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{"nick":"paddybyers","message":"isaacs: https://github.com/paddybyers/node/issues/19","date":"2011-11-16T00:01:25.826Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"paddybyers: you probably want to post that on https://github.com/joyent/node/issues","date":"2011-11-16T00:01:51.786Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"not on your fork","date":"2011-11-16T00:01:55.563Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"paddybyers","message":"I guess","date":"2011-11-16T00:02:13.169Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"paddybyers: or better yet, make it a pull request.  sign the cla first: http://nodejs.org/cla.html","date":"2011-11-16T00:02:33.953Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"paddybyers","message":"https://github.com/joyent/node/pull/2125","date":"2011-11-16T00:07:46.722Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"node + threads, default joinable or detached?","date":"2011-11-16T13:32:23.123Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"piscisaureus_: does windows make that distinction?","date":"2011-11-16T13:33:08.197Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"i have to say i like that almost everything is waitable on in windows - mutexes, threads, semaphores, sockets, etc.","date":"2011-11-16T13:38:07.035Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"paddybyers","message":"bnoordhuis: are you planning to create a thread abstraction in uv to include things like uv_thread_join?","date":"2011-11-16T13:49:04.407Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"paddybyers: yep","date":"2011-11-16T13:49:12.359Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"though i'm not quite set on uv_thread_join yet","date":"2011-11-16T13:49:33.217Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"indutny","message":"sorry, stupid irccloud","date":"2011-11-16T14:50:58.211Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"just connected","date":"2011-11-16T14:51:00.708Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"indutny: use a real irc client :)","date":"2011-11-16T14:51:16.852Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"haha :)","date":"2011-11-16T14:54:38.144Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"I like offline messages","date":"2011-11-16T14:54:57.410Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"you have a server right?","date":"2011-11-16T14:55:08.026Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"just start irssi in a screen session and reconnect whenever you turn on your machine","date":"2011-11-16T14:55:28.055Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"hm...","date":"2011-11-16T14:57:27.852Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"nice tip","date":"2011-11-16T14:57:42.428Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"thanks","date":"2011-11-16T14:57:49.854Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"ryah: we should fix https://github.com/joyent/libuv/issues/206 ...","date":"2011-11-16T15:16:26.891Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"indutny","message":"heya","date":"2011-11-16T15:26:07.293Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"can you see me?","date":"2011-11-16T15:26:12.813Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"bnoordhuis: ping","date":"2011-11-16T15:26:25.613Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"indutny: pong","date":"2011-11-16T15:26:52.075Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"cool","date":"2011-11-16T15:27:02.514Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"going to restart this thing under non-root :D","date":"2011-11-16T15:27:14.833Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"brb","date":"2011-11-16T15:27:17.143Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"indutny","message":"ok, finally back","date":"2011-11-16T15:30:27.688Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"wow, window switching is interesting","date":"2011-11-16T15:33:00.181Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"kinda odd","date":"2011-11-16T15:33:01.729Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"you mean ctrl-a?","date":"2011-11-16T15:33:49.528Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"what is ctrl-a ?","date":"2011-11-16T15:34:08.668Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"ctrl-p, ctrl-n","date":"2011-11-16T15:34:20.901Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"are we talking about screen or irssi?","date":"2011-11-16T15:34:36.217Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"bnoordhuis: irssi, of course","date":"2011-11-16T15:34:51.986Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"right, i thought it was about screen","date":"2011-11-16T15:35:20.949Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"bnoordhuis: we are debugging node 0.4 dns issues","date":"2011-11-16T15:37:38.487Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"bnoordhuis: we see recvfrom with fd=-1","date":"2011-11-16T15:37:51.070Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"is that a bug?","date":"2011-11-16T15:37:54.613Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"piscisaureus_: depends","date":"2011-11-16T15:38:07.393Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"are there normal cases where you would do that?