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{"nick":"indutny","message":"isaacs: hey man","date":"2013-11-08T06:26:28.778Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"isaacs: because it doesn't work","date":"2013-11-08T06:26:33.898Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"isaacs: since we're inside ._read()","date":"2013-11-08T06:26:45.715Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"indutny: when you land changes in libuv v0.10, please merge them into master afterwards","date":"2013-11-08T12:33:17.638Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"well","date":"2013-11-08T12:35:28.592Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"I was thinking about eventually doing it","date":"2013-11-08T12:35:34.776Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"but didn't want to do it too often","date":"2013-11-08T12:35:49.181Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"bnoordhuis: mind finishing this https://github.com/joyent/node/pull/6061/files ?","date":"2013-11-08T12:35:56.861Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"can't. busy resolving merge conflicts :-/","date":"2013-11-08T12:36:33.403Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"argh, that fsevents filepath encoding fix completely doesn't apply to master","date":"2013-11-08T12:43:10.076Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"i hate having to resolve merge conflicts for things i don't care about in the first place >:-(","date":"2013-11-08T12:43:34.394Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"well, too bad. i'm dropping it. someone who cares can try to fix it in master","date":"2013-11-08T12:47:14.220Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"ah wait, guess i can get it to work in master after all","date":"2013-11-08T12:48:48.703Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"that's going into a separate commit though","date":"2013-11-08T12:49:31.682Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"indutny","message":"ok :)","date":"2013-11-08T12:52:18.898Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"indutny","message":"bnoordhuis: so... need any help merging v0.10 into master?","date":"2013-11-08T13:06:49.976Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"MI6","message":"\u0002joyent/libuv:\u0002 \u00033Ben Noordhuis\u000f \u00037master\u000f * \u0002b1b931d\u0002 : fsevents: use native character encoding file paths (+6 more commits) - http://git.io/S5cYPg","date":"2013-11-08T13:10:29.801Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"indutny: ^","date":"2013-11-08T13:10:34.691Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"thanks","date":"2013-11-08T13:10:40.812Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"in the future, please do an up-merge every time you land something in v0.10","date":"2013-11-08T13:11:00.040Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"oh","date":"2013-11-08T13:11:01.830Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"well","date":"2013-11-08T13:11:02.436Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"bnoordhuis: np","date":"2013-11-08T13:11:07.536Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"will do","date":"2013-11-08T13:11:08.570Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"cheers","date":"2013-11-08T13:11:14.147Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"heh","date":"2013-11-08T13:11:20.292Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"cya","date":"2013-11-08T13:11:21.073Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"ffs... test/run-tests.o:(.data+0xfd0): undefined reference to `run_test_watcher_cross_stop'","date":"2013-11-08T13:22:09.999Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"indutny","message":"bnoordhuis: hrm","date":"2013-11-08T13:26:57.708Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"MI6","message":"\u0002joyent/libuv:\u0002 \u00033Ben Noordhuis\u000f \u00037master\u000f * \u0002fd72366\u0002 : build: add test/test-watcher-cross-stop.c to list - http://git.io/zEQJ-Q","date":"2013-11-08T13:27:20.111Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"indutny","message":"github feels really bad today","date":"2013-11-08T13:54:46.721Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"bnoordhuis: https://github.com/joyent/libuv/pull/989","date":"2013-11-08T13:55:22.105Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"%FunctionGetSourcePosition <-- Why is there no exposed api for that? :(","date":"2013-11-08T15:20:42.148Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"Ok here's a fun node crasher","date":"2013-11-08T15:39:56.578Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"C:\\Users\\Bert Belder>node","date":"2013-11-08T15:40:17.025Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"piscisaureus_","message":"> delete process","date":"2013-11-08T15:40:17.243Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"indutny","message":"hahaha","date":"2013-11-08T16:28:40.960Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"isaacs: yt?","date":"2013-11-08T16:29:11.884Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"MI6","message":"\u0002joyent/libuv:\u0002 \u00033Ben Noordhuis\u000f \u00037master\u000f * \u000224bfef2\u0002 : linux: handle EPOLLHUP without EPOLLIN/EPOLLOUT - http://git.io/ZN4TZQ","date":"2013-11-08T16:29:56.641Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"MI6","message":"\u0002joyent/libuv:\u0002 \u00033Ben Noordhuis\u000f \u00037v0.10\u000f * \u00020c76cdb\u0002 : linux: handle EPOLLHUP without EPOLLIN/EPOLLOUT - http://git.io/kLDJjQ","date":"2013-11-08T16:30:01.662Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"indutny","message":"bnoordhuis: +1 :)","date":"2013-11-08T16:33:47.903Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":":)","date":"2013-11-08T16:34:00.400Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"bnoordhuis: http://dashersw.github.io/pedalboard.js/demo/","date":"2013-11-08T16:37:15.223Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"what's that?","date":"2013-11-08T16:39:54.451Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"rendar","message":"bnoordhuis, interesting...so basically epoll() returns EPOLLHUP or EPOLLER without flagging also EPOLLIN/OUT even when it should (when there is data to read/write), so you add those flags manually?","date":"2013-11-08T16:40:14.348Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"rendar: it's part epoll quirk, part libuv shortcoming. the comment in linux-core.c explains it (at least, i hope it does)","date":"2013-11-08T16:42:51.785Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"rendar","message":"oh yeah, i'm reading just that","date":"2013-11-08T16:43:23.476Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"bnoordhuis: you must be kiding","date":"2013-11-08T16:43:37.623Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"kidding*","date":"2013-11-08T16:43:40.238Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"bnoordhuis: about removing RECURSIVE flag","date":"2013-11-08T16:43:47.521Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"that was the only reason I worked on FSEvents","date":"2013-11-08T16:43:56.510Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"and","date":"2013-11-08T16:44:06.577Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"its faster in RECURSIVE mode","date":"2013-11-08T16:44:19.125Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"because it does less string comparisons","date":"2013-11-08T16:44:28.942Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"do i ever jest?","date":"2013-11-08T16:45:32.781Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"if he's right about it only working sometimes, then it's broken by definition","date":"2013-11-08T16:45:46.601Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"and knowing apple, that wouldn't surprise me","date":"2013-11-08T16:45:59.331Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"indutny","message":"bnoordhuis: well, it works all the time on osx","date":"2013-11-08T16:48:09.890Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"bnoordhuis: what he's right about","date":"2013-11-08T16:48:15.794Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"is that FSEventStreamStart might fail","date":"2013-11-08T16:48:23.123Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"and that is something rare","date":"2013-11-08T16:48:35.619Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"happening to only few people","date":"2013-11-08T16:48:42.338Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"in extreme conditions","date":"2013-11-08T16:48:49.666Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"MI6","message":"\u0002joyent/node:\u0002 \u00033Ben Noordhuis\u000f \u00037master\u000f * \u00023facd4e\u0002 : crypto: unbreak build with no-NPN shared openssl - http://git.io/7yc7eQ","date":"2013-11-08T16:50:11.116Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"bnoordhuis: who has reviewed that commit?","date":"2013-11-08T16:51:13.123Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"indutny: jas in #node.js :)","date":"2013-11-08T16:51:30.679Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"haha, ok then","date":"2013-11-08T16:51:42.871Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"indutny: re UV_FS_EVENT_RECURSIVE, we'll do it like this: we leave it in for now","date":"2013-11-08T16:51:51.778Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"I thought that we normally open PRs before pushing stuf in","date":"2013-11-08T16:51:54.840Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"but the first bug report that gets filed, bam! i remove it","date":"2013-11-08T16:52:00.825Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"bnoordhuis: meh","date":"2013-11-08T16:52:06.824Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"bnoordhuis: you can remove me from contributors as well","date":"2013-11-08T16:52:14.720Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"that's your choice","date":"2013-11-08T16:52:24.849Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"I don't feel like spending my time is worth removing stuff, when bugs are reported","date":"2013-11-08T16:52:44.087Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"and you already did it","date":"2013-11-08T16:52:48.101Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"once","date":"2013-11-08T16:52:50.859Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"hrm... I guess you got it, though phrase was incorrect","date":"2013-11-08T16:53:13.340Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"s/removing/removed/ perhaps","date":"2013-11-08T16:53:26.441Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"it's not about you, fedor. neither is it about me","date":"2013-11-08T16:55:02.424Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"node