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{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"isaacs: I can't send bryan's patch upstream because it doesn't work","date":"2012-09-21T00:04:58.661Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"isaacs: I think they have changed even more after the v3.13 branch","date":"2012-09-21T00:05:53.536Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"isaacs: also, they have created a 3.14 branch already...","date":"2012-09-21T00:07:20.528Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"isaacs: that said, we should land the 3.13 upgrade","date":"2012-09-21T00:07:48.438Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"isaacs","message":"kk","date":"2012-09-21T00:19:04.070Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"piscisaureus_: with bmc's newer patch?","date":"2012-09-21T00:19:16.648Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"piscisaureus_: or are you saying that it's not suitable?","date":"2012-09-21T00:19:24.662Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"isaacs: the patch works for this v8 branch","date":"2012-09-21T00:19:34.026Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"oh, o","date":"2012-09-21T00:19:37.332Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"ok","date":"2012-09-21T00:19:38.242Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"isaacs: but it doesn't apply to v8-master","date":"2012-09-21T00:19:43.039Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"got it","date":"2012-09-21T00:19:45.662Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"joyent ought to hire a V8 developer ;)","date":"2012-09-21T00:19:59.998Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"isaacs: so when the dust settles in v8 then bmc probably has to take alook at it again","date":"2012-09-21T00:20:13.319Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"yeah","date":"2012-09-21T00:20:17.761Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"isaacs: hiring and joyent ;-)","date":"2012-09-21T00:20:20.731Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"piscisaureus_: if you want to merge the v8-3.13.7.1 branch into master, be my guest.","date":"2012-09-21T00:20:47.701Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"we can still send the patch pustream for the 3.13 branch, though, right?","date":"2012-09-21T00:21:14.905Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"i mean, it's less floating for us in any event, i'd thing","date":"2012-09-21T00:21:29.968Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"*think","date":"2012-09-21T00:21:31.204Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"isaacs: I think so, but there is no correct 3.13 branch in their gh repo","date":"2012-09-21T00:21:36.380Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"isaacs: so that makes it a little difficult. I would have to go the svn/depot-tools route","date":"2012-09-21T00:22:05.963Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"righ","date":"2012-09-21T00:22:12.087Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"which is a little painful but I'll do it if we stick to this patch","date":"2012-09-21T00:22:19.836Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"that's the only way i've ever submitted patches to V8.  it's pretty painful","date":"2012-09-21T00:22:24.427Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"yes","date":"2012-09-21T00:22:30.728Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"I use git-cl","date":"2012-09-21T00:22:33.173Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"it's pretty nice","date":"2012-09-21T00:22:35.838Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"isaacs: I'm not landing the sunos mmap patch yet","date":"2012-09-21T00:23:14.678Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"CIA-131","message":"\u0002node:\u000f \u000303isaacs\u000f \u000307master\u000f * r\u00023411a03\u000f \u000310\u000f/ (381 files in 23 dirs)\u0002:\u000f V8: Upgrade to 3.13.7.1 - http://git.io/gBGPIQ","date":"2012-09-21T00:24:48.566Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"CIA-131","message":"\u0002node:\u000f \u000303isaacs\u000f \u000307master\u000f * r\u0002d77c24d\u000f \u000310\u000f/ (deps/v8/build/common.gypi deps/v8/tools/gyp/v8.gyp)\u0002:\u000f V8: reapply floating patches - http://git.io/ntaXCg","date":"2012-09-21T00:24:49.042Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"CIA-131","message":"\u0002node:\u000f \u000303Bryan Cantrill\u000f \u000307master\u000f * r\u0002017009f\u000f \u000310\u000f/ deps/v8/tools/gen-postmortem-metadata.py \u0002:\u000f v8: fix postmortem metadata generation - http://git.io/cI7wXw","date":"2012-09-21T00:24:49.283Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"ok, that's one redeemable feature of libpurple, even though it depends on glib I can easily drive it with another event loop","date":"2012-09-21T01:12:19.965Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"yes. libuv needs that too","date":"2012-09-21T01:22:17.664Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"it's always thread constraints that get in the way tho","date":"2012-09-21T01:22:28.350Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"like, this function needs to be called on the same thread as X","date":"2012-09-21T01:22:48.308Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"I'm playing around with node+ffi+libpurple, and using uv_poll via ffi as well, most of libpurple should be single threaded, though some documentation suggests that on windows all bets are off","date":"2012-09-21T01:25:54.529Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"TooTallNate: I'm having a bit of idiot moment, I have a void* that I'm trying to reinterpret, is that ref.get(ptr, refType(mytype))?","date":"2012-09-21T02:09:19.867Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"TooTallNate","message":"tjfontaine: you're trying to cast it essentially?","date":"2012-09-21T02:09:52.443Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"yes","date":"2012-09-21T02:09:56.961Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"it can also deref that's fine","date":"2012-09-21T02:10:11.635Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"TooTallNate","message":"you just set the \"type\" prop of the Buffer instance","date":"2012-09-21T02:10:24.669Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"ah","date":"2012-09-21T02:10:33.933Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"TooTallNate","message":"ptr.type = refType(mytype)","date":"2012-09-21T02:10:36.042Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"ok I'll work with that, thanks greatly","date":"2012-09-21T02:11:43.791Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"TooTallNate","message":"np :)","date":"2012-09-21T02:12:04.878Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"TooTallNate","message":"tjfontaine: always enjoy the feedback btw","date":"2012-09-21T02:12:30.280Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"TooTallNate","message":"or at least knowing someone else also enjoys programming C in JS :p","date":"2012-09-21T02:12:49.308Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"enjoy might be strong, certainly masochistic enough to try it","date":"2012-09-21T02:13:08.603Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"TooTallNate","message":"well it's taught me a lot about C in general, and pointers especially, so i've enjoyed it I suppose","date":"2012-09-21T02:13:54.132Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"I've certainly learned, sometimes kicking and screaming, but I've learned","date":"2012-09-21T02:14:53.330Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"indutny","message":"saghul: yeah","date":"2012-09-21T04:17:16.975Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"saghul","message":"indutny I refined my original idea, just sent an