\\","date":"2011-11-16T15:38:18.022Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"i've observed c-ares doing that for no good reason","date":"2011-11-16T15:38:18.253Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"no, it will always fail with EBADF","date":"2011-11-16T15:38:32.005Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"but why does it do that in the first place","date":"2011-11-16T15:38:50.685Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"it looks fucked up","date":"2011-11-16T15:38:55.133Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"never looked much into it","date":"2011-11-16T15:39:03.377Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"but i can speculate","date":"2011-11-16T15:39:12.942Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"well... no, let's not","date":"2011-11-16T15:39:41.985Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"piscisaureus_: can you describe the issue?","date":"2011-11-16T15:40:42.179Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"bnoordhuis: c-ares randomly fails to look in the hosts file","date":"2011-11-16T15:42:15.349Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"and returns ENOTFOUND","date":"2011-11-16T15:42:19.615Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"but in happens intermittently","date":"2011-11-16T15:42:29.591Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"so sometimes it works (without restarting the process)","date":"2011-11-16T15:42:36.764Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"but we can't (yet?) reproduce it standalone","date":"2011-11-16T15:42:59.450Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"piscisaureus_: what os?","date":"2011-11-16T15:43:12.102Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"solaris","date":"2011-11-16T15:43:15.847Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"hmm, don't know - no immediate, plausible cause comes to mind","date":"2011-11-16T15:44:50.961Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"piscisaureus_: pro tip: compile gdb 6.x and put a breakpoint in the code that returns ENOTFOUND","date":"2011-11-16T15:49:36.438Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"6.x because 7.x doesn't compile on sunos","date":"2011-11-16T15:49:53.065Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"bnoordhuis: can process.stdin have write watcher? https://github.com/joyent/node/blob/v0.4/lib/tty_posix.js#L59","date":"2011-11-16T16:06:13.073Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"as it was having in 0.4.12","date":"2011-11-16T16:06:19.684Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"indutny: write watchers in node have gone the way of the dodo","date":"2011-11-16T16:06:37.994Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"I'm not very deep in new libuv architecture","date":"2011-11-16T16:06:43.247Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"i.e. tasty but extinct","date":"2011-11-16T16:06:47.928Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"ah","date":"2011-11-16T16:06:48.248Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"bnoordhuis: ok","date":"2011-11-16T16:06:54.685Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"bnoordhuis: basically, what can hold libuv's event loop from exiting?","date":"2011-11-16T16:18:20.398Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"some non-zero conters?","date":"2011-11-16T16:18:26.053Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"s/conters/counters","date":"2011-11-16T16:18:29.798Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"indutny: no, active handles that are not uv_unref'd","date":"2011-11-16T16:19:50.617Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"I walso wonder why cares calls ioctl tcgetattr on the hosts file fd","date":"2011-11-16T16:25:52.860Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"^./1:     open64(\"/etc/inet/hosts\", O_RDONLY)             = 6","date":"2011-11-16T16:28:29.950Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"^./1:     fstat64(6, 0x080470B0)                          = 0","date":"2011-11-16T16:28:30.182Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"^./1:     fstat64(6, 0x08046FC0)                          = 0","date":"2011-11-16T16:28:30.183Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"^./1:     ioctl(6, TCGETA, 0x08047060)                    Err#25 ENOTTY","date":"2011-11-16T16:28:30.183Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"^./1:     read(6, \" #   i d e n t\\t \" @ ( #\".., 512)      = 271","date":"2011-11-16T16:28:30.183Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"^./1:     read(6, 0x08543C9C, 512)                        = 0","date":"2011-11-16T16:28:30.413Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"^./1:     llseek(6, 0, SEEK_CUR)                          = 271","date":"2011-11-16T16:28:30.413Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"^./1:     close(6)                                        = 0","date":"2011-11-16T16:28:31.368Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"indutny","message":"bnoordhuis: ok, I think I fixed that","date":"2011-11-16T16:33:23.192Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":":D","date":"2011-11-16T16:33:24.018Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"not sure if I broke anything","date":"2011-11-16T16:33:29.561Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"hehe","date":"2011-11-16T16:33:32.132Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"https://github.com/joyent/node/blob/master/src/tty_wrap.cc#L171","date":"2011-11-16T16:33:59.536Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"just insert uv_unref(uv_default_loop()) right after this line","date":"2011-11-16T16:34:12.106Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"is it correct?","date":"2011-11-16T16:34:23.726Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"bnoordhuis: ?","date":"2011-11-16T16:36:38.665Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"or should I do this somewhere on libuv level?","date":"2011-11-16T16:36:52.810Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"indutny","message":"bnoordhuis: btw, is that bug reproducable on windows?","date":"2011-11-16T16:49:04.765Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"bnoordhuis: