Notes do not talk about the objects in question

[mappingdc]

Notes like:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/162854
http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/162689
http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/132279

Are not very helpful, since you can't be 100% sure what the objects in question are. If they're fixed, for example.

Compared to:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/132271

Which is months old, and there you can see the object in question, which can be ground validated.

But newer notes from MapBox employees seem not to reference the object names anymore, making them harder to work.

[pnorman]

If a comment is tied to a particular object, fixme seems like the logical tag to use, while notes are for more general issues or those reluctant to edit OSM.

[emacsen]

Sorry, the initial request is mine...

[lxbarth]

@pnorman - hm, really? The notes workflow seems useful for both types of issues. I'd love to work with one kind of a workflow with issues that need ground truthing.

@Rub21 - these issues all seem to come from you - can you leave more specific comments?

@emacsen gives a good example. So for instance instead of:

Location of this school seems off

let's use:

Location of Preparatory School seems off.

http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/162689

[pnorman]

@pnorman - hm, really? The notes workflow seems useful for both types of issues. I'd love to work with one kind of a workflow with issues that need ground truthing.

I believe that fixmes and notes are distinct and serve different purposes was the general view when developing the feature.

[Rub21]

@emacsen , @lxbarth, I did not see this before, ok, I will improve these comments,
i have left these comments when i can't found any information about the schools, churchs or important points, but the vast majority of points were assigned on their correct addresses.
like:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/276004179#map=19/40.83400/-73.88651
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/271610663
it's really difficult looking for each by each this point on web, but now this points are in correct place.
about the comments, for next will improve
I think is for comments is it:

[emacsen]

I don't care if it's descriptive notes or a FIXME. I personally prefer notes, but as long as its uniform, I don't care.

I'm unlocking Ruben's account now. Edith still hasn't replied.

[Rub21]

@emacsen , Edith is my team, she and i agree to improve our comments, could you unlocking Edit's account too, will be good if you give me some examples about , how should be the comments.?

[emacsen]

http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/167070 - I commented on, followed by
http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/167076
http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/167080
http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/167090

As for unlocking multiple accounts- the DWG is working on a proposal for organizations such as MapBox and paid mappers- but until then, I've been asked to treat accounts as individuals.

I'm trying to find a way to meet both our needs. I'll unlock the account, but please fix some of these notes...

• Serge

[lxbarth]

@emacsen - does this work for you? http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/167147

[emacsen]

@lxbarth Yeah that works for me. The basic idea is just "Can someone take this note and do something with it?". If the notes contain vague comments, then they're not useful. "This school seems off" is a problem because it doesn't let anyone know what school is in question. Naming the object is a minimum- explaining why it seems to be in the wrong location is even better.

As OSM NYC struggles with holding larger general events, I've been considering a "note hunt" where a few dedicated mappers find a location of the city with a bunch of notes and then go and address them, so descriptive notes are going to be really central in being able to figure out what's wrong. The current set of notes from the MB employees are really not useful in discovering what's wrong with the map.

[lxbarth]

We're good here.