email","date":"2012-09-21T06:59:13.999Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"saghul: well, that's what we propose","date":"2012-09-21T07:04:29.568Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"saghul: but what's the purpose of uv_poll","date":"2012-09-21T07:04:39.499Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"saghul: is it sort of uv_run_once that'll definitely not block?","date":"2012-09-21T07:04:49.964Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"saghul","message":"indutny instead of doing all the plubing with uv_run_embed, let the user do it","date":"2012-09-21T07:04:58.745Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"saghul","message":"yes","date":"2012-09-21T07:05:04.259Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"saghul: that's what we've decided","date":"2012-09-21T07:05:08.941Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"saghul: no plubming","date":"2012-09-21T07:05:12.164Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"saghul","message":"indutny nice :-)","date":"2012-09-21T07:05:20.623Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"saghul: but uv_wait() is actually only thing that can't be implemented by users","date":"2012-09-21T07:05:29.821Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"they can use uv_run_once() for everything else","date":"2012-09-21T07:05:36.786Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"saghul","message":"indutny yeah, we need that","date":"2012-09-21T07:05:41.922Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"saghul: uv_poll(..., timeout)","date":"2012-09-21T07:07:27.628Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"saghul: why timeout?","date":"2012-09-21T07:07:30.349Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"it should not block","date":"2012-09-21T07:07:35.784Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"saghul","message":"it doesn't","date":"2012-09-21T07:07:45.156Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"so why timeout?","date":"2012-09-21T07:07:50.086Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"saghul","message":"indutny it tells the backend for how long to poll","date":"2012-09-21T07:07:54.850Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"it will not block","date":"2012-09-21T07:08:00.654Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"so no polling is happening here","date":"2012-09-21T07:08:05.332Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"timeout should be zero","date":"2012-09-21T07:08:09.332Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"it just deques events from backend","date":"2012-09-21T07:08:16.665Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"events that has already happened after uv_wait() has finished running","date":"2012-09-21T07:08:27.398Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"saghul","message":"sorry, I said that wrong","date":"2012-09-21T07:08:40.319Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"saghul","message":"uv_poll does block","date":"2012-09-21T07:08:44.010Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"saghul","message":"but it does so in the other thread","date":"2012-09-21T07:08:50.060Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"saghul","message":"but it doesn't handle the events","date":"2012-09-21T07:08:56.240Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"saghul","message":"uv_wait dequeues them","date":"2012-09-21T07:09:02.586Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"no it doesn't","date":"2012-09-21T07:09:06.749Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"saghul","message":"and handles them, in the qt thread, for instance","date":"2012-09-21T07:09:22.596Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"that's how it works in my patch now","date":"2012-09-21T07:09:45.681Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"it just waits for events","date":"2012-09-21T07:09:51.232Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"like your uv_poll does","date":"2012-09-21T07:09:54.330Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"saghul","message":"indutny aha","date":"2012-09-21T07:11:25.133Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"saghul","message":"yeah, there is a bit of a name collision there","date":"2012-09-21T07:11:49.053Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"saghul","message":"hopefully I described it correctly :-)","date":"2012-09-21T07:12:07.052Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"ok","date":"2012-09-21T07:12:14.148Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"I'll reply","date":"2012-09-21T07:12:16.626Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"Just wanted to do some real time discussion","date":"2012-09-21T07:12:28.516Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"to prevent us from wasting time","date":"2012-09-21T07:12:37.164Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"kuebk","message":"hi","date":"2012-09-21T07:47:47.148Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kuebk","message":"http://pastebin.com/xBkU7Lf0","date":"2012-09-21T07:48:54.675Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kuebk","message":"can someone look at this and help me?","date":"2012-09-21T07:49:02.455Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kuebk","message":"i can't figure it out myself","date":"2012-09-21T07:49:08.095Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"kuebk: sure","date":"2012-09-21T07:52:23.157Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"well","date":"2012-09-21T07:52:35.811Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"you should do following thing","date":"2012-09-21T07:52:40.837Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"Handle<Value> property = data->Get(key);","date":"2012-09-21T07:53:13.212Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"if (property->IsArray()) arr = property.As<Array>()","date":"2012-09-21T07:53:24.773Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"kuebk: ^","date":"2012-09-21T07:53:32.505Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"hope this helps","date":"2012-09-21T07:53:42.405Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kuebk","message":"hmm","date":"2012-09-21T07:54:27.164Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kuebk","message":"thank you","date":"2012-09-21T07:54:30.786Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kuebk","message":"hmm","date":"2012-09-21T07:55:54.597Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kuebk","message":"looks like I'm using outdated docs for v8","date":"2012-09-21T07:56:05.843Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"Cogito_Ergo_Sum","message":"hi","date":"2012-09-21T10:27:28.728Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Cogito_Ergo_Sum","message":"can anyone tell me if the libuv api for creating a server, sending and receiving data is at the same level as the node.js api or at a lower one ?","date":"2012-09-21T10:28:46.964Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"piscisaureus: where did the ffi fix land?","date":"2012-09-21T10:34:42.231Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"cant see it in master","date":"2012-09-21T10:34:44.886Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"o now i can see","date":"2012-09-21T10:35:53.112Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"Cogito_Ergo_Sum: it's a little bit lower, but almost the same","date":"2012-09-21T10:37:12.143Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"Cogito_Ergo_Sum","message":"i see","date":"2012-09-21T10:42:02.856Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Cogito_Ergo_Sum","message":"and it can be used in normal C/C++ projects right?","date":"2012-09-21T10:42:20.399Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"Cogito_Ergo_Sum: sure","date":"2012-09-21T10:44:13.074Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Cogito_Ergo_Sum","message":"ok","date":"2012-09-21T10:45:32.322Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"Cogito_Ergo_Sum","message":"indutny: with VS as well?","date":"2012-09-21T10:48:18.537Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Cogito_Ergo_Sum","message":"as an IDE","date":"2012-09-21T10:48:30.719Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"ja","date":"2012-09-21T10:49:21.870Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"indutny","message":"Cogito_Ergo_Sum: yeah, it should","date":"2012-09-21T11:01:51.009Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"piscisaureus: heya","date":"2012-09-21T11:04:33.859Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"piscisaureus: still sleeping?","date":"2012-09-21T11:04:36.440Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"isaacs: mind landing small uv API update (i.e. one function added, nothing changed)","date":"2012-09-21T11:05:27.267Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"isaacs: into 0.8.x","date":"2012-09-21T11:05:30.899Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"isaacs: it would make life of at least two people easier","date":"2012-09-21T11:05:47.270Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"saghul","message":"indutny did you forget to add test-embed.c ?","date":"2012-09-21T11:08:50.849Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"saghul: yes, I did","date":"2012-09-21T11:08:58.288Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":":)","date":"2012-09-21T11:09:22.377Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"saghul","message":";-)","date":"2012-09-21T11:10:35.444Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"txdv","message":"what function?","date":"2012-09-21T11:15:16.345Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"indutny","message":"txdv: wut?","date":"2012-09-21T11:22:25.088Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"what function do you want to add?","date":"2012-09-21T11:22:39.307Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"indutny","message":"txdv: uv_wait()","date":"2012-09-21T11:30:43.954Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"what does it do?","date":"2012-09-21T11:31:45.363Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"waits for events to happen","date":"2012-09-21T11:35:03.841Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":":)","date":"2012-09-21T11:35:04.440Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"without dequeing them","date":"2012-09-21T11:35:08.016Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"piscisaureus","message":"indutny: I doubt I can make uv_wait work with APCs ...","date":"2012-09-21T12:38:29.304Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus","message":"indutny: I'll take a final look but I don't think it can be done...","date":"2012-09-21T12:38:47.219Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"piscisaureus: ok, that should not be a problem","date":"2012-09-21T12:39:22.958Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus","message":"indutny: why?","date":"2012-09-21T12:39:32.225Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"we'll still need this API for all other platforms","date":"2012-09-21T12:39:43.297Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus","message":"indutny: we can still offer the APIs on unix","date":"2012-09-21T12:39:47.002Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus","message":"yes","date":"2012-09-21T12:39:47.816Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"indeed","date":"2012-09-21T12:39:50.239Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"so if it's impossible on windows, lets not deal with it for now","date":"2012-09-21T12:40:01.377Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"noone will be hurt","date":"2012-09-21T12:40:05.067Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"btw, where is ben?","date":"2012-09-21T12:41:33.511Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"piscisaureus: ^","date":"2012-09-21T12:41:49.928Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"I want you both to review this https://github.com/joyent/libuv/pull/561","date":"2012-09-21T12:42:08.325Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"to land it in uv","date":"2012-09-21T12:42:10.505Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"and later in node","date":"2012-09-21T12:42:19.964Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"piscisaureus: btw, what do you think about landing it in 0.8 too?","date":"2012-09-21T12:42:41.831Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus","message":"indutny: no thoughts yet. Why?","date":"2012-09-21T12:44:11.628Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"piscisaureus: because people need it","date":"2012-09-21T12:44:22.006Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"piscisaureus: at least, Tim and Nate","date":"2012-09-21T12:44:30.647Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"and I, a little","date":"2012-09-21T12:44:35.822Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"indutny: here","date":"2012-09-21T12:46:32.763Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"bnoordhuis: hoya","date":"2012-09-21T12:46:36.489Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus","message":"indutny: I care more about api consistency -> https://github.com/indutny/libuv/blob/master/include/uv.h#L1132","date":"2012-09-21T12:48:42.530Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"ah","date":"2012-09-21T12:48:53.540Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"ok","date":"2012-09-21T12:48:54.278Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"I'll update patch","date":"2012-09-21T12:49:04.933Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"and lets use -1 then","date":"2012-09-21T12:49:08.079Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus","message":"indutny: infact -1 is not very consistent - uv_timer_init uses 0 to disable repeat - but I regret that decision","date":"2012-09-21T12:50:32.039Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"piscisaureus","message":"indutny: It seems okay","date":"2012-09-21T12:52:10.426Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus","message":"indutny: what about linux and SinOS ?","date":"2012-09-21T12:52:21.266Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"works on linux","date":"2012-09-21T12:52:35.647Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"not on SinOS","date":"2012-09-21T12:52:40.455Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"idk what's SinOS is using, but it's either poll or select","date":"2012-09-21T12:52:57.026Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"so it's better wait for faio before implementing uv_wait() on it","date":"2012-09-21T12:53:13.796Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"piscisaureus: force pushed","date":"2012-09-21T12:54:31.495Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"faio?","date":"2012-09-21T12:56:47.402Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"https://github.com/bnoordhuis/faio","date":"2012-09-21T12:57:08.464Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"the readme is very detailed","date":"2012-09-21T12:57:56.146Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"looks like another event loop","date":"2012-09-21T12:59:26.508Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"sort of","date":"2012-09-21T13:02:12.707Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"but it's a replacement of libev, actually","date":"2012-09-21T13:02:21.614Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"txdv: readmes are for the feeble, Real Men read the code","date":"2012-09-21T13:05:01.208Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"indutny","message":"txdv: Real Men have \"bnoordhuis\" as