anyway, https://github.com/joyent/libuv/pull/251","date":"2011-11-16T17:03:50.681Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"luxigo","message":"how could I enable verbose build (with gcc commands echoed)... ?","date":"2011-11-16T17:11:07.071Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"luxigo","message":"my node internal module build fails now with \"error: exception handling disabled, use -fexceptions to enable\"  ...","date":"2011-11-16T17:13:08.540Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"luxigo","message":"maybe adding -fexceptions could work but cannot try since build commands are not echoed to terminal :-D","date":"2011-11-16T17:13:41.652Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"luxigo","message":" I dont know where to add it in wscript or other makefiles..","date":"2011-11-16T17:14:24.986Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"luxigo","message":"on the other hand i can still revert the folder to a previous git state but if you can help while i try to fix it... :-)","date":"2011-11-16T17:16:43.447Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"luxigo","message":"as I workaround i will just comment out the \"throw\"... but if you can tell me how to do it the nodejs way ...","date":"2011-11-16T17:26:08.839Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"luxigo","message":"(in c++ code)","date":"2011-11-16T17:26:54.083Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"luxigo","message":"maybe http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs/browse_thread/thread/d444acb2c231ad45 answers","date":"2011-11-16T17:30:18.487Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"igorzi","message":"https://github.com/joyent/node/issues/2128","date":"2011-11-16T18:10:36.406Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"igorzi","message":"piscisaureus_: ^--- what do you think?","date":"2011-11-16T18:10:59.641Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"nah I don't know","date":"2011-11-16T18:15:55.032Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"fixing it in the console functions seems to be fine","date":"2011-11-16T18:16:04.470Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"but I am afraid of the slippery slope","date":"2011-11-16T18:16:13.969Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"igorzi","message":"piscisaureus_: seems like it would also need to go into util.js","date":"2011-11-16T18:21:50.235Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"isaacs","message":"piscisaureus_, igorzi: if you're adding \\n, then it ought to add \\r\\n on windows, i think","date":"2011-11-16T18:49:02.058Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"console.* is already a convenience thing","date":"2011-11-16T18:49:13.322Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"what we must not do is magically translate \\n to \\r\\n whenever writing to stdout","date":"2011-11-16T18:49:41.649Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"I agree I think","date":"2011-11-16T18:50:41.905Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"igorzi","message":"isaacs: yep agreed","date":"2011-11-16T18:50:53.126Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"igorzi","message":"what about functions in util.js?","date":"2011-11-16T18:51:53.922Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"like util.inspect you mean?","date":"2011-11-16T18:52:30.495Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"igorzi","message":"util.puts, util.debug","date":"2011-11-16T18:53:13.378Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"ah, yeah","date":"2011-11-16T18:53:21.728Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"yeah, they should do the same thing","date":"2011-11-16T18:53:27.452Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"just use some \"eol\" var instead of \\n","date":"2011-11-16T18:53:38.967Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"and set that to \\r\\n on windows","date":"2011-11-16T18:53:42.467Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"i'm already doing this on npm, so that the debug log is readable","date":"2011-11-16T18:53:55.016Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"igorzi","message":"it'd probably also be useful to export the \"eol\" var","date":"2011-11-16T18:55:00.017Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"igorzi","message":"call today?","date":"2011-11-16T18:57:44.610Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"igorzi","message":"ryah piscisaureus_ bnoordhuis: --^","date":"2011-11-16T18:58:00.534Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"yeah why not","date":"2011-11-16T18:59:30.084Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"yes","date":"2011-11-16T19:02:13.566Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"wait 5 minutes if you want to make me happy","date":"2011-11-16T19:03:09.737Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"bnoordhuis: call?","date":"2011-11-16T19:04:08.134Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"skype or phone?","date":"2011-11-16T19:05:17.153Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"luxigo","message":"what happened with node_native modules ?...  