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{"nick":"c4milo","message":"hey guys, I'm writing a C/C++ addon and I can't get it to receive SIGINT signals. Do I have to do something special using libuv in order to handle signals in C/C++ land?","date":"2012-10-17T11:52:07.270Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"c4milo","message":"node v0.8.12 BTW ","date":"2012-10-17T11:52:36.941Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"c4milo","message":"piscisaureus_: any idea?","date":"2012-10-17T11:54:56.212Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"c4milo: ehm, are you using uv_signal or sigaction?","date":"2012-10-17T12:06:47.720Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"c4milo","message":"nop","date":"2012-10-17T12:07:03.005Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"c4milo","message":"I'm finishing fuse low level bindings","date":"2012-10-17T12:07:11.664Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"c4milo:","date":"2012-10-17T12:07:26.995Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"c4milo","message":"and using fuse_set_signal_handlers() ","date":"2012-10-17T12:07:45.491Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"ah","date":"2012-10-17T12:07:50.360Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"c4milo: libuv doesn't do anything with signals by default","date":"2012-10-17T12:08:30.872Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"c4milo: but it could be that the node repl also installs a SIGINT handler","date":"2012-10-17T12:08:45.534Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"c4milo: which would \"replace\" yours in that case","date":"2012-10-17T12:08:54.879Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"c4milo","message":"I see, I'm not using repl though ","date":"2012-10-17T12:09:00.199Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"c4milo","message":"it's weird, I don't understand fuse signal handlers don't get called :/ ","date":"2012-10-17T12:09:33.882Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"c4milo","message":"why* ","date":"2012-10-17T12:09:39.575Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"c4milo","message":"if I use process.on() on js land, the process doesn't handle SIGINT anymore","date":"2012-10-17T12:10:28.121Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"c4milo: you're doing process.on('SIGINT', ...) ?","date":"2012-10-17T12:11:05.280Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"c4milo","message":"ohh, I think nodejs is handling SIGINT somewhere, because the process finishes but fuse signal handlers don't get called (without using process.on())  ","date":"2012-10-17T12:11:35.200Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"c4milo","message":"piscisaureus_: I only did it to test, but I'm not using it ","date":"2012-10-17T12:11:48.703Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"c4milo: the default action for SIGINT is to exit","date":"2012-10-17T12:12:00.517Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"c4milo","message":"indeed ","date":"2012-10-17T12:12:10.773Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"c4milo: so you don't know whether it is handled :-)","date":"2012-10-17T12:12:19.730Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"c4milo: I think you should just run your thing in gdb","date":"2012-10-17T12:12:32.264Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"c4milo","message":"well in fuse I know","date":"2012-10-17T12:12:34.483Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"and then use kill -INT to send a sigint","date":"2012-10-17T12:12:42.454Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"c4milo","message":"because it doesn't call my cleanup functions ","date":"2012-10-17T12:12:46.022Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"c4milo","message":"gotcha ","date":"2012-10-17T12:12:52.602Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"c4milo","message":"yeah, I think I need to dig deeper now because I got stuck. So gdb will be. thanks piscisaureus_","date":"2012-10-17T12:13:32.485Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"hey sblom","date":"2012-10-17T16:18:53.780Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"you might find it a little silent here","date":"2012-10-17T16:19:00.222Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"that's because isaacs and bnoordhuis are off to a conference","date":"2012-10-17T16:19:08.972Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":":)","date":"2012-10-17T16:19:37.032Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"hey, indutny is alive?","date":"2012-10-17T16:19:46.081Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"s/?/!/","date":"2012-10-17T16:19:50.934Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"yes, I am","date":"2012-10-17T16:19:51.632Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"hi","date":"2012-10-17T16:19:56.173Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"indutny: sblom is the new node guy from msft","date":"2012-10-17T16:20:19.854Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"sblom: o hai!","date":"2012-10-17T16:20:28.743Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"his name is claudio?","date":"2012-10-17T16:20:35.585Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":":-)","date":"2012-10-17T16:20:41.991Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"no","date":"2012-10-17T16:20:42.607Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"it's Scott","date":"2012-10-17T16:20:45.169Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"oh","date":"2012-10-17T16:20:54.914Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"good","date":"2012-10-17T16:20:57.753Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"piscisaureus_: review https://github.com/joyent/node/pull/4156 ?","date":"2012-10-17T16:21:11.333Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"indutny: have you never spoken to Claudio? He is the program manager at msft (igorzi's boss)","date":"2012-10-17T16:21:21.058Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"seems to be working fine on osx","date":"2012-10-17T16:21:23.653Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"piscisaureus_: aah, nope I hadn't","date":"2012-10-17T16:21:32.106Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"indutny: I don't see how this change makes child processes close...","date":"2012-10-17T16:22:11.197Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"well it won't make it close","date":"2012-10-17T16:22:45.395Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"indutny: I just seen that it always emits SIGINT on the readling object (instead of only when it's not a terminal)","date":"2012-10-17T16:22:45.884Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"I don't follow last sentence","date":"2012-10-17T16:23:03.848Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"s/readling/readline/","date":"2012-10-17T16:23:24.909Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"aah","date":"2012-10-17T16:23:35.933Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"well","date":"2012-10-17T16:23:54.880Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"that's a cool thing","date":"2012-10-17T16:23:59.394Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"other way","date":"2012-10-17T16:24:15.681Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"is handling SIGHUP in child process","date":"2012-10-17T16:24:21.613Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"ok, I'll try it","date":"2012-10-17T16:24:50.141Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"indutny: I'm really confused now. The commit message says \"Receing SIGINT signal should not just close process, but close child process too.\"","date":"2012-10-17T16:25:15.679Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"indeed","date":"2012-10-17T16:25:27.395Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"that's what it is doing","date":"2012-10-17T16:25:30.409Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"indutny: the typo aside","date":"2012-10-17T16:25:31.683Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"indutny: so how does it work?","date":"2012-10-17T16:25:39.892Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"by default, master process isn't watching any signals","date":"2012-10-17T16:25:55.598Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"SIGINT on readline is not really a signal, but ^C listener","date":"2012-10-17T16:26:06.982Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"yeah","date":"2012-10-17T16:26:12.280Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"that's because when you put the tty in raw mode, ^C doesnt trigger sigint","date":"2012-10-17T16:26:29.900Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"yes","date":"2012-10-17T16:26:57.059Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"so","date":"2012-10-17T16:27:00.361Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"when some \"grand-parent\" process will send signal to master","date":"2012-10-17T16:27:17.093Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"it won't handle it and exit, leaving child process running","date":"2012-10-17T16:27:26.796Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"and SIGINT is apparently default signal for killing process","date":"2012-10-17T16:27:39.907Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"indutny: no that's SIGTERM","date":"2012-10-17T16:27:45.483Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"no","date":"2012-10-17T16:27:48.730Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"SIGTERM is a bad bad thing","date":"2012-10-17T16:27:54.297Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"indutny: ?","date":"2012-10-17T16:28:05.927Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"aah","date":"2012-10-17T16:28:31.045Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"that's SIGKILL","date":"2012-10-17T16:28:37.433Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"hmm","date":"2012-10-17T16:28:40.828Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"yeah, SIGTERM is fine","date":"2012-10-17T16:28:42.134Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"indutny: dude, you're the unix guy here, you're supposed to know this stuff :-)","date":"2012-10-17T16:30:00.544Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"haha","date":"2012-10-17T16:31:28.237Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"indutny: anyway, I can review your patch but you have to explain to me how it is supposed to work :-)","date":"2012-10-17T16:31:57.360Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"indutny: because it's not very obvious here","date":"2012-10-17T16:32:07.015Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"well, I need to explain this to myself first","date":"2012-10-17T16:32:10.373Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":":)","date":"2012-10-17T16:32:13.052Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"for example","date":"2012-10-17T16:32:16.372Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"ok","date":"2012-10-17T16:32:17.325Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"good","date":"2012-10-17T16:32:18.562Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"child process should receive SIGHUP when parent disconnects","date":"2012-10-17T16:32:29.117Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"yes","date":"2012-10-17T16:32:37.535Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"we could probably add --debug-child-process flag","date":"2012-10-17T16:32:41.723Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"unless they have disconnected from the session leader","date":"2012-10-17T16:32:47.335Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"oh","date":"2012-10-17T16:32:53.640Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"it'll propagate?","date":"2012-10-17T16:32:58.893Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"but that only happens when {detached: true} is set","date":"2012-10-17T16:33:05.847Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"well, debugger repl will exit on SIGHUP anyway","date":"2012-10-17T16:33:08.883Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"yeah, but the child processes wont receive that when they have setsid'ed","date":"2012-10-17T16:33:29.963Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"ok","date":"2012-10-17T16:33:40.718Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"indutny","message":"ok","date":"2012-10-17T16:34:39.742Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"so...","date":"2012-10-17T16:34:42.277Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"lets