nickname","date":"2012-09-21T13:07:23.803Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","new_nick":"bnoordhuis2","date":"2012-09-21T13:07:28.641Z","type":"nick"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis2","message":"see","date":"2012-09-21T13:07:31.369Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"^ this man speaks truth","date":"2012-09-21T13:07:36.637Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"real man drink vodka in the morning","date":"2012-09-21T13:07:41.065Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis2","message":"no","date":"2012-09-21T13:07:51.627Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"i never do that","date":"2012-09-21T13:07:53.158Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis2","message":"that's for morons","date":"2012-09-21T13:07:53.868Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"there's never anything left from the night before","date":"2012-09-21T13:08:00.476Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis2","message":"we never do that","date":"2012-09-21T13:08:00.742Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis2","message":"^ see","date":"2012-09-21T13:08:10.160Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"deoxxa","message":"damn, is it excusable to not do that if you're barely ever awake in time for the morning?","date":"2012-09-21T13:08:36.804Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis2","message":"deoxxa: just write code","date":"2012-09-21T13:08:51.539Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"deoxxa","message":"ok, good","date":"2012-09-21T13:08:56.190Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis2","new_nick":"indutny","date":"2012-09-21T13:08:57.890Z","type":"nick"}
{"nick":"deoxxa","message":"i have that covered","date":"2012-09-21T13:08:58.304Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"deoxxa","message":"code code code","date":"2012-09-21T13:09:04.151Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"bnoordhuis: so are you ok with pulling uv_wait() into master and 0.8?","date":"2012-09-21T13:09:33.069Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"it's not an API change","date":"2012-09-21T13:09:39.487Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"indutny: i haven't really reviewed it yet","date":"2012-09-21T13:09:48.650Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"ok","date":"2012-09-21T13:09:58.607Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"or maybe more accurately, i really haven't reviewed it yet","date":"2012-09-21T13:10:04.354Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"let me know if anything","date":"2012-09-21T13:10:06.437Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"i will let you know if anything","date":"2012-09-21T13:10:14.722Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"I will let you know if you'll let me know if anything","date":"2012-09-21T13:10:29.872Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"ok, code","date":"2012-09-21T13:10:41.403Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"txdv","message":"is libev too slow or why this faio?","date":"2012-09-21T13:17:02.888Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"it's retarded","date":"2012-09-21T13:17:35.688Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"a little","date":"2012-09-21T13:17:36.901Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"and on some specific platforms a way more retarded","date":"2012-09-21T13:17:46.653Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"Well, if someone wants to have the fun rewriting that entire thing","date":"2012-09-21T13:20:22.120Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"why not","date":"2012-09-21T13:20:23.396Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"txdv: exactly","date":"2012-09-21T13:20:37.971Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"txdv: have you seen libev's code?","date":"2012-09-21T13:20:51.746Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"the codestyle sucks","date":"2012-09-21T13:21:10.337Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"it is that website with the parrot?","date":"2012-09-21T13:21:17.444Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"yes","date":"2012-09-21T13:21:21.040Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"txdv: faio is not a rewrite of libev","date":"2012-09-21T13:23:06.931Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"libev does a lot of things that libuv doesn't need","date":"2012-09-21T13:23:15.812Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"faio is just the core event loop, cross platform","date":"2012-09-21T13:23:25.652Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"what kind of things?","date":"2012-09-21T13:23:38.948Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"doing timestamp updates, checking for bad fds, child processes, etc.","date":"2012-09-21T13:24:01.413Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"but libuv handles that itself","date":"2012-09-21T13:24:16.035Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"will faio be faster? it will be just an abstraction for all the unixes, right?","date":"2012-09-21T13:26:30.681Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"txdv: potentially faster :)","date":"2012-09-21T13:27:20.783Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"bnoordhuis:","date":"2012-09-21T13:27:56.030Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"/* A -1 timeout means \"wait indefinitely\" and modern kernels do","date":"2012-09-21T13:27:56.273Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"  * but old (ancient) kernels wait for LONG_MAX milliseconds.","date":"2012-09-21T13:27:56.273Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"  */","date":"2012-09-21T13:27:56.273Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"now that's something to worry about :-)","date":"2012-09-21T13:28:01.995Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"piscisaureus: yes, i handle that","date":"2012-09-21T13:28:26.582Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"I know","date":"2012-09-21T13:28:39.311Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"but meh, that's only an issue with pre-2.6.9 kernels","date":"2012-09-21T13:28:46.870Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"bnoordhuis: it's an excerpt from your code","date":"2012-09-21T13:28:59.172Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"bnoordhuis: so why did you bother?","date":"2012-09-21T13:29:04.548Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"i mean, you have an event loop that's blocked for 60 days?","date":"2012-09-21T13:29:12.264Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"ah, i thought \"what an eloquent yet tersely worded comment\"","date":"2012-09-21T13:29:18.390Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"piscisaureus: more like 42 days","date":"2012-09-21T13:29:42.733Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"oh whatever I am not that good at quick math","date":"2012-09-21T13:29:58.310Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"24 days now that i think of it, the argument is signed","date":"2012-09-21T13:30:19.684Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"umm ?","date":"2012-09-21T13:30:34.247Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"i ran into it in the past with a quake 3 server","date":"2012-09-21T13:30:39.004Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"not a terribly popular server it was","date":"2012-09-21T13:30:49.687Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"bnoordhuis: one that had no users for 24 days :-)","date":"2012-09-21T13:30:54.804Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"haha","date":"2012-09-21T13:30:55.103Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"indeed","date":"2012-09-21T13:30:56.247Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"bnoordhuis: I guess it's better for the environment when servers turn themselves off after a month without