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{"nick":"rvagg","message":"ogd: nice nodejsreactions; probably better on there than in learnyounode anyway!","date":"2014-01-22T00:55:16.880Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"AvianPhone","message":"HEY IT'S SNOWING I'M GONNA BUILD A NODE SNOWMAN TOMORROW","date":"2014-01-22T01:13:27.590Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"LOUDBOT","message":"PORK LOBBY UP IN YOUR BUTCHER'S STEALING YOUR OTHER WHITE MEAT","date":"2014-01-22T01:13:28.050Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"othiym23","message":"whoah","date":"2014-01-22T01:15:59.897Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"AvianPhone","message":"DAMN RIGHT IT'S SCARY","date":"2014-01-22T01:18:53.301Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"LOUDBOT","message":"KIDS THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH A COMPUTER SCIENCE DEGREE","date":"2014-01-22T01:18:53.762Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"ogd","message":"bash question: i have a string in node that i want to store as a file on a remote machine, so i've been doing:","date":"2014-01-22T04:12:50.823Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ogd","message":"exec(\"echo 'my string' | ssh admin@server.com 'sudo cat - > /path/to/file'\")","date":"2014-01-22T04:12:53.803Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ogd","message":"but i get bash: /etc/nginx/conf.d/taco.conf: Permission denied","date":"2014-01-22T04:13:03.818Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ogd","message":"(where /etc/nginx/conf.d/taco.conf is /path/to/file)","date":"2014-01-22T04:13:20.513Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ogd","message":"groundwater: o/","date":"2014-01-22T04:13:23.259Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"ogd","message":"am i using sudo incorrectly?","date":"2014-01-22T04:13:42.024Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ogd","message":"ahhh replacing 'sudo cat - > /path/to/file' with 'sudo tee -a /path/to/file' does the trick","date":"2014-01-22T04:16:47.393Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"jjjohnny","message":"does web workers work well?","date":"2014-01-22T04:34:47.091Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"Is it just me or is everything in rails dumped into the same global namespace?","date":"2014-01-22T04:34:48.224Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jjjohnny","message":"or","date":"2014-01-22T04:34:48.350Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"jjjohnny: no idea","date":"2014-01-22T04:34:52.817Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"hahaha :D","date":"2014-01-22T04:34:55.907Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jjjohnny","message":"why do i care about using typedarrays so much","date":"2014-01-22T04:35:02.230Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"timoxley","message":"jesusabdullah: yep. seems insane to me","date":"2014-01-22T04:35:25.728Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"timoxley: It's driving me up the wall","date":"2014-01-22T04:35:38.656Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"timoxley","message":"they have major problems with dependencies","date":"2014-01-22T04:35:45.637Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"timoxley: I'm like, \"where the fuck did THAT come from??\"","date":"2014-01-22T04:35:48.083Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"timoxley","message":"since you can't load the same thing more than once","date":"2014-01-22T04:35:56.841Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"timoxley","message":"jesusabdullah: plus rails does heaps of monkeypatching","date":"2014-01-22T04:36:17.442Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jjjohnny","message":"cuz if i gotta serialized typed arrays to regular objects, in exchange for a thread, what","date":"2014-01-22T04:36:21.908Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"timoxley: examples?","date":"2014-01-22T04:36:28.449Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"timoxley","message":"jesusabdullah: active_support","date":"2014-01-22T04:36:34.816Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"timoxley: the tutorial be all like, \"its a dsl lol dont worry about what the things do\"","date":"2014-01-22T04:36:43.764Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"timoxley","message":"adds magic to all the primitives","date":"2014-01-22T04:36:44.672Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"Wait like, for activerecord n' shit?","date":"2014-01-22T04:36:57.459Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"timoxley","message":"http://guides.rubyonrails.org/active_support_core_extensions.html","date":"2014-01-22T04:37:06.594Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"timoxley","message":"ugh that site is verbose","date":"2014-01-22T04:37:25.223Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"I was just reading a rake task and I'm pretty sure your models are in the same namespace","date":"2014-01-22T04:37:27.971Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"holy shit","date":"2014-01-22T04:37:49.352Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"that's CRAZY","date":"2014-01-22T04:37:55.111Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"timoxley","message":"jesusabdullah: e.g. http://api.rubyonrails.org/classes/ActiveSupport/TimeZone.html","date":"2014-01-22T04:38:03.597Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"timoxley","message":"gives you Time.zone","date":"2014-01-22T04:38:17.063Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"timoxley","message":"everywhere.","date":"2014-01-22T04:38:22.201Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"what the fuck","date":"2014-01-22T04:38:30.052Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"timoxley","message":"what the fuck","date":"2014-01-22T04:38:36.765Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"Why did this seem like a good