adding modules in node/lib and using _third_party_main.js is not working anymore..","date":"2011-11-16T19:19:24.484Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"ryah","message":"igorzi, piscisaureus_ ","date":"2011-11-16T19:27:23.527Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"ryan@mac1234:~/projects/node% time node benchmark/fast_buffer2_creation.js","date":"2011-11-16T19:27:26.444Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"node benchmark/fast_buffer2_creation.js  0.29s user 0.02s system 96% cpu 0.320 total","date":"2011-11-16T19:27:26.680Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"ryan@mac1234:~/projects/node% time node benchmark/fast_buffer_creation.js ","date":"2011-11-16T19:27:29.628Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"node benchmark/fast_buffer_creation.js  0.46s user 0.02s system 81% cpu 0.592 total","date":"2011-11-16T19:27:32.076Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"ryan@mac1234:~/projects/node% time node benchmark/buffer_creation.js     ","date":"2011-11-16T19:27:34.993Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"node benchmark/buffer_creation.js  2.11s user 0.21s system 94% cpu 2.455 total","date":"2011-11-16T19:27:37.346Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"igorzi: you're obviously free to ignore that last request from me :-)","date":"2011-11-16T19:52:13.577Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"what's due for 0.6.2?","date":"2011-11-16T19:56:27.059Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"indutny: bug fixes","date":"2011-11-16T20:08:00.328Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"fix bugs","date":"2011-11-16T20:08:08.150Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"back","date":"2011-11-16T20:20:17.711Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"indutny: does #251 pass all tests in libuv and node?","date":"2011-11-16T20:20:39.866Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"igorzi, piscisaureus_ : https://gist.github.com/1371250","date":"2011-11-16T20:22:51.604Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"no difference","date":"2011-11-16T20:23:00.990Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"piscisaureus_: i doubt it's c-ares doing the TCGETA ioctl","date":"2011-11-16T20:25:17.166Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"igorzi","message":"ryah piscisaureus_: i'll play with splitting the 1mb buffer into n sub-buffers (as we discussed)","date":"2011-11-16T20:28:25.677Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"piscisaureus_: https://github.com/joyent/node/issues/2036","date":"2011-11-16T20:33:17.797Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"ryah","message":"bnoordhuis: no need to land in both branches - just land in v0.6","date":"2011-11-16T20:53:30.574Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"i'll merge back","date":"2011-11-16T20:53:33.301Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"ryah: oh right, of course","date":"2011-11-16T20:53:50.067Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"bnoordhuis: im close on https://github.com/joyent/libuv/issues/206","date":"2011-11-16T20:54:04.642Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"ryah: what's causing it?","date":"2011-11-16T20:54:35.510Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"https://github.com/joyent/libuv/blob/4ae40b6a3ffcfcfe8b800d0cad216b04cc4d4b6c/src/unix/stream.c#L493","date":"2011-11-16T20:54:36.658Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"https://github.com/joyent/libuv/blob/4ae40b6a3ffcfcfe8b800d0cad216b04cc4d4b6c/src/unix/stream.c#L411","date":"2011-11-16T20:55:00.306Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"ah, lemme guess... req->error is actually an errno?","date":"2011-11-16T20:55:17.973Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"yeah","date":"2011-11-16T20:55:21.575Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"good catch","date":"2011-11-16T20:56:58.578Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"CIA-95","message":"\u0002libuv:\u000f \u000303Ryan Dahl\u000f \u000307v0.6\u000f * r\u00022007eb8\u000f \u000310\u000f/ src/unix/stream.c \u0002:\u000f ","date":"2011-11-16T21:02:50.148Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"CIA-95","message":"\u0002libuv:\u000f Set uv_write_t errno correctly","date":"2011-11-16T21:02:50.386Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"CIA-95","message":"\u0002libuv:\u000f Fixes #206. - http://git.io/NXix2A","date":"2011-11-16T21:02:50.386Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"CIA-95","message":"\u0002node:\u000f \u000303Ryan Dahl\u000f \u000307v0.6\u000f * r\u000244314cc\u000f \u000310\u000f/ (10 files in 5 dirs)\u0002:\u000f Upgrade libuv to 2007eb8 - http://git.io/GNmo3Q","date":"2011-11-16T21:06:34.870Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"it would be nice to have a test for this...","date":"2011-11-16T21:08:02.062Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"but .. hm","date":"2011-11-16T21:08:05.721Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"CIA-95","message":"\u0002node:\u000f \u000303Ryan Dahl\u000f \u000307master\u000f * r\u000244314cc\u000f \u000310\u000f/ (10 files in 5 dirs)\u0002:\u000f Upgrade libuv to 2007eb8 - http://git.io/GNmo3Q","date":"2011-11-16T21:38:30.775Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"ryah","message":"https://groups.google.com/d/topic/nodejs/eVBOYiI_O_A/discussion","date":"2011-11-16T21:39:03.322Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"^-- v0.8 roadmap","date":"2011-11-16T21:39:08.122Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mraleph","message":"isolates, domains, no waf \\o/","date":"2011-11-16T21:41:07.702Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"ryah: i'm not seeing the libuv errno bug fix in node master or 0.6","date":"2011-11-16T21:41:25.394Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"bnoordhuis: uh - hm","date":"2011-11-16T21:44:19.720Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"bnoordhuis: it's there","date":"2011-11-16T21:45:16.240Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"https://github.com/joyent/node/blob/40cb398867b1aae47aa4add04eb5cf7e8bfc131e/deps/uv/src/unix/stream.c#L148","date":"2011-11-16T21:45:16.822Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"ah sorry, i missed it with all that dragonflybsd stuff","date":"2011-11-16T21:52:47.699Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"bnoordhuis: did the dragonflyBSD patch look okay to