usage","date":"2012-09-21T13:31:23.443Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"that's what the hlt instruction is for","date":"2012-09-21T13:31:40.626Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus","message":"bnoordhuis: did you manage to benchmark openssl already>","date":"2012-09-21T13:31:48.027Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"no, but i will now","date":"2012-09-21T13:31:54.100Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus","message":"yay","date":"2012-09-21T13:31:58.698Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"what branch should i check?","date":"2012-09-21T13:32:00.873Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus","message":"openssl-asm","date":"2012-09-21T13:32:41.783Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus","message":"bnoordhuis: versus 0.8","date":"2012-09-21T13:32:53.512Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"oki","date":"2012-09-21T13:33:00.905Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"piscisaureus: do i need to patch the tls-connect benchmark?","date":"2012-09-21T13:34:29.016Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"bnoordhuis: yeah, you need to stress the bulk cipher.","date":"2012-09-21T13:34:45.060Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"bnoordhuis: AES to be precise","date":"2012-09-21T13:34:49.815Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"piscisaureus_: what was the cpuid file?","date":"2012-09-21T13:36:49.214Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus","message":"bnoordhuis: umm what?","date":"2012-09-21T13:37:01.800Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"i need to remove the hyperthreads / smt check right?","date":"2012-09-21T13:37:17.838Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus","message":"bnoordhuis: oh, that","date":"2012-09-21T13:37:30.751Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus","message":"bnoordhuis: yes, that'd be a better comparison","date":"2012-09-21T13:37:38.168Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus","message":"bnoordhuis: crypto/aes/asm/x86_64xxx.pl","date":"2012-09-21T13:37:55.639Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"oki","date":"2012-09-21T13:38:03.875Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"bnoordhuis: just crypto/aes/asm/aes-x86_64.pl","date":"2012-09-21T13:38:42.779Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"10 connections in 131.942 s","date":"2012-09-21T13:38:44.387Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"0 connections per second","date":"2012-09-21T13:38:44.627Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"that's with concurrency=1, buf=100M","date":"2012-09-21T13:38:54.107Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus","message":"ok","date":"2012-09-21T13:38:59.484Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","action":"patches openssl","date":"2012-09-21T13:39:06.938Z","type":"action"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"piscisaureus: for the record, it should *not* jump to .Lcbc_slow_prologue right?","date":"2012-09-21T13:42:29.736Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus","message":"bnoordhuis: well, I expect it to do that. But that makes it slow.","date":"2012-09-21T13:42:53.630Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus","message":"bnoordhuis: so if you patch it, take out the jump","date":"2012-09-21T13:43:10.031Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"10 connections in 117.412 s","date":"2012-09-21T13:44:56.062Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"0 connections per second","date":"2012-09-21T13:44:56.296Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"+       jmp     L$skip","date":"2012-09-21T13:45:06.596Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"        movl    _OPENSSL_ia32cap_P(%rip),%r10d","date":"2012-09-21T13:45:06.836Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"        cmpq    $512,%rdx","date":"2012-09-21T13:45:06.836Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"        jb      L$cbc_slow_prologue","date":"2012-09-21T13:45:06.836Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"@@ -1329,6 +1330,7 @@ L$cbc_picked_te:","date":"2012-09-21T13:45:06.836Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"        btl     $28,%r10d","date":"2012-09-21T13:45:07.599Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"        jc      L$cbc_slow_prologue","date":"2012-09-21T13:45:09.601Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":" ","date":"2012-09-21T13:45:13.605Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"+L$skip:","date":"2012-09-21T13:45:15.607Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"what's slow prologue?","date":"2012-09-21T13:45:16.766Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"that's the patch","date":"2012-09-21T13:45:17.611Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"anyway","date":"2012-09-21T13:45:17.846Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"piscisaureus: ^","date":"2012-09-21T13:45:19.881Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus","message":"bnoordhuis: yeah, that's not what I would do but okay","date":"2012-09-21T13:45:43.286Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus","message":":-0","date":"2012-09-21T13:45:44.478Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"bnoordhuis: https://github.com/joyent/node/blob/master/deps/openssl/openssl/crypto/aes/asm/aes-586.pl#L125-187","date":"2012-09-21T13:47:23.170Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"piscisaureus_: executive summary please?","date":"2012-09-21T13:47:55.921Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"umm","date":"2012-09-21T13:48:04.775Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"timing attacks","date":"2012-09-21T13:48:09.093Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"okay","date":"2012-09-21T13:48:14.545Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"i think i've read about that, years ago","date":"2012-09-21T13:48:22.170Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"timing attacks + hyperthreads, that is","date":"2012-09-21T13:48:28.681Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"But that may be only related to the speed limit","date":"2012-09-21T13:48:28.921Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"ah right","date":"2012-09-21T13:48:33.673Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"so that may be it","date":"2012-09-21T13:48:35.776Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"bnoordhuis: the executive summary is something along the lines: \"these timing attacks are probably impossible\"","date":"2012-09-21T13:51:16.713Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"bnoordhuis: ... and if someone could do them you have bigger problems","date":"2012-09-21T13:51:46.403Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"yeah, i suppose...","date":"2012-09-21T13:51:57.853Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"bnoordhuis: so did you do the bench?","date":"2012-09-21T13:53:56.762Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"piscisaureus: didn't you see the numbers?","date":"2012-09-21T13:54:17.915Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"131 vs 117","date":"2012-09-21T13:54:21.610Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"not sure if it's statistically significant","date":"2012-09-21T13:54:31.379Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"ah","date":"2012-09-21T13:54:32.592Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"the difference was bigger here","date":"2012-09-21T13:54:43.486Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"35 vs 50 s","date":"2012-09-21T13:55:05.932Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"or so","date":"2012-09-21T13:55:06.851Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"you saw it","date":"2012-09-21T13:55:16.167Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"oh, wait, it's