try listening to SIGHUP in child","date":"2012-10-17T16:34:49.095Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"it seems to be more correct","date":"2012-10-17T16:34:54.851Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"MI6","message":"\u0002joyent/node:\u0002 \u00033piscisaureus\u000f created branch upgrade-uv - http://git.io/KHqn2w","date":"2012-10-17T16:36:16.043Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"why does test-debugger-wait hang?","date":"2012-10-17T16:39:47.716Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"idk","date":"2012-10-17T16:44:06.981Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"where is it?","date":"2012-10-17T16:44:19.513Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"piscisaureus_: http://www.google.com/patents/US7028023","date":"2012-10-17T16:47:06.092Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"linked list patent","date":"2012-10-17T16:47:08.611Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"indutny: haha","date":"2012-10-17T16:54:53.054Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"indutny: luckily there isn't an abundance of prior art","date":"2012-10-17T16:55:09.124Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"indutny: but the ptrAux thing is somewhat funky, I don't think this is really useful except in really particular circumstances","date":"2012-10-17T16:55:48.830Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":":)","date":"2012-10-17T17:00:56.271Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"so","date":"2012-10-17T17:01:02.336Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"both my patch and SIGHUP doesn't help here","date":"2012-10-17T17:01:11.352Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"unfortunatelly","date":"2012-10-17T17:01:13.354Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"indutny","message":"and I don't understand why...","date":"2012-10-17T17:05:00.313Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"ah","date":"2012-10-17T17:05:17.115Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"all because of SIGKILL","date":"2012-10-17T17:05:20.783Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"piscisaureus_: https://github.com/joyent/node/pull/4156/files","date":"2012-10-17T17:08:59.179Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"does this version need comments?","date":"2012-10-17T17:09:12.165Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"indutny: I still don't get why the debuggee doesn't get SIGHUP when the parent is killed","date":"2012-10-17T17:10:56.561Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"will take a look myself","date":"2012-10-17T17:11:01.306Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"with SIGKILL?","date":"2012-10-17T17:11:04.929Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"yes","date":"2012-10-17T17:11:10.233Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"dunno :)","date":"2012-10-17T17:11:56.542Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"we need ben for this","date":"2012-10-17T17:11:58.821Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"TooTallNate","message":"what's best way to overwrite n bytes at the beginning of a file with a Buffer in node?","date":"2012-10-17T17:23:10.021Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"pretty sure ref counting is broken somehow","date":"2012-10-17T17:23:32.070Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"TooTallNate","message":"i don't think writeFile() would work in this case","date":"2012-10-17T17:23:34.469Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"but not sure yet how...","date":"2012-10-17T17:23:37.840Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"how did it become so complex? what happened to loop->active_cnt ?","date":"2012-10-17T17:24:01.068Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"ryah: where?","date":"2012-10-17T17:24:06.390Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"in libuv","date":"2012-10-17T17:24:10.132Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"in uv","date":"2012-10-17T17:24:10.333Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"well, active_cnt is gone","date":"2012-10-17T17:24:20.650Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"ref count is per handle now","date":"2012-10-17T17:24:24.653Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"ill try to get a test case...","date":"2012-10-17T17:24:41.155Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"there's always uv_walk","date":"2012-10-17T17:24:42.650Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"it's still possible to have a uv_prepare_t be referenced?","date":"2012-10-17T17:27:25.008Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"ryah: uv_prepare_t should reference when it is started","date":"2012-10-17T17:28:38.080Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"ryah: uv_loop_t.active_handles is the reference count","date":"2012-10-17T17:29:35.975Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"im unrefing it right after uv_prepare_init and then refing it occasionally ","date":"2012-10-17T17:31:11.287Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"ryah: what do you want to achieve. You should probably never unref it","date":"2012-10-17T17:31:37.386Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"ryah: semantics changed here","date":"2012-10-17T17:31:44.879Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"ryah: the mere presence of the handle doesn't keep the loop alive. It keep the loop alive only when it is started.","date":"2012-10-17T17:32:04.651Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"what happens if i unref a handle before it's started?","date":"2012-10-17T17:33:26.590Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"does that prevent it from adding to the active_handles when it is started?","date":"2012-10-17T17:33:57.107Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"or is it ignored?","date":"2012-10-17T17:34:04.876Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"piscisaureus_: apparently there're no new assembly files for 586 and x86_64 in master, other than rc4-md5","date":"2012-10-17T17:34:05.431Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"ryah: yes","date":"2012-10-17T17:34:05.656Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"piscisaureus_: updated PR https://github.com/joyent/node/pull/4139","date":"2012-10-17T17:34:15.682Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"indutny: ok, will take a look","date":"2012-10-17T17:34:22.446Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"though there're one warning","date":"2012-10-17T17:34:25.798Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","action":"ld: warning: _OPENSSL_ia32cap_P has different visibility (hidden) in libopenssl.a(openssl.x86_64cpuid.o) and (default) in libopenssl.a(openssl.cryptlib.o)","date":"2012-10-17T17:34:37.475Z","type":"action"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"ryah: you can also ref() a handle that is already started and then it will keep the loop alive again","date":"2012-10-17T17:35:04.149Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"indutny","message":"nvm","date":"2012-10-17T17:36:08.279Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"indutny: you are probably forgetting to set some preprocessor definbe","date":"2012-10-17T17:36:08.479Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"just fixed it","date":"2012-10-17T17:36:09.935Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"though, I've monkey-patched openssl","date":"2012-10-17T17:36:33.674Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"assembly file was incorrect","date":"2012-10-17T17:36:40.720Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"oh wait","date":"2012-10-17T17:36:55.668Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"no it wasn't","date":"2012-10-17T17:36:57.598Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"ah","date":"2012-10-17T17:37:09.908Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"no it was","date":"2012-10-17T17:37:11.315Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"OPENSSL_ia32cap_P is a two item integer array","date":"2012-10-17T17:37:33.888Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"huh","date":"2012-10-17T17:37:46.141Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"so it should have default visibility","date":"2012-10-17T17:37:48.554Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"indutny: no it is a pointer","date":"2012-10-17T17:37:53.774Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"indutny: to that","date":"2012-10-17T17:37:56.488Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"unsigned int  OPENSSL_ia32cap_P[2];","date":"2012-10-17T17:38:03.932Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"well","date":"2012-10-17T17:38:08.226Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"it's both","date":"2012-10-17T17:38:10.757Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":";)","date":"2012-10-17T17:38:11.930Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"how can I hide it in .c file?","date":"2012-10-17T17:38:51.085Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"meh, it's simplier to remove \".hidden\" prefix in assembly","date":"2012-10-17T17:39:16.250Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"is ref handling cross platform?","date":"2012-10-17T17:39:35.828Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"seems like it","date":"2012-10-17T17:39:37.615Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"indeed it is","date":"2012-10-17T17:40:09.328Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"ryah: yes, it is","date":"2012-10-17T17:41:22.424Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"ryah: there are some rough edges :-) But you will not run into them and I will fix it soon.","date":"2012-10-17T17:41:37.120Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"(but for correctness sake they will be fixed anyway)","date":"2012-10-17T17:41:54.697Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"wut?","date":"2012-10-17T17:42:49.158Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":":)","date":"2012-10-17T17:43:21.718Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"#ifndef _WIN32","date":"2012-10-17T17:43:56.886Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"enum { UV__HANDLE_INTERNAL = 0x8000, UV__HANDLE_ACTIVE   = 0x4000, UV__HANDLE_REF      = 0x2000, UV__HANDLE_CLOSING  = 0 /* no-op on unix */","date":"2012-10-17T17:43:57.089Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"};","date":"2012-10-17T17:43:59.889Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"#else","date":"2012-10-17T17:44:02.401Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"# define UV__HANDLE_INTERNAL  0x80","date":"2012-10-17T17:44:04.896Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"# define UV__HANDLE_ACTIVE    0x40","date":"2012-10-17T17:44:07.403Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"# define UV__HANDLE_REF       0x20","date":"2012-10-17T17:44:09.904Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"# define UV__HANDLE_CLOSING   0x01","date":"2012-10-17T17:44:12.411Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"#endif","date":"2012-10-17T17:44:14.922Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"^-- really? -_-","date":"2012-10-17T17:44:17.417Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"ryah: yeah we have to go over that with sed :-)","date":"2012-10-17T17:44:40.377Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"ahahah","date":"2012-10-17T17:44:51.620Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"ryah: the problem is that all the handle flags are platform specific except these","date":"2012-10-17T17:44:57.667Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"piscisaureus_: ++","date":"2012-10-17T17:44:58.037Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kohai","message":"piscisaureus_ has 17 beers","date":"2012-10-17T17:44:58.241Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"lets start by this","date":"2012-10-17T17:45:15.618Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"ryah: I think UV__HANDLE_CLOSING will also be on unix","date":"2012-10-17T17:45:19.324Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"UV__HANDLE_INTERAL = 0x8080","date":"2012-10-17T17:45:21.106Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"just duplicate bytes ;)","date":"2012-10-17T17:45:31.054Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"on all