you?","date":"2011-11-16T21:54:04.475Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"seems pretty minimal to me","date":"2011-11-16T21:54:13.918Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"ryah: yes","date":"2011-11-16T21:54:18.494Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"dragonfly is a fork of freebsd, they're pretty similar","date":"2011-11-16T21:54:34.258Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"igorzi: does `vcbuild nobuild` give you an error too","date":"2011-11-16T22:21:28.176Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"?","date":"2011-11-16T22:21:29.533Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"(on v0.6)","date":"2011-11-16T22:21:41.107Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"igorzi","message":"piscisaureus_: no.. what error do you get?","date":"2011-11-16T22:25:07.390Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"igorzi:","date":"2011-11-16T22:25:49.884Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"D:\\node3>vcbuild.bat nobuild","date":"2011-11-16T22:25:50.901Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"The system cannot find the batch label specified - arg-ok","date":"2011-11-16T22:25:51.115Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"igorzi: the label is there though","date":"2011-11-16T22:25:58.961Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"It works if I insert two blank lines before it","date":"2011-11-16T22:26:07.908Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"otherwise, no luck","date":"2011-11-16T22:26:12.212Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"igorzi","message":"piscisaureus_: hmm.. the only recent change was made by ryah to add upload","date":"2011-11-16T22:29:56.084Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"igorzi: wut. If I remove that line it also works again","date":"2011-11-16T22:33:15.450Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"I put it back, it breaks :-/","date":"2011-11-16T22:33:22.813Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"igorzi","message":"piscisaureus_: wtf? :)  maybe it has \\n instead of \\r\\n as the eol?","date":"2011-11-16T22:35:21.235Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"it has \\n all over the place","date":"2011-11-16T22:35:54.707Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"but no \\r anywhere","date":"2011-11-16T22:36:16.915Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"also `vcbuild test` just works","date":"2011-11-16T22:36:26.178Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"igorzi","message":"piscisaureus_: is your git setup to replace \\n with \\r\\n?","date":"2011-11-16T22:46:45.431Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"nope","date":"2011-11-16T22:47:38.353Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"should it be?","date":"2011-11-16T22:47:41.857Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"Me no gusto","date":"2011-11-16T22:47:49.077Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"igorzi","message":"piscisaureus_: mine is (that was the default).. maybe that's why i don't have this issue","date":"2011-11-16T22:48:27.487Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"I think I will just land the 2 empty lines and be done with it","date":"2011-11-16T22:49:13.650Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"igorzi","message":"piscisaureus_: wait.. now i'm able to reproduce if i just download the raw copy of vcbuild.bat (without git)","date":"2011-11-16T22:49:48.158Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"ryah","message":"question - on the MSI XML file do we need to list all files that will be installed?","date":"2011-11-16T22:56:09.750Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"did i fuck up the vcbuild.bat ?","date":"2011-11-16T22:57:50.636Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"ryah: yes and no","date":"2011-11-16T22:57:58.673Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"ryah: you did not do anything wrong","date":"2011-11-16T22:58:06.004Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"ok","date":"2011-11-16T23:00:10.389Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"so isaacs, ideally we'd add the npm SHA1 to vcbuild.bat msi","date":"2011-11-16T23:00:44.394Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"isaacs","message":"ryah: the sha1 of what exactly?","date":"2011-11-16T23:01:01.834Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"isaacs: the commit you want released","date":"2011-11-16T23:01:11.110Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"ryah: what about a tag?  would that work?","date":"2011-11-16T23:01:17.361Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"are you just passing it as an argument to git checkout?","date":"2011-11-16T23:01:23.622Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"yeah","date":"2011-11-16T23:01:29.694Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"k","date":"2011-11-16T23:01:35.811Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"isaacs","message":"the problem there is that we'll also have to build the docs, which means installing ronnjs","date":"2011-11-16T23:01:47.451Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"CIA-95","message":"\u0002node:\u000f tls: make cipher list configurable","date":"2011-11-16T23:02:14.100Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"CIA-95","message":"\u0002node:\u000f options.ciphers existed but didn't work, the cipher list was effectively","date":"2011-11-16T23:02:14.100Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"CIA-95","message":"\u0002node:\u000f hard-coded to RC4-SHA:AES128-SHA:AES256-SHA.","date":"2011-11-16T23:02:14.100Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"CIA-95","message":"\u0002node:\u000f Fixes #2066. - http://git.io/u8AhZw","date":"2011-11-16T23:02:14.100Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"hmm - yeah that's kind of annoying","date":"2011-11-16T23:02:16.002Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"you were suggesting downloading the tarball from the website?","date":"2011-11-16T23:02:29.346Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"igorzi","message":"piscisaureus_: pls go ahead with 2 empty lines","date":"2011-11-16T23:04:21.103Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"igorzi: random weirdness, eh? :-)","date":"2011-11-16T23:04:47.807Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"igorzi","message":"piscisaureus_: i don't see it because git converted \\n to \\r\\n for me","date":"2011-11-16T23:05:20.086Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"igorzi: yeah but generally \\n is n","date":"2011-11-16T23:05:44.186Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"ot a problem for cmd.exe","date":"2011-11-16T23:05:50.499Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"igorzi","message":"piscisaureus_: right.. i guess we found a case when it is :)","date":"2011-11-16T23:06:29.209Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"igorzi","message":"ryah: yes all files that you want included with the install need to be listed in wix","date":"2011-11-16T23:07:00.196Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"eh - someone needs to set their git email ...","date":"2011-11-16T23:07:14.077Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"https://github.com/joyent/node/commit/7acb92dee1584ab2017177b2a6ea3ab461cf3308 <--","date":"2011-11-16T23:07:22.700Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"igorzi: is it possible ot just give it a directory?","date":"2011-11-16T23:07:52.357Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"ryah","message":"igorzi: and tell it to install all sub-files?","date":"2011-11-16T23:08:14.722Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"ok, force pushing","date":"2011-11-16T23:08:42.754Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"scheisse","date":"2011-11-16T23:08:46.143Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"igorzi: the problem is that npm has a huge number of files","date":"2011-11-16T23:08:47.412Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"forgot to do it after git reinstall","date":"2011-11-16T23:08:53.071Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"piscisaureus_: please only force push to v0.6 and make sure 5e3b009 is the parent of your commit","date":"2011-11-16T23:09:23.979Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"ryah: yeah, i was suggesting downloading the tarball, or i can even change up the npm build to put a zip somewhere.","date":"2011-11-16T23:09:26.402Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"isaacs: tar is fine","date":"2011-11-16T23:09:53.967Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"k","date":"2011-11-16T23:09:58.261Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"what else is built in the tarball besides docs?","date":"2011-11-16T23:10:20.993Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"the install.sh script reads the tarball location from https://registry.npmjs.org/npm/latest","date":"2011-11-16T23:10:25.483Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"also all the dependencies are bundled.","date":"2011-11-16T23:10:48.785Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"ryah","message":"ah, ok","date":"2011-11-16T23:10:59.632Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"so you don't have to do git submodule update --init --recursive","date":"2011-11-16T23:11:02.221Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"isaacs: and we're going to want to run the tests - is that going to be possible with the tarball?","date":"2011-11-16T23:11:33.317Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"ryah: sure.","date":"2011-11-16T23:11:44.662Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"ok","date":"2011-11-16T23:11:51.324Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"ryah: um... on windows?","date":"2011-11-16T23:11:51.998Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"yeah","date":"2011-11-16T23:11:55.093Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"no","date":"2011-11-16T23:11:56.582Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"the test runner is a bash script","date":"2011-11-16T23:12:01.185Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"oh.. hm","date":"2011-11-16T23:12:06.877Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"we need to fix that","date":"2011-11-16T23:12:08.984Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"yeah.  on the todo list :)","date":"2011-11-16T23:12:13.905Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"igorzi","message":"ryah: i'll find out if you can point it to a directory","date":"2011-11-16T23:12:35.604Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"many tests still rely on msys tools I think","date":"2011-11-16T23:12:35.901Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"like curl etc","date":"2011-11-16T23:12:42.724Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"yes","date":"2011-11-16T23:12:52.752Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"isaacs: does the bash runner run on windows though?","date":"2011-11-16T23:13:10.665Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"ryah","message":"isaacs: windows with bash, that is","date":"2011-11-16T23:13:16.046Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"that would be acceptable","date":"2011-11-16T23:13:41.569Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"i have bash on my windows","date":"2011-11-16T23:13:44.995Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"ryah: i'm not sure.  there's some oddness with npm using gi\u001dt/msys bash, because the .cmd files don't run","date":"2011-11-16T23:13:56.323Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"hm