and libuv are used by a lot of people","date":"2013-11-08T16:55:12.519Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"indeed","date":"2013-11-08T16:55:25.945Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"it has to be stable, bug free. anything that endangers that is out","date":"2013-11-08T16:55:34.395Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"ok, next epoll bug should remove it from core","date":"2013-11-08T16:55:46.143Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"I mean whole epoll","date":"2013-11-08T16:55:51.420Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"we'll do select() on linux","date":"2013-11-08T16:55:59.296Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"stop being petty, fedor","date":"2013-11-08T16:56:04.918Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"bnoordhuis: what I mean, is that there should be discussion","date":"2013-11-08T16:56:11.145Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"and arguments","date":"2013-11-08T16:56:16.164Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"not a veto","date":"2013-11-08T16:56:20.217Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"when am i not open to discussion?","date":"2013-11-08T16:57:45.229Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"i know you're going to trot out that v0.10 fsevents thing now :)","date":"2013-11-08T16:58:04.091Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"no, I'm not going anymore :)","date":"2013-11-08T16:58:13.316Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"well, you would be in your right somewhat","date":"2013-11-08T16:58:39.008Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"but that was an instability issue in the stable branch","date":"2013-11-08T16:58:55.345Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"if it had been my patch instead of yours, i'd have reverted it just the same","date":"2013-11-08T16:59:09.827Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"come to think of it, there was a patch of mine there","date":"2013-11-08T16:59:26.899Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"*in there","date":"2013-11-08T16:59:40.497Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"so, back on topic: UV_FS_EVENT_RECURSIVE. convince me why it should stay","date":"2013-11-08T17:00:27.841Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"i don't mind it terribly, actually, but if it's half-broken, then it will trip up people eventually","date":"2013-11-08T17:00:59.016Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"hah","date":"2013-11-08T17:01:07.384Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"well, RECURSIVE itself is not broken","date":"2013-11-08T17:01:15.516Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"and neither is FSEvents","date":"2013-11-08T17:01:20.723Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"its broken in only one way","date":"2013-11-08T17:01:25.874Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"which is?","date":"2013-11-08T17:01:31.190Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"there's system wide limit of the number of FSEventStreams","date":"2013-11-08T17:01:44.720Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"as it apparently is on linux for inotify","date":"2013-11-08T17:01:52.881Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"but","date":"2013-11-08T17:01:55.816Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"its not configurable","date":"2013-11-08T17:01:58.236Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"so its possible to cause failure on both platforms","date":"2013-11-08T17:02:08.057Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"yeah. every platform probably has some kind of limit","date":"2013-11-08T17:02:08.274Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"and recursiveness has nothing to do with it","date":"2013-11-08T17:02:16.504Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"even more","date":"2013-11-08T17:02:18.056Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"FSEvents is recursive *by default*","date":"2013-11-08T17:02:26.077Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"and disabling it will introduce nothing but CPU waste","date":"2013-11-08T17:02:35.943Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"okay","date":"2013-11-08T17:02:42.696Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"to check if event came from subfolder","date":"2013-11-08T17:02:45.857Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"and ignore it","date":"2013-11-08T17:02:54.200Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"so the _only_ issue is when you hit the number-of-streams limit?","date":"2013-11-08T17:03:53.405Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"yes","date":"2013-11-08T17:04:22.659Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"and sometimes order of events","date":"2013-11-08T17:04:28.298Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"I mean","date":"2013-11-08T17:04:35.991Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"go on :)","date":"2013-11-08T17:04:40.482Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"old events could be emitted","date":"2013-11-08T17:04:44.080Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"bnoordhuis: that was your example","date":"2013-11-08T17:04:49.000Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"with