more complicated","date":"2012-09-21T13:55:54.637Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"it's consistently 117 now","date":"2012-09-21T14:00:33.804Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"improbably so :)","date":"2012-09-21T14:00:40.020Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"tested it again, it's 34 vs 49 s consistently","date":"2012-09-21T14:06:58.341Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"that's with 100 connections, concurrency 10, 10mb data","date":"2012-09-21T14:07:12.994Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"this mmalecki guy, always late to the party, amirite?","date":"2012-09-21T14:56:51.678Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mmalecki","message":"bnoordhuis: hm?","date":"2012-09-21T14:59:01.848Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mmalecki","message":"bnoordhuis: I indeed *am* late to the party right now, but I'm sure that's not the party you're referring to :)","date":"2012-09-21T14:59:44.653Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"mmalecki: oh, going to a swingers party again. Really you're not supposed to do that until you're 50","date":"2012-09-21T15:00:55.500Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mmalecki","message":"bnoordhuis: btw, I *think* that I had few drinks with creator of Prince of Persia yesterday","date":"2012-09-21T15:01:09.557Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mmalecki","message":"piscisaureus_: well, why did I see you at the one I've been to before?","date":"2012-09-21T15:03:04.567Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"mmalecki: did or didn't?","date":"2012-09-21T15:03:25.918Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mmalecki","message":"bnoordhuis: well, I think I did","date":"2012-09-21T15:04:21.849Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mmalecki","message":"bnoordhuis: anyway, what party am I late to?","date":"2012-09-21T15:04:51.013Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"mmalecki: the EDQUOT one","date":"2012-09-21T15:05:38.147Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mmalecki","message":"bnoordhuis: why's that? I grepped sauce and didn't see it","date":"2012-09-21T15:05:57.748Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"mmalecki: your esteemed co-worker avianflu already sent a patch earlier this week :)","date":"2012-09-21T15:06:27.542Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mmalecki","message":"ah, I was grepping v0.8","date":"2012-09-21T15:07:20.608Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mmalecki","message":"also, I've been drinking since Monday, kinda got out of the loop","date":"2012-09-21T15:07:40.610Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mmalecki","message":"I'll close the issue, thanks for heads up","date":"2012-09-21T15:08:01.493Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"mmalecki: late again, bert already beat you to it","date":"2012-09-21T15:08:21.868Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mmalecki","message":"DANG","date":"2012-09-21T15:08:29.365Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":":)","date":"2012-09-21T15:08:36.107Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"back-porting the patch to v0.8 is not a bad idea though","date":"2012-09-21T15:09:01.367Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mmalecki","message":"yeah, we actually have to act on it","date":"2012-09-21T15:09:19.957Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mmalecki","message":"we can float it, but it'd more convenient to have it on 0.8","date":"2012-09-21T15:09:42.273Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"CIA-131","message":"\u0002libuv:\u000f \u000303Charlie McConnell\u000f \u000307v0.8\u000f * r\u0002b877db9\u000f \u000310\u000f/ src/unix/error.c \u0002:\u000f unix: map EDQUOT to UV_ENOSPC - http://git.io/aZ8wvQ","date":"2012-09-21T15:10:07.740Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"mmalecki: ^","date":"2012-09-21T15:10:09.803Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mmalecki","message":"bnoordhuis: <3","date":"2012-09-21T15:10:36.309Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mmalecki","message":"ircretary: tell avianflu to float joyent/libuv@b877db9 onto build server's libuv until it gets released in next node 0.8","date":"2012-09-21T15:11:41.883Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ircretary","message":"mmalecki: I'll be sure to tell avianflu","date":"2012-09-21T15:11:42.196Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mmalecki","message":"going to the conference","date":"2012-09-21T15:13:11.703Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mmalecki","message":"thanks guys","date":"2012-09-21T15:13:18.446Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"travis-ci","message":"[travis-ci] joyent/libuv#732 (v0.8 - b877db9 : Charlie McConnell): The build is still failing.","date":"2012-09-21T15:47:10.862Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"travis-ci","message":"[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/joyent/libuv/compare/9a4838110d5b...b877db93cec5","date":"2012-09-21T15:47:10.862Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"travis-ci","message":"[travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/joyent/libuv/builds/2522771","date":"2012-09-21T15:47:10.862Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"isaacs","message":"indutny: did bnoordhuis land the thing you were asking me about?","date":"2012-09-21T15:56:15.403Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"isaacs","message":"indutny: oh, no, that was a function adding.","date":"2012-09-21T16:11:22.723Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"indutny: we cant' do that in 0.8.","date":"2012-09-21T16:11:26.481Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"tls-connect benchmark, unmodified","date":"2012-09-21T16:26:42.924Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"10000 connections in 46.014 s <-- 0.8 without openssl-asm","date":"2012-09-21T16:26:49.599Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"10000 connections in 23.362 s <-- with openssl-asm","date":"2012-09-21T16:27:01.532Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"yay","date":"2012-09-21T16:27:03.069Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"piscisaureus_: looking nice","date":"2012-09-21T16:27:33.621Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"anyone wanna review? https://github.com/joyent/node/pull/4045","date":"2012-09-21T16:27:44.810Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"CIA-131","message":"\u0002node:\u000f \u000303Bert Belder\u000f \u000307openssl-asm\u000f * r\u00024634126\u000f \u000310\u000f/ (4 files in 3 dirs)\u0002:\u000f openssl: use optimized asm code on x86 and x64 (+7 more commits...) - http://git.io/zL9CHw","date":"2012-09-21T16:28:02.475Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"nobody understands domains :-)","date":"2012-09-21T16:28:07.322Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"isaacs","message":"all the more reason to review patches!","date":"2012-09-21T16:28:17.500Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"isaacs: oh btw I have to add, that was the x32 build. x64 is less spectacular","date":"2012-09-21T16:29:08.954Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"sure","date":"2012-09-21T16:31:58.079Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"isaacs: why don't you just use `var PROCESS = process` ?","date":"2012-09-21T16:36:36.365Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"piscisaureus_: because it's not set when events.js is first loaded","date":"2012-09-21T16:36:52.469Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"isaacs: and just out of curiosity, why is the active domain stored on the process object (and not as a