yeah","date":"2011-11-16T23:14:08.969Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"afaict, there's no clear way to write a program that works with cmd.exe and also works with msys bash without compiling it.","date":"2011-11-16T23:14:36.749Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"what's the plan for the test runner?","date":"2011-11-16T23:15:13.296Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"isaacs: have you seen felix's new test runner?","date":"2011-11-16T23:17:45.533Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"isaacs: it looks pretty nice","date":"2011-11-16T23:17:50.128Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"yeah, it's ok","date":"2011-11-16T23:17:53.042Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"i'll probably use tap.","date":"2011-11-16T23:17:58.786Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"since i don't have to get anyone's permission to change it when i hit bugs.","date":"2011-11-16T23:18:06.994Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"yeah","date":"2011-11-16T23:18:21.544Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"test runners and flow control libs should not be black boxes.","date":"2011-11-16T23:18:27.925Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"i'm remarkably surprised at how many people use slide and tap.  they're not even that great.","date":"2011-11-16T23:18:39.003Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"igorzi","message":"ryah: yes, it's possible to include directories","date":"2011-11-16T23:18:48.963Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"igorzi: great","date":"2011-11-16T23:18:56.109Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"so isaacs, this is getting installed at C:\\Program Files\\nodejs\\node.exe and C:\\Program Files\\nodejs\\npm.cmd ?","date":"2011-11-16T23:19:38.832Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"sounds right","date":"2011-11-16T23:19:48.790Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"all the other npm files should be tucked away in C:\\Program Files\\nodejs\\node_modules or something ?","date":"2011-11-16T23:19:54.654Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"bingo.","date":"2011-11-16T23:19:59.615Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"cool","date":"2011-11-16T23:20:04.363Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"you guessed correctly, if that was a guess :)","date":"2011-11-16T23:20:11.146Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"so we're going to download the tarball, unpack it into the node project root directory, then run the WiX scripts","date":"2011-11-16T23:20:48.457Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"I wonder if it will end up in c:\\program files (x86)","date":"2011-11-16T23:20:54.201Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"igorzi","message":"yeah, on x64 windows it goes into program files (x86)","date":"2011-11-16T23:21:10.140Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"which will take the npm directory and put it in the MSI to be installed into C:\\Program Files\\nodejs\\node_modules\\npm","date":"2011-11-16T23:21:11.124Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"WiX scripts?","date":"2011-11-16T23:21:27.748Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"the msi creating stuff","date":"2011-11-16T23:21:45.942Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"oh, ok","date":"2011-11-16T23:21:49.272Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"i can provide the npm.cmd file pre-built so that you don't have to generate that.","date":"2011-11-16T23:21:59.005Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"isaacs: https://github.com/joyent/node/blob/3222a04d5e8d1fef90ac6247c6febeebe02cf659/vcbuild.bat#L78-85","date":"2011-11-16T23:22:10.887Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"how big is the npm.cmd?","date":"2011-11-16T23:22:22.821Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"213 bytes.","date":"2011-11-16T23:22:58.398Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"oh, there's also npm-g.cmd and npm_g.cmd","date":"2011-11-16T23:23:03.446Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"we could just include it in node's tree if you want","date":"2011-11-16T23:23:04.944Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"639 bytes total ;)","date":"2011-11-16T23:23:17.067Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"in tools/msi/npm.cmd","date":"2011-11-16T23:23:35.903Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"or whatever","date":"2011-11-16T23:23:39.254Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"or - i guess it's better if it's just in the npm direcotry","date":"2011-11-16T23:24:02.154Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"yeah, i'll just put it there, the msi script can copy it out","date":"2011-11-16T23:24:27.923Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"ok","date":"2011-11-16T23:24:48.052Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"so we won't do this for v0.6.2 but we'll try for v0.6.3","date":"2011-11-16T23:25:00.738Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"hopefully bsdtar.exe will be removed by then","date":"2011-11-16T23:25:12.811Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"and then windows users will be happy","date":"2011-11-16T23:25:39.655Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"ryah","message":"isaacs: i want to specify exactly the version of npm we will install in the node tree - not the latest","date":"2011-11-16T23:26:38.125Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"ryah: sure.","date":"2011-11-16T23:26:46.043Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"how big is the npm tarball?","date":"2011-11-16T23:27:27.094Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"ryah: https://github.com/isaacs/npm/commit/80c7f1eba41e05825f4c941f4361192a0619822e","date":"2011-11-16T23:27:32.619Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"we could just drop it in deps","date":"2011-11-16T23:27:33.128Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"igorzi","message":"ryah isaacs: so program files\\nodejs\\node_modules will be the global node_modules folder?","date":"2011-11-16T23:27:37.741Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"Content-Length: 1187840","date":"2011-11-16T23:27:59.249Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"1M","date":"2011-11-16T23:28:02.107Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"igorzi: yes.","date":"2011-11-16T23:28:22.655Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"and program files\\nodejs\\ will be the global bin folder.","date":"2011-11-16T23:28:31.557Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"yeah maybe we'll just drop the tarball into node","date":"2011-11-16T23:29:06.413Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"igorzi","message":"isaacs: this means that modules will be downloaded to program files\\nodejs\\node_modules when --global switch is used, correct?","date":"2011-11-16T23:29:06.644Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"i dont like the idea of having to go over the internet","date":"2011-11-16T23:29:18.785Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"igorzi","message":"ryah isaacs: this means that users will need to run elevated to do \"npm install --global\"","date":"2011-11-16T23:34:28.480Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"if we can include a directory from WiX then it seems quite easy to include npm","date":"2011-11-16T23:34:53.719Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"igorzi: that seems reasonable","date":"2011-11-16T23:35:01.180Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"igorzi: does it prompt you for a password?","date":"2011-11-16T23:35:08.580Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"or how do you run elevated commands?","date":"2011-11-16T23:35:18.051Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"igorzi","message":"ryah isaacs: yep.  that's actually a good thing","date":"2011-11-16T23:35:24.663Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"igorzi","message":"ryah: you'll get access denied when trying to write to program files","date":"2011-11-16T23:35:47.959Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"igorzi: that's pretty similar to the normal unix install mechanism, actually.","date":"2011-11-16T23:36:11.861Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"igorzi","message":"ryah: you can start cmd.exe elevated with right-click, run as admin","date":"2011-11-16T23:36:18.424Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"how hard would it be to have the msi let you choose an install location?","date":"2011-11-16T23:36:29.705Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"isaacs: i think bert is adding that","date":"2011-11-16T23:36:44.668Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"igorzi","message":"ryah isaacs: what about when people uninstall node.. is it reasonable to wipe the global node_modules?","date":"2011-11-16T23:36:54.977Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"igorzi: yes, i think so","date":"2011-11-16T23:37:05.947Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"igorzi","message":"what if someone just wants to upgrade from 0.6.2 to 0.6.3.. all their global modules will be gone","date":"2011-11-16T23:37:44.223Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"igorzi","message":"i guess they could just install those modules non-global","date":"2011-11-16T23:38:06.321Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"igorzi: yeah that's a little annoying","date":"2011-11-16T23:38:44.932Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"what's the process for upgrading an MSI?","date":"2011-11-16T23:38:51.270Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"uninstall / install?","date":"2011-11-16T23:39:06.924Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"or is there special upgrade process that can be defined?","date":"2011-11-16T23:39:17.680Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"igorzi","message":"yes, if side-by-side installs are not supported (which is how it is now)","date":"2011-11-16T23:39:28.369Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"igorzi","message":"i believe there's also a way to do upgrades","date":"2011-11-16T23:40:24.215Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"ryah: should ObjectWrap be exported for use by modules","date":"2011-11-16T23:42:50.476Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"?","date":"2011-11-16T23:42:51.411Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"so modules can define their own","date":"2011-11-16T23:43:01.267Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"ryah","message":"piscisaureus_: yes","date":"2011-11-16T23:51:07.279Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"many people are using it","date":"2011-11-16T23:51:17.018Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"CIA-95","message":"\u0002node:\u000f \u000303Bert Belder\u000f \u000307reviewme\u000f * r\u00023e696d1\u000f \u000310\u000f/ (src/node_buffer.h src/node_object_wrap.h)\u0002:\u000f ","date":"2011-11-16T23:56:40.611Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"CIA-95","message":"\u0002node:\u000f Windows: make Buffer and ObjectWrap available to compiled extensions","date":"2011-11-16T23:56:40.831Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"CIA-95","message":"\u0002node:\u000f Closes GH-2036 - http://git.io/9LO2AQ","date":"2011-11-16T23:56:40.831Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"igorzi: ^- signoff?","date":"2011-11-16T23:56:46.436Z","type":"message"}