fs.writeFileSync","date":"2013-11-08T17:04:53.579Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"oh, right","date":"2013-11-08T17:04:54.512Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"that's all I aware of","date":"2013-11-08T17:04:57.139Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"yeah, that's annoying. i'd like to see that fixed somehow","date":"2013-11-08T17:05:07.808Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"it's at odds with the other platforms","date":"2013-11-08T17:05:12.602Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"that's my only peeve with UV_FS_EVENT_RECURSIVE, really","date":"2013-11-08T17:05:26.789Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"it cannot be realistically implemented on other platforms","date":"2013-11-08T17:05:36.432Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"well","date":"2013-11-08T17:05:36.653Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"haha","date":"2013-11-08T17:05:53.881Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"well","date":"2013-11-08T17:05:59.502Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"inotify may eventually adopt it","date":"2013-11-08T17:06:03.238Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"who knows","date":"2013-11-08T17:06:03.452Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"MI6","message":"\u0002nodejs-master\u0002: #685 \u00037UNSTABLE\u000f osx-x64 (1/676) smartos-ia32 (8/676) linux-x64 (1/676) smartos-x64 (7/676) linux-ia32 (1/676) http://jenkins.nodejs.org/job/nodejs-master/685/","date":"2013-11-08T17:06:05.575Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"highly unlikely","date":"2013-11-08T17:06:15.786Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"bnoordhuis: its just a shame to artificially limit functionality of FSEvents","date":"2013-11-08T17:06:29.478Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"the way the dirent cache is structured on linux makes that unlikely","date":"2013-11-08T17:06:40.872Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"bnoordhuis: especially, when there're people who need it","date":"2013-11-08T17:06:42.157Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"but that aside","date":"2013-11-08T17:06:43.952Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"right. so the issue with that is that people are going to write mac-only software","date":"2013-11-08T17:07:04.438Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"that's definitely something node intends to discourage","date":"2013-11-08T17:07:24.102Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"bnoordhuis: oh god, they're doing it anyway :)","date":"2013-11-08T17:07:38.699Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"and that's ok if they could use more of APis","date":"2013-11-08T17:07:57.960Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"look at cloudup","date":"2013-11-08T17:08:00.900Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"they're using node to create standalone application","date":"2013-11-08T17:08:16.217Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"usually such things are written for every platform anyway","date":"2013-11-08T17:08:48.082Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"what do you mean?","date":"2013-11-08T17:09:12.190Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"desktop apps?","date":"2013-11-08T17:09:30.183Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"i think the 'anyway' in that last sentence kind of put me on the wrong foot","date":"2013-11-08T17:10:17.428Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"whatever","date":"2013-11-08T17:10:18.183Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"haha","date":"2013-11-08T17:10:29.014Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"try thinking of it in a following way","date":"2013-11-08T17:10:50.875Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"does sunos support watching directories?","date":"2013-11-08T17:11:02.010Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"not that i know of","date":"2013-11-08T17:11:22.614Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"indeed","date":"2013-11-08T17:11:28.316Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"is that a reason to remove this support from linux and osx?","date":"2013-11-08T17:11:37.049Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"indutny","message":"I thought our main strategy was to make APIs that are working the same way on all platforms","date":"2013-11-08T17:12:36.421Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"hiding all differencies","date":"2013-11-08T17:12:41.817Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"except","date":"2013-11-08T17:12:47.175Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"things that are not supported on some of them","date":"2013-11-08T17:12:51.706Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"i guess so","date":"2013-11-08T17:13:05.738Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"again, i don't mind that recursive flag so much","date":"2013-11-08T17:13:14.066Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"having RECURSIVE option isn't creating any differencies","date":"2013-11-08T17:13:15.180Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"its just an API that works here and doesn't works there","date":"2013-11-08T17:13:22.778Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"bnoordhuis: what's the problem then? :)","date":"2013-11-08T17:13:33.882Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"unless it was really broken. but if you say it isn't, i'll take your word for it","date":"2013-11-08T17:13:35.300Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"ok","date":"2013-11-08T17:13:59.834Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"agreed","date":"2013-11-08T17:14:01.679Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"bnoordhuis","action":"hugs indutny","date":"2013-11-08T17:22:36.173Z","type":"action"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"haha","date":"2013-11-08T17:22:45.208Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"he's like the kid brother i never had","date":"2013-11-08T17:22:46.410Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","action":"hugs bnoordhuis ","date":"2013-11-08T17:22:54.378Z","type":"action"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"hah :)","date":"2013-11-08T17:22:58.334Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"oh god","date":"2013-11-08T17:23:17.701Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"that's too much :)","date":"2013-11-08T17:23:25.286Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"indutny","message":"but I appreciate it :P","date":"2013-11-08T17:23:38.916Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"bnoordhuis","action":"is off to dinner","date":"2013-11-08T17:42:02.557Z","type":"action"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"see ya","date":"2013-11-08T17:44:28.104Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"isaacs: can you do an npm upgrade please and thank you","date":"2013-11-08T18:47:17.026Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"robonerd","message":"what does liberal utopian void mean?","date":"2013-11-08T19:20:17.019Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"hueniverse","message":"isaacs: I think you missed the past of my semver issue about it being a joke :-)","date":"2013-11-08T19:55:01.819Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"hueniverse","message":"part","date":"2013-11-08T19:55:05.815Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"hueniverse","message":"trevnorris: any new discoveries?","date":"2013-11-08T20:05:59.209Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"he always has discoveries","date":"2013-11-08T20:07:14.240Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"robonerd","message":"what does liberal utopian void mean?","date":"2013-11-08T20:17:43.603Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"robonerd: ibuv?","date":"2013-11-08T20:18:21.261Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"isaacs: yt?","date":"2013-11-08T20:18:29.796Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"so I kinda want to make libuv.js which would be v8 bindings on top of libuv","date":"2013-11-08T20:29:55.249Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"without all the other node lib stuff","date":"2013-11-08T20:30:02.488Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"just exposing libuv to js land","date":"2013-11-08T20:30:13.233Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"is someone doing this already?","date":"2013-11-08T20:30:18.048Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"indutny","message":"defunctzombie: at least not that I aware of","date":"2013-11-08T20:30:58.926Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"methinks it would be cool","date":"2013-11-08T20:31:18.748Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"sblom","message":"tjfontaine: I'm trying to repro the libuv test hangs, and am probably doing something wrong. Do we know if this happens anywhere other than the build server?","date":"2013-11-08T20:31:52.486Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"sblom","message":"I'm using 32-bit libuv, running the 2 tests that you mentioned.","date":"2013-11-08T20:32:43.552Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"sblom","message":"I did notice one thing, when I ran this.","date":"2013-11-08T20:32:56.414Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"sblom","message":"I got a UAC prompt to unfirewall this once. Is it possible that the build server test runner is getting hung on that?","date":"2013-11-08T20:33:26.185Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"sblom","message":"I clicked \"sure--unfirewall this\"","date":"2013-11-08T20:33:42.079Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"sblom","message":"Lemme re-firewall it and see if those two tests happen to cause prompts.","date":"2013-11-08T20:34:02.992Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"sblom","message":"But that shouldn't be a _new_ failure...","date":"2013-11-08T20:34:11.704Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"indutny","message":"isaacs: ping pong","date":"2013-11-08T20:52:46.037Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"isaacs: Please reach me out once you'll have a minute","date":"2013-11-08T20:52:54.988Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"MI6","message":"\u0002joyent/node:\u0002 \u00033Ben Noordhuis\u000f \u00037master\u000f * \u0002146b2e2\u0002 : build: make v8 use random seed for hash tables (+1 more commits) - http://git.io/qRZljg","date":"2013-11-08T21:27:15.954Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"isaacs","message":"indutny: pong","date":"2013-11-08T21:37:18.918Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"indutny: pong ping","date":"2013-11-08T21:37:22.598Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"hueniverse: Oh, I figured it was a joke. I just like playing your straightman","date":"2013-11-08T21:37:47.197Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"MI6","message":"\u0002joyent/node:\u0002 \u00033isaacs\u000f \u00037v0.10\u000f * \u00028f221bc\u0002 : npm: Upgrade to 1.3.14 - http://git.io/HaJexg","date":"2013-11-08T21:41:36.253Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"hueniverse","message":"isaacs: :-)","date":"2013-11-08T21:41:47.455Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"MI6","message":"\u0002joyent/node:\u0002 \u00033isaacs\u000f \u00037master\u000f * \u0002a48b647\u0002 : Merge remote-tracking branch 'ry/v0.10' (+6 more commits) - http://git.io/7WfMJw","date":"2013-11-08T21:42:03.268Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"isaacs: heya","date":"2013-11-08T21:42:23.669Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"isaacs: you still there?","date":"2013-11-08T21:42:32.016Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"isaacs: wanna discuss https://github.com/joyent/node/pull/6482","date":"2013-11-08T21:42:49.065Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"indutny: yeah, i'm here","date":"2013-11-08T21:42:57.024Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"indutny: yeah, i don't get why you have to expose maybeReadMore","date":"2013-11-08T21:43:17.234Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"indutny: why isn't read(0) going to just trigger that?","date":"2013-11-08T21:43:24.454Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"isaacs: I didn't get that deep yet","date":"2013-11-08T21:43:37.577Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"but it doesn't work","date":"2013-11-08T21:43:40.936Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"hmm.","date":"2013-11-08T21:43:47.913Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"ok","date":"2013-11-08T21:43:48.804Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"I think","date":"2013-11-08T21:43:51.144Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"indutny","message":"its related to 'data' event listener","date":"2013-11-08T21:43:56.433Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"also","date":"2013-11-08T21:44:04.277Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"is .read(0) supposed to work properly from ._read() ?","date":"2013-11-08T21:44:12.019Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"indutny: yeah, it should be fine","date":"2013-11-08T21:44:26.412Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"ok, let me try it","date":"2013-11-08T21:44:32.063Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"just to make sure","date":"2013-11-08T21:44:34.239Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"indutny: is this in 0.10 or 0.11?","date":"2013-11-08T21:44:37.252Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"master","date":"2013-11-08T21:44:40.651Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"0.11","date":"2013-11-08T21:44:41.555Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"I think the main problem here","date":"2013-11-08T21:44:46.470Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"rje","message":"hi all, i'm seeing an abort in libuv under luvit, bnoordhuis mentioned this was fixed in v0.10 but we're still seeing it here: https://gist.github.com/rjemanuele/3c11b9ca18ffac933342","date":"2013-11-08T21:44:47.554Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"is that maybeReadMore isn't called","date":"2013-11-08T21:44:54.894Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"and whole thing gets stuck","date":"2013-11-08T21:44:59.617Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"because noone calls ._read()","date":"2013-11-08T21:45:03.860Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":".push('') won't call it","date":"2013-11-08T21:45:12.022Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"ah, wait","date":"2013-11-08T21:45:48.673Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"its 0.10","date":"2013-11-08T21:45:49.954Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"indutny","message":"isaacs: ^","date":"2013-11-08T21:45:55.813Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"hueniverse: nothing yet.","date":"2013-11-08T21:45:56.355Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"sorry","date":"2013-11-08T21:45:56.731Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"indutny: oh, ok","date":"2013-11-08T21:46:06.262Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"indutny: that explains why the merge collides :)","date":"2013-11-08T21:46:12.773Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"lemme check on v0.10","date":"2013-11-08T21:46:15.391Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"sure","date":"2013-11-08T21:46:39.768Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"thanks","date":"2013-11-08T21:46:40.412Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"hueniverse","message":"trevnorris: welcome to my node theme of 'nothing yet'","date":"2013-11-08T21:47:39.332Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"heh","date":"2013-11-08T21:47:46.034Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"tjfontaine: have that information about where in v8 those calls are being