platforms","date":"2012-10-17T17:45:35.081Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"indutny: that looks like a crappy value for flags :-)","date":"2012-10-17T17:45:35.373Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":":D","date":"2012-10-17T17:45:35.658Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"haha","date":"2012-10-17T17:45:43.779Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"indutny--","date":"2012-10-17T17:45:43.982Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kohai","message":"indutny has 33 beers","date":"2012-10-17T17:45:44.181Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"good enough","date":"2012-10-17T17:46:00.426Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"indutny---","date":"2012-10-17T17:46:06.866Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kohai","message":"indutny has 32 beers","date":"2012-10-17T17:46:07.062Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"0x8080, 0x4040, 0x2020, 0x0101","date":"2012-10-17T17:46:07.540Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"and it'll work on all plaforms","date":"2012-10-17T17:46:15.285Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"without sed","date":"2012-10-17T17:46:19.151Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"indutny: sigh","date":"2012-10-17T17:46:30.639Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"indutny: you're wrong","date":"2012-10-17T17:46:38.981Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"indutny: and indexzero is squatting ind<tab> :-(","date":"2012-10-17T17:46:47.747Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indexzero","message":"VICTORY!","date":"2012-10-17T17:47:15.990Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indexzero","message":"[off topic] ryah: Dean McNamee is speaking at EmpireJS on Monday in NYC. If you're around I could hook you up with a ticket","date":"2012-10-17T17:48:00.993Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"hahah","date":"2012-10-17T17:48:14.667Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"inddutny","message":"piscisaureus_: try it now","date":"2012-10-17T17:48:29.180Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"inddutny","message":";)","date":"2012-10-17T17:48:35.849Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"hmm","date":"2012-10-17T17:48:39.995Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"inddutny","message":"oh","date":"2012-10-17T17:48:40.195Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"no","date":"2012-10-17T17:48:40.555Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"inddutny","message":"still","date":"2012-10-17T17:48:41.940Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"inddutny","new_nick":"indautny","date":"2012-10-17T17:48:47.802Z","type":"nick"}
{"nick":"indautny","message":"haha","date":"2012-10-17T17:48:50.777Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"yay","date":"2012-10-17T17:48:57.364Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indautny","message":"still doesn't work","date":"2012-10-17T17:49:12.610Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indautny","message":"may be just","date":"2012-10-17T17:49:16.104Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"wfm","date":"2012-10-17T17:49:18.895Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indautny","new_nick":"ind","date":"2012-10-17T17:49:19.667Z","type":"nick"}
{"nick":"ind","message":"ok","date":"2012-10-17T17:49:23.697Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"ryah: we also take patches btw :_)","date":"2012-10-17T17:49:38.796Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ind","message":"ryah isn't sending patches anymore","date":"2012-10-17T17:49:53.239Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"never say never","date":"2012-10-17T17:50:04.586Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ind","message":"he feels like github became alexander sphere for him","date":"2012-10-17T17:50:07.183Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ind","message":"piscisaureus_: while two main guys are on conference","date":"2012-10-17T17:50:57.351Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ind","message":"lets refactor all C++ parts of node","date":"2012-10-17T17:51:03.791Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ind","message":"silently","date":"2012-10-17T17:51:07.151Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"ind: you have good ideas for that?","date":"2012-10-17T17:51:20.125Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ind","message":"yes","date":"2012-10-17T17:51:25.293Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"ind: sure, go ahead","date":"2012-10-17T17:51:31.295Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ind","message":"lets rewrite them in C#","date":"2012-10-17T17:51:31.945Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"...","date":"2012-10-17T17:51:40.494Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ind","message":"we'll loose some users","date":"2012-10-17T17:51:41.966Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"rendar","message":"lol","date":"2012-10-17T17:51:47.270Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ind","message":"but that's so good","date":"2012-10-17T17:51:52.939Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ind","message":"await and everything","date":"2012-10-17T17:52:14.563Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ind","message":"strong type system","date":"2012-10-17T17:52:18.057Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ind","message":"and garbage collection","date":"2012-10-17T17:52:22.590Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"well, I'd like to have await in node","date":"2012-10-17T17:52:28.352Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ind","message":"see ^^^","date":"2012-10-17T17:52:36.593Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ind","message":"that's the point","date":"2012-10-17T17:52:39.830Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"I like the sugar in c#","date":"2012-10-17T17:52:49.862Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"rendar","message":"await can be doable with std::async in C++ maybe?","date":"2012-10-17T17:53:48.149Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"no","date":"2012-10-17T17:54:31.645Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ind","message":"it