idea","date":"2014-01-22T04:38:39.022Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"Like","date":"2014-01-22T04:38:40.949Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"So many of the other ideas in rails are at least sane","date":"2014-01-22T04:38:48.695Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"some are even good","date":"2014-01-22T04:38:52.469Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"but, like.... wow","date":"2014-01-22T04:38:56.645Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"Like, the namespace thing, that could be like, \"oh, ruby just sucks at dependencies\"","date":"2014-01-22T04:39:12.648Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"The code generator's a mixed bag","date":"2014-01-22T04:39:25.228Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"the asset pipeline's kinda scary but still useful and easy enough to rip out","date":"2014-01-22T04:39:45.634Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"but, like","date":"2014-01-22T04:39:47.461Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ogd","message":"dangit bash and linux are hard","date":"2014-01-22T04:40:12.670Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"ogd help a rails design decision has made me go bonkers","date":"2014-01-22T04:41:39.624Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"*ugh* I might still go through with building something with it","date":"2014-01-22T04:47:27.689Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"even if it butchers your environment","date":"2014-01-22T04:47:39.160Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"grncdr","message":"ogd: what up with linux & bash?","date":"2014-01-22T05:04:06.707Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"grncdr","message":"also jesusabdullah… just read the scrollback…","date":"2014-01-22T05:04:18.676Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"grncdr","message":":(","date":"2014-01-22T05:04:23.616Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"grncdr","message":"rails is super infuriating that way","date":"2014-01-22T05:04:39.125Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"grncdr","message":"btw, you *can* put your shit in a namespace, but nobody does","date":"2014-01-22T05:05:12.055Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"grncdr","message":"s/namespace/module/","date":"2014-01-22T05:06:58.229Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"kumavis","message":"ogd i would have echo'd the string to a tmp file and then used scp to dump it on the other machine","date":"2014-01-22T05:18:11.467Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ogd","message":"kumavis: problem there was that scp didnt have permissions since it is a non-root user but i have passwordless sudo turned on","date":"2014-01-22T05:21:10.367Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"kumavis","message":"ogd so what did you do, change user permissions?","date":"2014-01-22T05:22:29.636Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ogd","message":"kumavis: nope i just ran tee with sudo which worked","date":"2014-01-22T05:22:47.040Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kumavis","message":"i had not encountered tee before, learned somn new","date":"2014-01-22T05:24:04.172Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"othiym23","message":"Domenic_: are you still awake?","date":"2014-01-22T05:39:40.813Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Domenic_","message":"othiym23: yeah definitely, working on my comparison doc","date":"2014-01-22T05:39:52.227Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"othiym23","message":"how'd the discussion go? have you done that yet?","date":"2014-01-22T05:40:06.278Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Domenic_","message":"othiym23: nope, it's happening tomorrow. i might be able to snag you an invite if you want... we already got isaacs on it, but you have cred as an implementer now :)","date":"2014-01-22T05:40:34.876Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"othiym23","message":"I'm reading the description of BaseWritableStream.close, and in step 2 ('waiting'), it doesn't specify a return value","date":"2014-01-22T05:40:56.791Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"othiym23","message":"is that intentional or an oversight?","date":"2014-01-22T05:41:03.712Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"othiym23","message":"for BaseWritableStream.write, it returns the promise","date":"2014-01-22T05:41:14.290Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"othiym23","message":"Domenic_: if you want another person with experience with your proposal, I'm happy to join, but I don't want to just be there for whatever because too many cooks etc","date":"2014-01-22T05:41:43.314Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Domenic_","message":"hmm hmm.","date":"2014-01-22T05:41:53.615Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Domenic_","message":"Probably not necessary, just wanted to givey ou the invite since you earned it.","date":"2014-01-22T05:42:10.562Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Domenic_","message":"Looks like an omission...","date":"2014-01-22T05:42:13.518Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Domenic_","message":"Yeah it should just return `promise`","date":"2014-01-22T05:42:34.794Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"othiym23","message":"k thanks","date":"2014-01-22T05:43:29.885Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"othiym23","message":"should I file a bug, or are you on it?","date":"2014-01-22T05:43:34.679Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Domenic_","message":"Fixed :). Errr wait fixed in a branch, hold on.","date":"2014-01-22T05:43:52.907Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"Domenic_","message":"othiym23: Raynos: comparison at https://gist.github.com/domenic/c5995bc29f97c05107ee","date":"2014-01-22T05:54:42.725Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"othiym23","message":"Domenic_: some of this promise stuff gets pretty