made?","date":"2013-11-08T21:48:09.987Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"tjfontaine: i want to make sure I'm actually hitting that ic miss w/ my code.","date":"2013-11-08T21:49:04.593Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"indutny","message":"isaacs: seems to be working :D","date":"2013-11-08T21:50:48.962Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"isaacs: haha","date":"2013-11-08T21:51:18.458Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"indutny: wait, what seems to be working?","date":"2013-11-08T21:51:25.178Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":".read(0)","date":"2013-11-08T21:51:29.553Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"oh! ok.","date":"2013-11-08T21:51:32.848Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"isaacs","message":"yeah, that's a better approach.","date":"2013-11-08T21:51:36.949Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"and read(0) is basically always allowed","date":"2013-11-08T21:51:42.198Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"MI6","message":"\u0002nodejs-master\u0002: #686 \u00037UNSTABLE\u000f osx-x64 (1/676) smartos-ia32 (11/676) linux-x64 (1/676) smartos-x64 (11/676) http://jenkins.nodejs.org/job/nodejs-master/686/","date":"2013-11-08T21:51:48.508Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"all it'll ever do is maybe fill up to the HWM unnecessarily","date":"2013-11-08T21:51:51.178Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"isaacs: great","date":"2013-11-08T21:52:18.220Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"isaacs: mind reviewing updated PR then?","date":"2013-11-08T21:52:23.212Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"kk","date":"2013-11-08T21:52:27.221Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"https://github.com/joyent/node/pull/6482","date":"2013-11-08T21:52:35.924Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"isaacs","message":"indutny: it's better if you add a `console.log('ok')` after the assert on 'exit'","date":"2013-11-08T21:52:42.493Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"I'll change commit message to something adequate","date":"2013-11-08T21:52:42.711Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"indutny: it's nice to know that node didnt' crash","date":"2013-11-08T21:52:47.817Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"or some ohter weirdo thing","date":"2013-11-08T21:52:51.128Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"ok, sure","date":"2013-11-08T21:52:53.684Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"other than that, yeah, lgtm","date":"2013-11-08T21:52:58.578Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"great","date":"2013-11-08T21:53:16.651Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"what do you think about following commit message","date":"2013-11-08T21:53:23.694Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"tls: prevent stalls by using read(0)","date":"2013-11-08T21:53:36.356Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"Do not `.push()` the same data as just passed to `.ondata()`, it may be read by 'data' event listeners.","date":"2013-11-08T21:54:07.670Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"isaacs: lgty?","date":"2013-11-08T21:54:14.229Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"indutny: yeah, sounds good to me","date":"2013-11-08T21:54:17.540Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"thanks","date":"2013-11-08T21:54:20.494Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"indutny: and squash, of course :)","date":"2013-11-08T21:54:28.646Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"sure","date":"2013-11-08T21:54:53.044Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"I'll just run tests","date":"2013-11-08T21:54:57.590Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"and push it","date":"2013-11-08T21:54:59.140Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"brb","date":"2013-11-08T21:55:14.078Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"hueniverse: don't want to over sell what's going on, but I'm generating linear memory growth.","date":"2013-11-08T21:56:14.650Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"hueniverse: it's still slow so i'm going to see if it'll run until the process dies.","date":"2013-11-08T21:56:27.040Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"hueniverse","message":"trevnorris: oh, that's so going on twitter","date":"2013-11-08T21:59:18.516Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"heh","date":"2013-11-08T21:59:29.682Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"awesome. and I have it down to just a js file. no native module required. but still need tjfontaine's analysis to see if it's the same problem.","date":"2013-11-08T22:00:03.962Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"hueniverse","message":"nice","date":"2013-11-08T22:00:47.668Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"trevnorris: what's the one weird trick?","date":"2013-11-08T22:04:15.321Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"isaacs: which? sorry, i'm lost on context.","date":"2013-11-08T22:05:08.161Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"trevnorris: to generate linear growth in js","date":"2013-11-08T22:05:33.686Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"isaacs: oh, let me gist my current