can be done in JS","date":"2012-10-17T17:54:36.233Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ind","message":";)","date":"2012-10-17T17:54:38.838Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"yes","date":"2012-10-17T17:54:46.880Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"rendar","message":"yes, directly in js, interesting","date":"2012-10-17T17:55:10.245Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"ind","message":"has anyone tested tlsnappy?","date":"2012-10-17T17:55:38.401Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ind","message":"I haven't really got a chance to test it on other systems than ubuntu and osx","date":"2012-10-17T17:55:58.771Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ind","message":"also we need to bundle latest node-gyp in node","date":"2012-10-17T17:56:18.509Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"ryah","message":"ok nevermind just a bad reinterpret_cast","date":"2012-10-17T17:58:50.079Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"ryah: haha","date":"2012-10-17T17:59:12.773Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":":)","date":"2012-10-17T17:59:49.643Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"ryah: I was sad that you disliked the new refcounting, because I'm really happy with it. And it basically solved all the issues in node","date":"2012-10-17T17:59:51.900Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"ryah: good to hear that :-)","date":"2012-10-17T17:59:56.093Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"i just don't like having to change my mental model of how things work :)","date":"2012-10-17T18:00:30.866Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ind","message":":)","date":"2012-10-17T18:00:36.562Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"ryah: you're getting old ;-)","date":"2012-10-17T18:00:47.817Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"would be nice if those handle->flags weren't differnt cross platform","date":"2012-10-17T18:00:52.754Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"ryah: we want to fix this indeed.","date":"2012-10-17T18:01:01.048Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"got confused which was which for a while","date":"2012-10-17T18:01:06.256Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"ryah: some flags will always be platform-specific","date":"2012-10-17T18:01:11.248Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"ryah: but the \"shared\" flags should just be 0x1, 0x2, 0x4, 0x8","date":"2012-10-17T18:01:27.932Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"MI6","message":"\u0002joyent/node:\u0002 \u00033Bert Belder\u000f \u00037master\u000f * \u0002c11c19b\u0002 : uv: upgrade to 1e32cb0 - http://git.io/WPQBRA","date":"2012-10-17T18:14:04.780Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"ryah: are you trying to troll the functional guys?","date":"2012-10-17T18:25:24.888Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"txdv","message":"why no c#","date":"2012-10-17T18:27:15.278Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"i just think most people don't think about this stuff much, and i do - so thought i should give my opinion :)","date":"2012-10-17T18:28:08.416Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"txdv: why c# ?","date":"2012-10-17T18:29:07.851Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"there is no reason","date":"2012-10-17T18:29:14.988Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"therefore death","date":"2012-10-17T18:29:24.507Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"big pusher of features compared to other languages","date":"2012-10-17T18:30:03.346Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"let's just make 1 language","date":"2012-10-17T18:30:18.503Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"that has all the features","date":"2012-10-17T18:30:21.353Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"yes","date":"2012-10-17T18:30:25.176Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"whaha","date":"2012-10-17T18:30:29.675Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"let's go back to the 1980s with C and unix","date":"2012-10-17T18:30:33.193Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"seriously","date":"2012-10-17T18:30:35.419Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"back when syscalls were 10 lines of code","date":"2012-10-17T18:30:48.945Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"People create languages because they don't like camelCase and would like to see a version of the BCL in CamelCase","date":"2012-10-17T18:33:27.589Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"the good old days","date":"2012-10-17T18:36:10.071Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"when the air was clean and sex was dirty","date":"2012-10-17T18:36:19.560Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"CoverSlide","message":"let's make a js engine in pascal","date":"2012-10-17T18:37:21.222Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"libuv is naked C, though it is designed for node, which uses v8 c++","date":"2012-10-17T18:38:21.717Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"why","date":"2012-10-17T18:38:23.463Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"CoverSlide","message":"mode of node is in C","date":"2012-10-17T18:38:46.914Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"CoverSlide","message":"mostly just the stuff that touches v8 is in C++","date":"2012-10-17T18:39:00.920Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"em, yeah, because most of node is libuv","date":"2012-10-17T18:39:32.298Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"CoverSlide","message":"even before libuv","date":"2012-10-17T18:40:12.611Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"before libuv there was libev","date":"2012-10-17T18:40:21.806Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"CoverSlide","message":"libev was in c, libeio was in c, ares was in c","date":"2012-10-17T18:42:10.958Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"they still all are","date":"2012-10-17T18:42:24.516Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"txdv: to not upset the c