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Observations on content #5
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Thanks @imagico
Good points, we'll work on this.
Agree this could be a better, more global list. The intention is to have a list of well known organizations that use OSM. Do you want to take a try at producing something more wide ranging?
Good points.
Good points.
We had not done this article previously, since it seemed such a big topic. We'll work on a short starting article on it.
If you have a better list of references here, please share it. This is not meant to be comprehensive, but a short list of the best articles as a starting point.
This guidance was developed by the Advisory Board and shared publicly previously. We could include a mention here that official policy work is ongoing.
Will link to that wiki page. we already mention connecting to local chapters in the article. Note that one purpose of the Welcome Mat overall is to make these resources in the wiki and elsewhere more discoverable. |
Since it was before my time and there is no mailing list archive i can't reliably prove this but no such advise from the Advisory Board as a whole was ever minuted AFAIK, it was publicly presented as being developed by members of the advisory board and despite the clear intention to present this as the position of the Advisory Board it is frankly unlikely considering the composition at that time that it was the consensus position of the Advisory Board. It certainly is not the consensus position now ;-) It would probably be a good idea for the OSMF board to clearly communicate this kind of difference (individual opinions vs. consensus position) to avoid members feeling the need to publicly correct misappropriation of the Advisory Board as a whole by individual members. So i stand by my opinion that including something like this in an official OSMF document would inappropriately prejudice the community process. If you want to include something provisional the only appropriate option would be to use the current DWG draft. |
Thanks for sharing your opinion. |
Any list i could come up with would probably be biased as well. A relatively simple solution would be:
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Well we need something, let's not complicate it. Sounds like a good starting point. But limiting to one per country is probably going to leave out some great ones, so let's not get too weighted down with this. |
Worth noting that this is a document for companies by companies. It would be easy to fall down a load of edge cases and lose a lot of time. 80/20 rule seems good enough here. So for example a simple list of companies that are recognisable is good enough and preferable to an exhausting process where we try to define a complex criteria of what is and isn't included.
My local chapter (OSM UK) is planning to link directly to the Welcome Mat and until we have developed our own roster of developers this section is a big plus for us. Even when we have such a roster, I see no harm in the welcome mat also having a list. Ours will focus on local developers so won't be exhaustive. |
Sorry @RobJN that's not the case. This is a document created by many in OSMF, and while companies are certainly in the audience, others kinds of organizations are too. Reckon this will prove useful to individuals as well. Still agree with 80/20. |
Just want to capture what's remaining from this discussion Working with OpenStreetMap Data
How good is OSM data?
Where do we find a good developer or company to build with OSM?
Who uses OpenStreetMap?
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Regarding How good is OSM data? - i am not very familiar with either the scientific literature in this field or with community projects but there is quite a few literature - just for example look at https://scholar.google.de/scholar?hl=en&q=openstreetmap+data+quality (not all of this is stuff you would want to link to of course - there is a lot of questionable methodology in this field as well). In terms of community projects there is in particular https://regio-osm.de/hausnummerauswertung/ which comes to mind for addresses. For completeness in general there is also https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Completeness. I would suggest to inquire the larger OSM community for input on this subject, maybe collect it on a wiki page and condense the most important points in this section. Regarding Who uses OpenStreetMap? - this should be a cross section of examples, not a ranking of greatness (whatever that means). Including only large companies would for example seem a bad idea since this would not speak to readers from the SME domain. Again i am no particular expert in this field so it might be best to reach out to the wider community for collecting a broad spectrum of examples. |
closing here, opened new tickets to focus on remaining questions |
What is OpenStreetMap?
How do we give back?
Who uses OpenStreetMap?
How can we give money to OpenStreetMap?
How to get in touch
Working with OpenStreetMap Data
How good is OSM data?
Organized Editing in OpenStreetMap
Where do we find a good developer or company to build with OSM?
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