global)","date":"2012-09-21T16:36:55.530Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"because globals are slow.","date":"2012-09-21T16:37:04.146Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"(same reason why i don't just use `this === process`","date":"2012-09-21T16:37:13.356Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"really?","date":"2012-09-21T16:37:15.634Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"reduces http_simple benchmark measureably, yeah.","date":"2012-09-21T16:37:31.404Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"i mean, if it's only accessed a few times, it doesn't matter.","date":"2012-09-21T16:37:44.926Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"but this is very hot path","date":"2012-09-21T16:37:48.716Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"it might be different in master.","date":"2012-09-21T16:38:38.805Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"now that v8 is newer","date":"2012-09-21T16:38:42.265Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"indutny","message":"isaacs: bad","date":"2012-09-21T16:46:51.331Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"ircretary: may be 0.9 then?","date":"2012-09-21T16:46:55.138Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ircretary","message":"indutny: I'm not sure what to do with that command.  Ask for help in PM.","date":"2012-09-21T16:46:55.419Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"isaacs: may be 0.9 then?","date":"2012-09-21T16:47:02.379Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"indutny: we can add api in 0.9 if it's good api :)","date":"2012-09-21T16:47:17.747Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"isaacs: it's not a js api","date":"2012-09-21T16:47:28.114Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"indutny: what's the function you want to add?","date":"2012-09-21T16:47:31.042Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"isaacs: and not exposed directly to users","date":"2012-09-21T16:47:33.964Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"isaacs: uv_wait()","date":"2012-09-21T16:47:35.941Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"well addons may depend on it, but they could say in package.json >= 0.8.10","date":"2012-09-21T16:49:39.814Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"tjfontaine: that's what I think too","date":"2012-09-21T16:50:08.076Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"it's not a big deal","date":"2012-09-21T16:50:11.994Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"but","date":"2012-09-21T16:50:17.247Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"probably it's a good think to help users move to 0.10.0","date":"2012-09-21T16:50:33.472Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"piscisaureus","message":"isaacs: alright, lgtmm","date":"2012-09-21T17:03:52.027Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"indutny: yeah, we can't put that in 0.8","date":"2012-09-21T17:04:54.721Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"that's an api addition.","date":"2012-09-21T17:04:57.895Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"plus, if we get too lazy aobut lumping features into stable, we'll enver be motivated to finish 0.10 :)","date":"2012-09-21T17:05:27.197Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"and no users will be motivated to upgrade to it","date":"2012-09-21T17:05:42.001Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"why don't we allow API additions?  To me it's the same as bugfixes from a dependency point of view","date":"2012-09-21T17:05:51.979Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"piscisaureus","message":"bnoordhuis, isaacs: can you review the openssl-asm branch?","date":"2012-09-21T17:05:55.479Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"the bug is my feature was missing/broken","date":"2012-09-21T17:05:58.149Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":";)","date":"2012-09-21T17:06:01.043Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus","message":"ircretary: tell bnoordhuis review the openssl-asm branch. It is slated for 0.8","date":"2012-09-21T17:06:35.427Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ircretary","message":"piscisaureus: I'll be sure to tell bnoordhuis","date":"2012-09-21T17:06:35.670Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"anyway, agreed on motivation to finish 0.10 and get people to upgrade","date":"2012-09-21T17:06:43.856Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"creationix: there have been a few exceptions","date":"2012-09-21T17:06:52.538Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"creationix: ie, require('sys') throws.  bug or feature?","date":"2012-09-21T17:07:00.563Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"api change?","date":"2012-09-21T17:07:06.244Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"so API mistakes can be fixes as bugfixes","date":"2012-09-21T17:07:30.064Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"but new ideas are additions","date":"2012-09-21T17:07:34.944Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"but the exceptions should be exceptional","date":"2012-09-21T17:07:36.848Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"not just \"but i really wannnnttttt iiiiittttt tho!!\"","date":"2012-09-21T17:07:52.294Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":":)","date":"2012-09-21T17:08:09.392Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"\"exceptions should be exceptional\" , I've been preaching that for years.  Programmers seem to focus too much on edge cases and forget that.","date":"2012-09-21T17:08:57.602Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"anyway, I'm fine with waiting till 0.10 to have GUI apps working properly with stock node","date":"2012-09-21T17:10:14.857Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"I can bundle my own node if I really care","date":"2012-09-21T17:10:20.278Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"creationix: well, tracing the edges is often the best way to get a handle on the shape of the program.","date":"2012-09-21T17:15:06.725Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"s/program/problem/","date":"2012-09-21T17:15:10.226Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"to write node-tar, i basically just handled the edge cases, and the rest was pretty easy.","date":"2012-09-21T17:15:25.240Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"isaacs","message":"piscisaureus: does the openssl-asm include the slab allocator/etc that mmalecki had landed in his fork?","date":"2012-09-21T17:27:49.229Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"oh, i guess, yeah... it's the slab allocator and the asm bits","date":"2012-09-21T17:28:13.821Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"so the slab allocator is the only bit that's missing.","date":"2012-09-21T17:29:13.963Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"creationix","message":"isaacs, btw, you explained the semver thread on the mailing list much better than I was able to","date":"2012-09-21T17:44:19.942Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"I guess owning npm gives you a unique perspective on packages and versining","date":"2012-09-21T17:44:34.391Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"isaacs","message":"creationix: yeah, it's been a huge part of my life for the last 3 years or so.","date":"2012-09-21T17:52:21.270Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":":)","date":"2012-09-21T17:52:23.226Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"also, i was having all these debates back in teh commonjs days","date":"2012-09-21T17:52:40.996Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"mostly, i just want to forestall any holy wars by pointing out that it's really just a way to communicate with one another, so you can just be kind of