hinky because the ES6 Promise API doesn't support post hoc extraction of the resolver and rejecter","date":"2014-01-22T05:57:23.951Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"othiym23","message":"Domenic_: and I don't have WeakMaps in ES5 to stash them in while I wait to see if I'm going to need them later","date":"2014-01-22T05:57:47.746Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Domenic_","message":"othiym23: yeah, that's fair. we're using them kinda ... innovatively.","date":"2014-01-22T05:57:52.042Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"othiym23","message":"so where do you think I should put them that's relatively hygienic?","date":"2014-01-22T05:58:12.952Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Domenic_","message":"Well, lack of WeakMaps generally means you're screwed for stashing things, whether they be promise resolvers or private properties","date":"2014-01-22T05:58:16.415Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"othiym23","message":"I could stash them in the {type, promise, data} object","date":"2014-01-22T05:58:33.002Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Domenic_","message":"I think your existing approach was pretty good. Just treating them like other private properties.","date":"2014-01-22T05:58:36.382Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Domenic_","message":"oh i ee","date":"2014-01-22T05:58:41.908Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"othiym23","message":"yeah, but this is per-chunk","date":"2014-01-22T05:58:44.948Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Domenic_","message":"yeah per chunk is harder","date":"2014-01-22T05:58:49.561Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Domenic_","message":"probably stash them there, with underscores","date":"2014-01-22T05:58:54.934Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"othiym23","message":"will do for now","date":"2014-01-22T05:59:01.019Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Domenic_","message":"in my mind whenever I see underscores I think \"this really belongs in a weak map\"","date":"2014-01-22T05:59:08.840Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"othiym23","message":"yeah","date":"2014-01-22T05:59:13.556Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"othiym23","message":"I could use Kris & Raynos & mmiller's WeakMap polyfill, I guess","date":"2014-01-22T05:59:28.263Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"othiym23","message":"would you suggest that?","date":"2014-01-22T05:59:43.446Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Domenic_","message":"Meh seems more trouble than it's worth","date":"2014-01-22T05:59:58.625Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Domenic_","message":"I used WeakMaps in the promsies reference implementation","date":"2014-01-22T06:00:05.186Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Domenic_","message":"and ever since I've been complaining about how unusable that thing is","date":"2014-01-22T06:00:11.796Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Domenic_","message":"(the reference implementation, not the WeakMaps)","date":"2014-01-22T06:00:27.519Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Domenic_","message":"keeping it simple with underscores seems fine","date":"2014-01-22T06:00:36.803Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"othiym23","message":"OK","date":"2014-01-22T06:00:55.170Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Domenic_","message":"in pure ES6 we can use PromiseResolve https://github.com/domenic/promises-unwrapping#promiseresolve--promise-resolution- etc.","date":"2014-01-22T06:01:17.862Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"othiym23","message":"(trying to not \"cheat\" and see how Raynos did it, because I do like the idea of two separate implementations)","date":"2014-01-22T06:01:18.580Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Domenic_","message":"haha :)","date":"2014-01-22T06:01:25.305Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"othiym23","message":"Domenic_: would those abstract operations be exposed somewhere in userland (sorry if I read the docs too quickly and overlooked that)","date":"2014-01-22T06:03:33.284Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Raynos","message":"othiym23: how i did what ?","date":"2014-01-22T06:03:35.972Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Domenic_","message":"othiym23: nope, not in userland. You can't go around resolving other peoples' promises, that'd be crazysauce!","date":"2014-01-22T06:04:02.695Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"othiym23","message":"except you're doing it all over in this spec... *cough*","date":"2014-01-22T06:04:22.362Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Domenic_","message":"But specs and implementers would get access to them. %%PromiseResolve in V8 speak I think","date":"2014-01-22T06:04:27.406Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Domenic_","message":"yeah","date":"2014-01-22T06:04:30.909Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Domenic_","message":"kind of evil I guess ... but at least I never do it to ones I couldn't have theoretically done the manual way.","date":"2014-01-22T06:05:00.183Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"othiym23","message":"Raynos: solved the problem of passing the reject and resolve operations along with the promise to the doWrite method in BaseWritableStream","date":"2014-01-22T06:05:04.523Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"othiym23","message":"yeah","date":"2014-01-22T06:05:13.048Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Raynos","message":"promise._reject","date":"2014-01-22T06:05:30.198Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Raynos","message":"promise._fulfill","date":"2014-01-22T06:05:32.988Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"othiym23","message":"I'd never seen the need to be able to resolve a promise from the outside before this but now it seems VITALLY