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API: any/all logical operation for datetime-like dtypes #34479

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jorisvandenbossche opened this issue May 30, 2020 · 6 comments · Fixed by #50947
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API: any/all logical operation for datetime-like dtypes #34479

jorisvandenbossche opened this issue May 30, 2020 · 6 comments · Fixed by #50947
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API - Consistency Internal Consistency of API/Behavior Datetime Datetime data dtype Reduction Operations sum, mean, min, max, etc. Timedelta Timedelta data type

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@jorisvandenbossche
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In my attempt to enable DataFrame reductions for ExtensionArrays (and at the same time cleaning up DataFrame._reduce a bit) at #32867, I am running into the following inconsistency.

Consider a Timedelta array, and how it behaves for the any and all logical functions (on current master, bit similar for released pandas):

>>> td = pd.timedelta_range(0, periods=3) 

# Index
>>> td.any() 
...
TypeError: cannot perform any with this index type: TimedeltaIndex

# Series
>>> pd.Series(td).any()  
...
TypeError: cannot perform any with type timedelta64[ns]

# DataFrame
>>> pd.DataFrame({'a': td}).any()
a    True
dtype: bool

(and exactly the same pattern for datetime64[ns])

For DataFrame, it works because there we call pandas.core.nanops.nanany(), and our internal version of nan-aware any/all work fine with timedelta64/datetime64 dtypes.
The reason it fails for Index and Series is because we simply up front say: this operation is not possible with this dtype (we never get to call nanany() in those cases). But in the DataFrame reduction, we simply try it on df.values, and it works.

This is clearly an inconsistency that we should solve. And especially for my PR #32867 this gives problems, as I want to rely on the array (column-wise) ops for DataFrame reductions, but thus those give a differen result leading to failing tests.


The question is thus: do we think that the any() and all() operations make sense for datetime-like data?
(and if yes, we can simply enable them for the array/index/series case)

  • For timedelta, I think you can say there is a concept of "zero" and "non-zero" (which is what any/all are testing in the end, for non-boolean, numeric data)
  • But for datetimes this might make less sense? The fact that 1970-01-01 00:00:00 would be "False" is just an implementation detail of the numbering starting at that point in time.

As reference, this operation fails in numpy for both timedelta and datetime:

>>> np.array([0, 1], dtype="datetime64[ns]").any()
...
TypeError: No loop matching the specified signature and casting was found for ufunc logical_or

>>> np.array([0, 1], dtype="timedelta64[ns]").any() 
...
TypeError: No loop matching the specified signature and casting was found for ufunc logical_or

But for timedeltas, that might rather be an issue of "never got implemented" rather than "deliberately not implemented" ? (there was a similar conversation about "mean" for timedelta) cc @shoyer

@jorisvandenbossche jorisvandenbossche added Datetime Datetime data dtype Numeric Operations Arithmetic, Comparison, and Logical operations Timedelta Timedelta data type API - Consistency Internal Consistency of API/Behavior labels May 30, 2020
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xref #19759

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ATM i lean towards deprecating the nanops behavior and not supporting any/all for either dt64 or td64.

If numpy were to implement it for td64 id be OK with matching that.

We should also look at consistency with tda.astype(bool), which we apparently do support (though looks like Index gives object-dtype whereas DTA/TDA give bool-dtype)

@jreback jreback added this to the 1.2 milestone Nov 11, 2020
@jreback jreback modified the milestones: 1.2, 1.3 Nov 19, 2020
@simonjayhawkins
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@jbrockmendel did #38723 close this?

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no, that ensured consistency between dt64 vs dt64tz, but didn't pin down the desired behavior

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Thanks @jbrockmendel for confirming. I didn't check in detail. Will remove the milestone.

@simonjayhawkins simonjayhawkins removed this from the 1.3 milestone Jun 11, 2021
@mroeschke mroeschke removed the Numeric Operations Arithmetic, Comparison, and Logical operations label Aug 7, 2021
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i propose we deprecate the any/all behavior for dt64/dt64tz, keep it for td64

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