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Sony 8mm Formats

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Sony 8mm Formats

This doc goes over Video8, Hi8 and its transition/phase out format Digital8.

For Digital8 and DV25 capture read Digital Tape Guide.

Sony 8mm Capture Diagrams

Warning

  • Not all 3.5mm TRSS to A/V or L/R/CVBS/GND cables are correct pinout for Sony camcorders, or use standard pinout headphone output ports.

  • Always check that video is not being sent on the audio connection cable this will cause issues with both standard capture and FM RF capture.

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Overview

Conventional Capture Workflow

FM RF Capture Workflow

Combined

Sony 8mm RF Capture

8mm formats multiplex there signals into one path meaning Video/HiFi are on the same test point modulated together making your archives a nice simple 1 file per tape using a single capture device such as a CX Card or DomesDayDuplicator.

RF Capture via Jig

Jig Setup (Camcorder/Portable Players)

Simply visually check your pin amount and buy the correct jig with the links below.

Jigs (Unpopulated) / Jigs (With 2.54mm pins) / Flex Cable 0.5mm Pitch / DuPont to BNC Type 2 USB Power Adapter / Type 1 USB Power Adapter

Check the service manual to see what pins have the RF signal. Like any RF tap a 10uf capacitor (ceramic) may be required in-line to get a workable signal depending on setup and device. Some users on the DD86 Discord have had some trouble with getting good output from the newer Sony camcorders, so what input impendence values are optimal are not quite ironed out yet for the long list of non-tested devices.

What is a Jig?

It is 2 things a flex ribbon cable, and a basic PCB that breaks out the connection points to large test probe points or standard header pins which are not practical to install internally on such small camcorder devices.

The Pitch is the space of the flex ribbon cables contacts, Sony use a 0.5mm pitch on there test point ports.

(With a calliper can measure pitch and length and easily replace most flex cables in devices such as VCRs)

On most Sony Digital8 camcorders that support backwards playback, at the battery area, there is a rubber grommet or screw down plate once removed this exposes the Jig connection point for testing this is normally 16/18/20 pin ribbon connectors with a 0.5mm pitch, readily available and generic breakout boards exist so this is the go-to method for capturing Video8/High8 tape formats, decks however have 2.54mm header pins.

LANC Control

Build your own control interface!

Thanks to Novgorod's Arduino LANC to USB we have a software replacement for LANC decks.

Video8

Tape Format Resolution Tape Speed TV System RF Capture Support Video Decoding Support HiFi Audio Decoding Support
Sony Video8 280 Lines SP/LP 625 PAL Yes Yes* Yes*
Sony Video8 280 Lines SP/LP 525 NTSC Yes Yes* Yes

HI8

Tape Format Resolution Tape Speed TV System RF Capture Support Video Decoding Support HiFi Audio Decoding Support
Sony Hi8 415 Lines SP/LP 625 PAL Yes Yes* Yes*
Sony Hi8 415 Lines SP/LP 525 NTSC Yes Yes* Yes

*HiFi Audio decoding needs refinement. *Video8 decoding is near native, Hi8 decoding is still being refined.

Digital8

Format Sub Sampling Resolution Frame Rate Bitrate Audio Date Code Timecode Interface Analogue Outputs Cross Support
DV25 NTSC 4:1:1 8-bit 720x480 i29.97 25-30mbps PCM 12/16-Bit Yes Sub-Code FireWire 525-Line NTSC 3.58 PAL
DV25 PAL 4:2:0 8-bit 720x576 i25 25-30mbps PCM 12/16-Bit Yes Sub-Code FireWire 625-Line PAL NTSC 4.43 / PAL60

Most but not all Digital8 camcorders had backwards playback support for Video8 & Hi8 and could digitise them to a DV25 stream internally that it outputs via FireWire which it natively uses for recording or more ideally as those formats are analogue you capture via via S-Video & AV breakout cables.

Note

Hi8 Tapes with RCTC data will be automatically converted into standard ancillary DV timecode with DV25 conversion/capture within a Digital8 device.