people","date":"2012-10-17T18:42:30.090Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"txdv","message":"I c ppl","date":"2012-10-17T18:42:50.640Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"also symbol mangling is really annoying","date":"2012-10-17T18:42:51.555Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"O yeah, that one really sucks","date":"2012-10-17T18:43:15.215Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"it would be okay if it was standardized","date":"2012-10-17T18:43:33.758Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"it would be okay if i never had to see mangled symbols","date":"2012-10-17T18:44:09.554Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"but unfortuantely you spend all day staring at them","date":"2012-10-17T18:44:18.341Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"it will never be","date":"2012-10-17T18:44:23.125Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"txdv","message":"this is one of those things which technology could solve easily","date":"2012-10-17T18:45:01.203Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"txdv","message":"but people just don't want for some reason to agree upon a standard","date":"2012-10-17T18:45:17.442Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"sunk cost","date":"2012-10-17T18:45:42.553Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"if you change it then all compiled libraries stop working","date":"2012-10-17T18:45:53.559Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"ok, that's not really sunk cost -- path dependency","date":"2012-10-17T18:46:13.911Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"the gcc people didn't have a problem with breaking it once already","date":"2012-10-17T18:46:24.354Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"we're going to fix this whole \"computer problem\"","date":"2012-10-17T18:46:27.705Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"we're going back to steam engines?","date":"2012-10-17T18:46:49.434Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"in what ways did the computer replace the steam engine","date":"2012-10-17T18:47:15.235Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"we're going back to a simple proceedural interafce that is fast and works","date":"2012-10-17T18:47:16.366Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ryah","message":"*procedural","date":"2012-10-17T18:47:33.399Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"txdv: in the times of the industial revolution, people worked in factories and what they'd do was dictated by what the steam engine could drive.","date":"2012-10-17T18:48:30.904Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"txdv: nowadays it's the computer","date":"2012-10-17T18:48:42.198Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"we all now work in front of computers","date":"2012-10-17T18:48:52.927Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"but that's where you are wrong, I live in front of my computer","date":"2012-10-17T18:49:07.299Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"I wonder if I should expose uv_loop_new() to js in node","date":"2012-10-17T18:56:51.441Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"to what end?","date":"2012-10-17T18:57:06.282Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"it'd make spawnSync very easy","date":"2012-10-17T18:57:12.806Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"ah","date":"2012-10-17T18:57:24.700Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"spawnSync?","date":"2012-10-17T18:57:43.430Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"o the sync variant of spawn","date":"2012-10-17T18:57:59.819Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"var loop = new process.binding('loop').Loop()","date":"2012-10-17T18:58:16.024Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"I have a use case where I use uv via ffi, it would be interesting if we exposed the whole damn thing :P","date":"2012-10-17T18:58:34.321Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"ffi?","date":"2012-10-17T18:58:50.797Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"what ffi?","date":"2012-10-17T18:58:52.408Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"node-ffi","date":"2012-10-17T18:59:00.549Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"ffi in node exposing the libuv API?","date":"2012-10-17T18:59:13.503Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"exec('echo ola', function(err, stdout, stderr) {","date":"2012-10-17T18:59:17.881Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"  saved_stout = stdout;","date":"2012-10-17T18:59:18.081Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"}, {loop: loop} );","date":"2012-10-17T18:59:18.081Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"process.binding('loop').run(loop);","date":"2012-10-17T18:59:26.475Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"process.binding('loop').delete(loop);","date":"2012-10-17T18:59:32.316Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"txdv: well I just have to use the process it doesn't actually rely on libuv.so","date":"2012-10-17T18:59:37.643Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"return { stdout: saved_stdout, ... }","date":"2012-10-17T18:59:40.402Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"^-- so nice :-)","date":"2012-10-17T18:59:46.515Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"piscisaureus_: make it so then :)","date":"2012-10-17T19:00:09.072Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"I am afraid that people will abuse it","date":"2012-10-17T19:00:19.034Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"to make sync networking etc","date":"2012-10-17T19:00:26.115Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"caveat emptor","date":"2012-10-17T19:00:37.386Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"isaacs: ryah: TooTallNate: opinions on that?","date":"2012-10-17T19:01:03.829Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"it's not going to be a true module, just internal, I don't see a reason why not that's how you handle timers right now as well","date":"2012-10-17T19:01:36.469Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"it'd be really nice to have a low-level uv binding like in luvit","date":"2012-10-17T19:03:02.761Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"it