD@cd1a842

[maro-21]

You can't just edit the wiki and open an iD issue

To be clear - the only thing I did was expanding the list of suggested replacements:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:shop%3Dhobby&diff=2017292&oldid=1806009
Everyone can see how the Wiki page looked like before my edit:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:shop%3Dhobby&action=history
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:shop%3Dhobby&oldid=1806009

when the hobby presets/brands were added to iD/NSI last year, there was no discussion cd1a842

Exactly :)

Some shops brand themselves as hobby shops after all—there are five entries in the NSI.

This has been fixed: osmlab/name-suggestion-index@59d701f

[tyrasd]

I think a good first step would be to make the preset "hidden" (non-searchable), so that people are more inclined towards using the more accurate shop types.

it would definitely help to have the hobby term added to other presets.

👍 good idea!