anarchic and liberal about it.","date":"2012-09-21T17:53:25.783Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"yeah, that's what I tried to explain","date":"2012-09-21T17:55:38.264Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"but I guess I'm not so good at promoting anarchy","date":"2012-09-21T17:55:45.878Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"isaacs","message":"creationix: it's the LG alignment that you wear on your sleeve :)","date":"2012-09-21T18:14:48.899Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"LG?","date":"2012-09-21T18:15:05.037Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"DnD reference","date":"2012-09-21T18:15:14.707Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"aww man, can't believe I don't get it.  i guess I didn't play enough DnD","date":"2012-09-21T18:15:31.696Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"ahh, lawful good","date":"2012-09-21T18:15:57.339Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":":)","date":"2012-09-21T18:15:59.500Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"isaacs","action":"is more like CG","date":"2012-09-21T18:24:42.226Z","type":"action"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"or sometimes TN","date":"2012-09-21T18:24:48.586Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"creationix","message":"I always enjoyed playing with CG characters.  They are fun, but not conscience searing.","date":"2012-09-21T18:32:09.210Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"in practice, i am actually TN","date":"2012-09-21T18:43:47.436Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"all dogmas are problematic, even the dogma of no-dogma","date":"2012-09-21T18:43:56.867Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"creationix","message":"alright, so childProcess's \"close\" event always fires after \"exit\" in 0.8.x?","date":"2012-09-21T19:15:13.302Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"also in 0.6.x I'm seeing cp.stdin's \"close\" emit after cp's \"exit\" event","date":"2012-09-21T19:16:20.079Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"is that known behavior or am I crazy?","date":"2012-09-21T19:16:41.579Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"CoverSlide","message":"is it common to have all your ASM code in perl files? or is OpenSSL just crazy like that?","date":"2012-09-21T19:45:37.710Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"creationix: re close/exit: that might be true","date":"2012-09-21T19:47:53.031Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"creationix: however there will be no more data events after exit in 0.6","date":"2012-09-21T19:48:03.783Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"CoverSlide: it's not that crazy. There are many different asm formats and platforms to care about. These perl file can generate all teh variants","date":"2012-09-21T19:49:27.034Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"CoverSlide","message":"oic","date":"2012-09-21T19:50:14.179Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"txdv","message":"guess whos back","date":"2012-09-21T20:46:02.408Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"why perl if you can use another batshit crazy language like bash","date":"2012-09-21T20:46:55.087Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"CoverSlide","message":"well perl would be preferable over bash","date":"2012-09-21T21:07:54.419Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"CoverSlide","message":"at least in certain scenarios. ","date":"2012-09-21T21:08:53.743Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"isaacs","message":"CoverSlide: it's like coffee-script, but a little bit easier to read.","date":"2012-09-21T21:27:59.429Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"isaacs","message":"ircretary: tell piscisaureus openssl-asm seems good to me.  running on npmjs.org","date":"2012-09-21T21:48:29.272Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ircretary","message":"isaacs: I'll be sure to tell piscisaureus","date":"2012-09-21T21:48:29.511Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"ircretary: i'm gonna have to get a new home for you.","date":"2012-09-21T21:48:38.071Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ircretary","message":"isaacs: I'm not sure what to do with that command.  Ask for help in PM.","date":"2012-09-21T21:48:38.311Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"TooTallNate","message":"isaacs: where is it running?","date":"2012-09-21T22:02:04.908Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"TooTallNate","message":"could you put it on one of the \"drones\"?","date":"2012-09-21T22:02:15.315Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"TooTallNate: you should be able to ssh into npmjs.org","date":"2012-09-21T22:06:46.628Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"TooTallNate: it's running on the NodeCore account","date":"2012-09-21T22:06:55.143Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"TooTallNate: ssh in as \"node\" or as \"root\"","date":"2012-09-21T22:07:05.175Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"TooTallNate","message":"isaacs: ircretary i mean","date":"2012-09-21T22:07:06.864Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"TooTallNate: oh, hahah","date":"2012-09-21T22:07:12.179Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"TooTallNate","message":":p","date":"2012-09-21T22:07:14.082Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"TooTallNate: she's on no.de somewhere","date":"2012-09-21T22:07:17.640Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"TooTallNate","message":"ya, haha, that's what I was guessing","date":"2012-09-21T22:07:29.146Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"isaacs","message":"in theory, i might be able to just provision one of those nodejs git push style zones, and put her there.","date":"2012-09-21T22:25:07.031Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"isaacs","message":"ircretary: how you feeling?","date":"2012-09-21T22:27:28.669Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ircretary","message":"isaacs: I'm not sure what to do with that command.  Ask for help in PM.","date":"2012-09-21T22:27:28.913Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"alright, she's up on a proper smartmachine","date":"2012-09-21T22:27:43.574Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"isaacs","message":"ircretary: notes","date":"2012-09-21T22:31:16.130Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ircretary","message":"isaacs: I don't have any notes for you.","date":"2012-09-21T22:31:16.443Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"hmm...","date":"2012-09-21T22:31:19.305Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"ircretary: watch","date":"2012-09-21T22:31:29.759Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"isaacs","message":"ok, now she's back, memory restored","date":"2012-09-21T22:34:07.785Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"oh, wow, i haven't checked my notes for about 2 weeks.","date":"2012-09-21T22:35:48.949Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"ok, i've got a nail in teh coffin at this point.  the hangs on npmjs.org are clearly my fault.","date":"2012-09-21T22:37:37.051Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"res.end() is apparently not getting called sometimes.","date":"2012-09-21T22:37:47.084Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"now i just need to figure out how that can happen.","date":"2012-09-21T22:37:56.011Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"txdv","message":"or just drink some beer!","date":"2012-09-21T22:52:29.045Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"CoverSlide","message":"the question is how to serve beer to the end user","date":"2012-09-21T22:53:14.718Z","type":"message"}
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