Warning

Ensure never to "hot plug" FireWire if doing duel capture this can damage equipment, if detection issues then turn camcorder off, then on again, but only plug/unplug live firewire with the playback device off.

Caution

Digital8 uses DV25 a Lossy Compressed codec at NTSC 720x480i29.97 4:1:1 or PAL 720x576i25 4:2:0 witch is not ideal for analogue video.

The minimum archive standard for conventional analogue tape capture with no codec side artefacts is FFV1 8-bit 4:2:2 at 40-60mbps Lossless Compressed but ideally 10-bit 4:2:2 is used for initial capture.

Field Player/Recorders

List of models

Model Type TV System User Manual Service Manual Video8 / Hi8 Support Service Jig Point Tapped & Tested
GV-D800 Digital 8 PAL Not Indexed Not Indexed Yes Unknown None Documented
GV-D200 Digital 8 PAL Not Indexed Not Indexed Yes Unknown None Documented
GV-A500 Hi8 NTSC Not Indexed Not Indexed Yes? Unknown None Documented
GV-500 Video8 NTSC Not Indexed Not Indexed Video8 Unknown None Documented
EV-DT1 Video8 NTSC Not Indexed Not Indexed Video8 Unknown None Documented
GV-8 Video8 PAL Not Indexed Not Indexed Video8 Unknown None Documented

NTSC (29.97i)

Model User Manual Service Manual Video8 / Hi8 Support Service Jig Point Tapped & Tested
DCR-TR7000 Not Indexed Not Indexed Yes Unknown None Documented
DCR-TRV103 Not Indexed Not Indexed Yes Unknown None Documented
DCR-TRV110 Not Indexed Not Indexed Yes Unknown None Documented
DCR-TRV120 Not Indexed Not Indexed Yes Unknown None Documented
DCR-TRV203 Not Indexed Not Indexed Yes Unknown None Documented
DCR-TRV210 Not Indexed Not Indexed Yes Unknown None Documented
DCR-TRV230 Not Indexed Not Indexed Yes Unknown None Documented
DCR-TRV240 Not Indexed Not Indexed Yes Unknown None Documented
DCR-TRV310 Not Indexed Not Indexed Yes Unknown None Documented
DCR-TRV315 Not Indexed Not Indexed Yes Unknown None Documented
DCR-TRV318 Not Indexed Not Indexed Yes 16pin 0.5mm Pitch Yes 100uF Cap Added
DCR-TRV320 Not Indexed Not Indexed Yes Unknown None Documented
DCR-TRV330 Not Indexed Not Indexed Yes Unknown None Documented
DCR-TRV340 Not Indexed Not Indexed Yes Unknown None Documented
DCR-TRV350 Not Indexed Not Indexed Yes Unknown None Documented
DCR-TRV351 Not Indexed Not Indexed Yes Unknown None Documented
DCR-TRV360 Not Indexed Not Indexed Yes Unknown None Documented
DCR-TRV361 Not Indexed Not Indexed Yes Unknown None Documented
DCR-TRV380 Not Indexed Not Indexed Yes Unknown None Documented
DCR-TRV460 Not Indexed Not Indexed Yes Unknown None Documented
DCR-TRV480 Not Indexed Not Indexed Yes Unknown None Documented
DCR-TRV520 Not Indexed Not Indexed Yes Unknown None Documented
DCR-TRV525 Not Indexed Not Indexed Yes Unknown None Documented
DCR-TRV530 Not Indexed Not Indexed Yes Unknown None Documented
DCR-TRV730 Not Indexed Not Indexed Yes Unknown None Documented
DCR-TRV740 Not Indexed Not Indexed Yes Unknown None Documented
DCR-TRV828 Not Indexed Not Indexed Yes Unknown None Documented
DCR-TRV830 Not Indexed Not Indexed Yes Unknown None Documented
DCR-TRV840 Not Indexed Not Indexed Yes 20pin 0.5mm Pitch Yes Direct
DCR-TRV130 Not Indexed Not Indexed No Unknown None Documented
DCR-TRV140 Not Indexed Not Indexed No Unknown None Documented
DCR-TRV150 Not Indexed Not Indexed No Unknown None Documented
DCR-TRV250 Not Indexed Not Indexed No Unknown None Documented
DCR-TRV260 Not Indexed Not Indexed No Unknown None Documented
DCR-TRV265 Not Indexed Not Indexed No Unknown None Documented
DCR-TRV280 Not Indexed Not Indexed No Unknown None Documented