script. sec.","date":"2013-11-08T22:05:54.409Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"MI6","message":"\u0002joyent/node:\u0002 \u00033Fedor Indutny\u000f \u00037v0.10\u000f * \u0002158c7e6\u0002 : tls: prevent stalls by using read(0) - http://git.io/q_G70A","date":"2013-11-08T22:06:12.914Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"isaacs: https://gist.github.com/trevnorris/7378438","date":"2013-11-08T22:06:33.858Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"hrm","date":"2013-11-08T22:06:52.782Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"wrong issue number in commit log","date":"2013-11-08T22:06:58.069Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"isaacs: force push?","date":"2013-11-08T22:07:01.084Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"indutny: nah, just comment on github","date":"2013-11-08T22:07:44.978Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"MI6","message":"\u0002joyent/node:\u0002 \u00033Fedor Indutny\u000f \u00037v0.10\u000f * \u0002ac2263b\u0002 : tls: prevent stalls by using read(0) - http://git.io/TZA_2g","date":"2013-11-08T22:07:46.968Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"oh, or that.","date":"2013-11-08T22:07:50.568Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"sorry","date":"2013-11-08T22:07:52.247Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"MI6","message":"\u0002nodejs-v0.10\u0002: #1584 \u00037UNSTABLE\u000f smartos-x64 (10/603) smartos-ia32 (9/603) osx-x64 (1/603) http://jenkins.nodejs.org/job/nodejs-v0.10/1584/","date":"2013-11-08T22:07:56.982Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"whoa","date":"2013-11-08T22:08:38.441Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"ttyl guys","date":"2013-11-08T22:08:40.350Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"going to sleep now","date":"2013-11-08T22:08:42.504Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"indutny: thanks :)","date":"2013-11-08T22:08:49.638Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"night indutny ","date":"2013-11-08T22:08:51.003Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"tjfontaine: here: https://gist.github.com/trevnorris/7378438","date":"2013-11-08T22:08:57.432Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"isaacs: no, thank you","date":"2013-11-08T22:08:58.911Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":"isaacs: btw, have you seen http://blog.indutny.com/ ?","date":"2013-11-08T22:09:07.759Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indutny","message":";)","date":"2013-11-08T22:09:10.174Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"tjfontaine: want your analysis on whether that's exposing the same bug. it's causing memory growth, but waiting to see if it'll cause the process to crash.","date":"2013-11-08T22:09:39.357Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"ok, i'm gonna head over to SF. bbiab","date":"2013-11-08T22:14:54.414Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"hm. wonder if it has to do w/ out setImmediate implementation. have the test script doing practically nothing at this point.","date":"2013-11-08T22:22:22.996Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"trevnorris: setImmediate? there's an issue with timers calling Timer.now() which in turn creates a heap-allocated double","date":"2013-11-08T22:26:02.290Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"bnoordhuis: run this script and watch mem: https://gist.github.com/trevnorris/7378438","date":"2013-11-08T22:26:20.076Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"trevnorris: right. am i right that --trace_gc goes completely bonkers?","date":"2013-11-08T22:26:48.195Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"bnoordhuis: yeah. a bunch of [allocation failure]","date":"2013-11-08T22:27:22.639Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"trevnorris: https://github.com/joyent/node/issues/5796","date":"2013-11-08T22:27:41.180Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"bnoordhuis: but why would that cause memory to grow?","date":"2013-11-08T22:28:32.764Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"trevnorris: gc continuously grows the heap","date":"2013-11-08T22:29:08.251Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"you know how lazy v8's gc is. it's like, really lazy, man","date":"2013-11-08T22:29:38.226Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"ok. i'm going to let the script continue to run. it's up to 512MB now. want to see if it'll allow the script to die.","date":"2013-11-08T22:29:56.585Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"bnoordhuis: also, setImmediate() doesn't make a call to Timer.now() that I can find.","date":"2013-11-08T22:30:49.731Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"oh? then it must be something else :)","date":"2013-11-08T22:31:07.651Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"bnoordhuis: recursive setImmediate script is now at 1.7GB","date":"2013-11-08T22:45:09.037Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"bnoordhuis: 2GB. heap usage is flat. rss is continually growing.","date":"2013-11-08T22:47:45.857Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"hueniverse: didn't you say the process would eventually die? if so, we might be running into two different issues that exhibit the same symptoms.","date":"2013-11-08T22:52:30.483Z","type":"message"}
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