IMPORTANT","date":"2014-01-22T06:05:36.238Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Raynos","message":">_______>;","date":"2014-01-22T06:05:38.405Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"othiym23","message":"yeah well I'm doing something just as halfassed, so don't worry, Raynos","date":"2014-01-22T06:05:58.658Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"othiym23","message":"we're all in this together ( o_o)-b","date":"2014-01-22T06:06:07.212Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"Raynos","message":":D","date":"2014-01-22T06:07:20.532Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"othiym23","message":"Function.prototype.bind, why must you be so expensive?","date":"2014-01-22T06:14:57.938Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Domenic_","message":"ok folks i think i should head to sleep and try for another day of waking up less sick than before.","date":"2014-01-22T06:15:17.877Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Domenic_","message":"thanks for all the effort. excited to keep pushing on this stuff.","date":"2014-01-22T06:15:27.848Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"othiym23","message":"this is fun!","date":"2014-01-22T06:15:53.987Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"othiym23","message":"I like this spec","date":"2014-01-22T06:15:59.962Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"othiym23","message":"implementing it is pretty smooth sailing","date":"2014-01-22T06:16:06.980Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Domenic_","message":":D","date":"2014-01-22T06:16:14.294Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"othiym23","message":"hope tomorrow's meeting is productive and you feel healthier, Domenic_","date":"2014-01-22T06:16:21.894Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Domenic_","message":"that's cuz I think like a JS programmer","date":"2014-01-22T06:16:25.524Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Domenic_","message":"thanks man, i hope so too!","date":"2014-01-22T06:16:30.963Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"Domenic_","message":"progress on official-lookin branch:","date":"2014-01-22T06:17:44.209Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Domenic_","message":"http://anolis.hoppipolla.co.uk/aquarium.py/output?uri=http%3A%2F%2Frawgithub.com%2Fwhatwg%2Fstreams%2Fofficial-lookin%2Findex.html&process_filter=on&process_toc=on&process_xref=on&process_sub=on&process_annotate=on&filter=&annotation=&newline_char=LF&tab_char=SPACE&min_depth=2&max_depth=6&w3c_compat_xref_a_placement=on&parser=lxml.html&serializer=html5lib&ou","date":"2014-01-22T06:17:44.334Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"jesusabdullah, simple solution to freight problem.","date":"2014-01-22T08:31:01.692Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"just throw away everything.","date":"2014-01-22T08:31:15.640Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"HEY LOUDBOT, YOU WANT A BADGE TO GO WITH THAT ATTITUDE http://m.vice.com/read/unpaid-interns-with-guns","date":"2014-01-22T08:43:27.156Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"so, according to my recent research, you could encrypt a file just by multiplying it with a large unique prime","date":"2014-01-22T09:16:19.105Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"must be unique, because if you reuse a key (the prime) in two messages you could easily extract that with greatest common divisor","date":"2014-01-22T09:17:04.964Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"joates","message":"dominictarr: (feedopensource) i can probably find a-bug-a-day or i can stop at any time ;-P","date":"2014-01-22T09:50:56.289Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"joates","message":"dominictarr: related -> https://github.com/dominictarr/feedopensource/issues/31#issuecomment-33006169","date":"2014-01-22T09:51:07.939Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"joates","message":"dominictarr: \"okay relocating\" btw.. very sorry if that was inconvenient yesterday :(","date":"2014-01-22T10:07:45.798Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"joates, no problem!","date":"2014-01-22T10:25:58.969Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"joates, what I really want to see for iteration2 is to try and fund another project with it.","date":"2014-01-22T10:27:20.917Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"joates","message":"dominictarr: hmm, i was under the impression that yr current funders were ok with this project consuming 2-3 iterations (to get it to a kind of release-ready state).","date":"2014-01-22T10:39:28.707Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"joates","message":"dominictarr: although i have a project i want to fund :))","date":"2014-01-22T10:39:50.597Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"joates","message":"dominictarr: .. but thats \"on hold\" for another 20 days.","date":"2014-01-22T10:41:19.474Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"joates, hmm, yes. I've been working on crypto stuff last few days, i'll review the current issues - do you think we have enough things required for the next iteration?","date":"2014-01-22T10:53:26.826Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"joates","message":"dominictarr: i do think we have \"tasks\", moving some tasks into an iteration issue and setting a funding goal would perhaps encourage more community participation.","date":"2014-01-22T11:14:03.376Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"joates","message":"dominictarr: the great thing about this system (i think) it's that its flexible.","date":"2014-01-22T11:15:36.277Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"joates","message":"dominictarr: i mean the next step is not \"cast in stone\", can move tasks in an out, raise or lower funding goal.. until we know what works, i think it just needs to be \"used\" :)","date":"2014-01-22T11:17:38.654Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"yeah. sure, I just like