PAL (25i)

These European camcorder models end with an “E”, the list below is backward compatible and can still playback Video8 and Hi8 PAL tapes originally recorded at 25 frames per second.

Again if you are outside the US these are the camcorders for you, and if you can find one of these in the US they should also work for you as they all have duel PAL/NTSC support like most later PAL analogue equipment which is not seen on MiniDV however.

Model User Manual Service Manual Video8 / Hi8 Support FireWire Interface Service Jig Point Tapped & Tested
DCR-TR7000E Not Indexed Not Indexed Yes
DCR-TR7100E Not Indexed Not Indexed Yes
DCR-TRV738E Not Indexed Not Indexed Yes
DCR-TRV320E User Manual Not Indexed Yes Yes Unknown No
DCR-TRV330E Not Indexed Not Indexed Yes Yes Unknown No
DCR-TRV340E Not Indexed Not Indexed Yes
DCR-TRV460E Not Indexed Not Indexed Yes
DCR-TRV461E Not Indexed Not Indexed Yes
DCR-TRV238E Not Indexed Not Indexed Yes Yes 20pin 0.5mm Pitch Yes Direct
DCR-TRV239E Not Indexed Not Indexed Yes
DCR-TRV8000E Indexed Not Indexed Yes Yes 20pin 0.5mm Pitch Yes 10uf Cap Added

Not confirmed.

Model User Manual Service Manual Video8 / Hi8 Support FireWire Interface Service Jig Point Tapped & Tested
DCR-TRV325E Not Indexed Not Indexed Unknown Yes Unknown No
DCR-TRV530E Not Indexed Not Indexed Unknown Yes Unknown No
DCR-TRV430E Not Indexed Not Indexed Unknown Yes Unknown No
DCR-TRV230E Not Indexed Not Indexed Unknown Yes Unknown No
DCR-TRV235E Not Indexed Not Indexed Unknown Yes Unknown No
DCR-TRV325E Not Indexed Not Indexed Unknown Yes Unknown No
DCR-TVR250E Not Indexed Not Indexed No Yes Known No
DCR-TRV255E Not Indexed Not Indexed No Yes Unknown No
DCR-TRV265E Not Indexed Not Indexed No Yes No

Dedicated Recorders/Players

Model / Format / Sound / PCM / DCF / Year / € / Drive Comments

Video 8 PAL

Model Format Support Sound Support Year Price EUR Drive Type Frank Hirsinger's Notes
CCD-V8 V8 o - - 1985 €1500 O originally camcorder; complete VCR, however, with Timer-Tuner Unit TT-V8E
EV-C8 V8 o - - 1985-1986 €900 O first mobile V8 VCR for CCD M8E or as VCR for Timer/Tuner TT-V8E
EV-P10 V8 o - - 1987-1988 €380 O first V8 player (no record function!), designed for camcorder without playback option
EV-A300 V8 o (oo) + - 1986 €850 O with optional PCM Processor (PCM-EV10E) capable of 1 Track PCM
EV-S700 V8 oo 6tr. - 1986 €1400 O identical to EV-S600; rounded front panel
EV-S600 V8 oo 6Dr. - 1987 €1350 O also marketed by Pioneer with some different functions and RC
EV-A200 V8 o - - 1987-1990 €800 O the standard V8 VCR following the 300 model, after the first Multi PCM models were on the market
EV-S650 V8 oo 6tr. - 1988-1989 €1200 O designed especially for DAV PCM recording and playback
EV-S850 V8 oo 6Tr. - 1987-1990 €1500 O Sony's first model with Jog Shuttle
EV-S550 V8 oo st 1Tr. - 1990-1992 €1400 U precursor of the 1000; marks the end of the 6 track DAV standard (5 year run...); built in camcorder power source
EV-C3 V8 o - - 1990-1993 €400 U first handy VCR for cutting and editing videos with a camcorder
EV-C45 V8 st - - 1992-1994 €500 U developed from the C3E, now with stereo sound