makes sense to have thin wrappers and to do as much plumbing in the js side as possible, in my estimation","date":"2012-10-17T19:03:37.130Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"well, from a maintainability perspectve, yes","date":"2012-10-17T19:03:57.577Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"balancing the number of times you cross the barrier of course","date":"2012-10-17T19:04:08.838Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"but not from a performance perspective unfortunately","date":"2012-10-17T19:04:09.037Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"txdv","message":"so you want to write a libuv binding with node-ffi?","date":"2012-10-17T19:08:47.658Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"txdv: over my dead body :-)","date":"2012-10-17T19:09:05.681Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"I don't think anyone is really advocating that","date":"2012-10-17T19:09:08.944Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"txdv: I just (maybe) want libuv bindings the good old fashion hard-work way","date":"2012-10-17T19:09:26.401Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"I have a small use case where I plumb uv_poll though","date":"2012-10-17T19:09:28.944Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"that would be even more work","date":"2012-10-17T19:09:59.035Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"without threads in node I don't see many applicable scenarios","date":"2012-10-17T19:10:40.841Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"node has no built in threads","date":"2012-10-17T19:12:11.785Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"i mean v8","date":"2012-10-17T19:12:14.546Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"I'm gonna go home","date":"2012-10-17T19:13:52.201Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"big party tonight","date":"2012-10-17T19:14:01.320Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"see you all later","date":"2012-10-17T19:14:06.104Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"no, you code","date":"2012-10-17T19:14:07.627Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"enjoy","date":"2012-10-17T19:14:10.461Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"hopefully","date":"2012-10-17T19:14:23.744Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"no, you code","date":"2012-10-17T19:14:32.719Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"bradleymeck","message":"piscisaureus_: do you know cli stuff on windows? how to spawn something with `runas` and have pipes connected for .fork to work?","date":"2012-10-17T19:46:57.123Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"bradleymeck: don't know. CreateProcessAsUser I think","date":"2012-10-17T20:44:36.651Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"i'm away for one day and already bert is slacking off","date":"2012-10-17T21:05:19.127Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mmalecki","message":"lol","date":"2012-10-17T21:06:31.753Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"mmalecki[party]","message":"bnoordhuis: boat didn't leave, soooo","date":"2012-10-17T21:31:38.729Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"TooTallNate","message":"isaacs: are we gonna offer like a Tee stream or something? the lack of being able to pipe to multiple writables is hurting me right now","date":"2012-10-17T21:43:50.075Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"txdv","message":"are there bindings for dart?","date":"2012-10-17T21:48:50.100Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"CoverSlide","message":"i dont think so","date":"2012-10-17T21:52:48.785Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"txdv","message":"all their apis are async anyway","date":"2012-10-17T22:00:55.071Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"no async keyword","date":"2012-10-17T22:02:24.369Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"CoverSlide","message":"dart has futures","date":"2012-10-17T22:07:17.672Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"rphillips","message":"does anyone know why uv_tcp_connect might be throwing an unknown error?","date":"2012-10-17T22:13:34.346Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"seebees","message":"has anyone used v8::Object::GetHiddenValue and v8::Object::SetHiddenValue in node?","date":"2012-10-17T22:35:31.015Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"TooTallNate","message":"ircretary: tell isaacs here's a quick POC Tee stream class. What do you think? I think it will be necessary for core. https://gist.github.com/3908775","date":"2012-10-17T22:36:21.354Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ircretary","message":"TooTallNate: I'll be sure to tell isaacs","date":"2012-10-17T22:36:21.555Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"TooTallNate","message":"ircretary: tell isaacs also, it's probably too late now, but having a \"readable\" event implies \"multiple listeners\" to me, which is a false assumption now since readable streams can only be read by one consumer. Maybe an _readable() function would have been better *shrug*","date":"2012-10-17T22:46:52.075Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ircretary","message":"TooTallNate: I'll be sure to tell isaacs","date":"2012-10-17T22:46:52.279Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"TooTallNate","message":"ircretary: tell isaacs it might be nice if .pipe() threw if it's already being piped to somewhere else (it might already do that, haven't checked yet)","date":"2012-10-17T22:47:27.300Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ircretary","message":"TooTallNate: I'll be sure to tell isaacs","date":"2012-10-17T22:47:27.500Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"saghul: nice amount of tests","date":"2012-10-17T23:07:50.486Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"saghul","message":"txdv where?","date":"2012-10-17T23:08:08.399Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"txdv","message":"in pyuv","date":"2012-10-17T23:08:39.448Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"saghul","message":"oh, thanks! :-)","date":"2012-10-17T23:08:56.843Z","type":"message"}
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