Hi8 PAL

Model Format Support Sound Support Year Price EUR Drive Type Frank Hirsinger's Notes
EV-S1000 V8 & Hi8 oo st 1Tr 1990-1994 €1500 U probably the best selling Hi8 video cut VCR with PIP and separated pictures for input and output picture on one screen
EV-S880 V8 & Hi8 st - yes 1993-1994 €1100 U developed from the 1000 with new designed circuit boards for mechanics and electronics
EV-C500 V8 & Hi8 st - - 1993-1998 €700 U first handy hi8 VCR developed from the C45 (long time in the market)
EV-P25 V8 st - - 1994-1995 €380 U inexpensive V8 player (no recorder!)
EV-P300 V8 & Hi8 st - - 1994-1995 €500 U first inexpensive Hi8 player, developed from the P25
EV-C400 V8 & Hi8 st - - 1996-2000 €500 F Hi8 VCR developed from the P series, however with the new F mechanics
EV-C2000 V8 & Hi8 st - yes 1995-2000 €900 F cheap version of the 9000 model, however without the motor driven panel. Capable of viewing and recording the RTC Timecode
EV-S9000 V8 & Hi8 oost 1Tr. yes 1995-1999 €1750 F last PCM VCR with digital pic. improvements like drop-out filter, digital comb filter; RTC ; Time Base Corrector
EV-T1 V8 & Hi8 VHS st - yes 1996-1997 €1650 F Twin Recorder with Hi8 and VHS mechanics; very good picture due to DCF
SLV-T2000 V8 & Hi8 VHSst - - 1997-2001 €1000 F Inexpensive successor of the EV-T1VC

Explanations:

o = HiFi Mono via FM head signal

oo = Stereo via PCM; Mono over FM head signal

st = Stereo sound over polarized FM head signal

PCM = Pulse Code Modulation. Here analogue signals are converted into binary signals. With this method, the carrier signal is in pulse form, the modulation signal is digital.

1Tr = 1 Audio Track.

6tr = 6 Audio Track.

RTC = Sony Re-Writable Consumer Timecode

DNR = Dynamic Noise Reduction = electronic noise reduction: The Dolby noise reduction system is well-known for audio cassette recorders.

DCF = Digital Comb Filter: Enables clean separation of interleaved colour and B/W signals. This prevents colour streaks and unsteady colour edges and enables crystal-clear and precise images.

PCM technology samples the analogue signal 8,000 times per second and converts it into an 8-bit signal, resulting in a sample every 125 µs. The resulting transmission speed is 64 kbit/s.
1 Track is the 1 track PCM method that uses an additional track to dub V8 tapes.

Sound recordings can also be made without a picture 6 track refers to the 6 track PCM process, which is only possible with DAV (Digital Audio Video) devices and enables 6 parallel tracks on one tape. Disadvantage: you can only listen to or record one track at a time. So no real multitrack method!

With the O-drive, the tape is wound counter clockwise around the head drum with a pin.

With the U drive, 2 pins loop the tape around the head drum from both sides and "write" a "U". The F drive is a further development of the U drive. It has a more stable capstan shaft and also offers the option of very fast tape rewinding of just 1 minute (90s cassette) without wrapping around the head drum (tape protection). Some other weaknesses of the U drive have also been skilfully improved!

References

Thanks to Bob Hennessey & Frank Hirsinger for there charts, materials and collected manuals.

https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/355121-List-of-Sony-Handycam-Digital8-camcorders-with-analog-digital-passthru

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