to alternate between projects, will get back to this one shortly.","date":"2014-01-22T11:18:37.252Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"maybe could fund npmd with it though...","date":"2014-01-22T11:19:22.284Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"people are kind into that project...","date":"2014-01-22T11:20:20.729Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mmalecki","message":"sup dominictarr","date":"2014-01-22T11:25:40.165Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"mmalecki, houdy","date":"2014-01-22T12:13:01.697Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"mmalecki","message":"dominictarr: I'm good, how are you?","date":"2014-01-22T12:23:40.233Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mmalecki","message":"dominictarr: I demand pics of the place you're at XD","date":"2014-01-22T12:23:56.268Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mmalecki","message":"dominictarr: because it sounds lovely","date":"2014-01-22T12:24:05.211Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"Raynos","message":"hello :p","date":"2014-01-22T18:30:23.684Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"ugh","date":"2014-01-22T18:35:15.590Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"I think today I'm gonna arrange for a pick-up of my shit","date":"2014-01-22T18:35:29.824Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"(before anyone says, \"u should just throw it away lol,\" I'm dealing with an expensive but un-sellable queen bed)","date":"2014-01-22T18:35:54.566Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"kumavis","message":"jesusabdullah: just little nemo it to your new place","date":"2014-01-22T18:37:52.053Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"little nemo?","date":"2014-01-22T18:38:07.250Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"I was gonna do one of uhaul's \"pods\" since they double as storage units","date":"2014-01-22T18:38:20.209Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"which is perfect since I don't have a drop-off location yet","date":"2014-01-22T18:38:33.048Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"kumavis","message":"little nemo was the one where they flew on a bed through the sky","date":"2014-01-22T18:43:17.548Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"orite","date":"2014-01-22T18:43:44.427Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kumavis","message":"the remake was weird when they were fish underwater instead","date":"2014-01-22T18:43:44.598Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"Yeah I saw the remake so I was confused","date":"2014-01-22T18:43:54.098Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"kumavis","message":"jesusabdullah: where are you moving from/to","date":"2014-01-22T18:45:08.907Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"kumavis: from SLC to NYC \\o/","date":"2014-01-22T18:45:19.516Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"kumavis: new jorb","date":"2014-01-22T18:45:23.145Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kumavis","message":"ah, enjoy","date":"2014-01-22T18:45:36.161Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kumavis","message":"I kinda feel like moving away from my job to a quiet place like SLC myself","date":"2014-01-22T18:46:24.154Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kumavis","message":"Though thats what i was doing before i moved to the city and got a job, so I suppose its a constant flux","date":"2014-01-22T18:47:06.602Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"Where do you live?","date":"2014-01-22T18:47:16.322Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"In my case, I was laid off and the best gig was in NYC","date":"2014-01-22T18:47:34.178Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"pretty jazzed beyond having to move this fucking bed though","date":"2014-01-22T18:49:07.992Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"If I'd known I was getting laid off I wouldn't have bought it","date":"2014-01-22T18:49:17.203Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"and this move would've been WAY easier","date":"2014-01-22T18:49:21.984Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"and cheaper!","date":"2014-01-22T18:49:24.547Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kumavis","message":"sf, though moving to the burbs for a bit","date":"2014-01-22T18:50:03.491Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"aha","date":"2014-01-22T18:50:49.941Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kumavis","message":"moving next door to work so i can walk instead of the 1.5 hr commute","date":"2014-01-22T18:51:00.199Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"creationix","message":"has anyone in here designed a module system around git submodules?","date":"2014-01-22T18:52:43.004Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"I think with suffecient ide support, tedit could make submodules a painless way to depend on external libraries in projects","date":"2014-01-22T18:53:31.182Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"aren't git submodules by definition painful?","date":"2014-01-22T18:57:07.326Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"D:","date":"2014-01-22T18:57:08.237Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"srsly tho, I've not","date":"2014-01-22T18:57:15.141Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"jesusabdullah, the default interface for them is","date":"2014-01-22T18:57:23.631Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"point.","date":"2014-01-22T18:57:44.799Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"and they fail to record key data like the branch you're working on. So submodules are always in a detached head state by default","date":"2014-01-22T18:57:48.740Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"but I can add that pretty easily I think","date":"2014-01-22T18:58:01.115Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mikolalysenko","message":"maybe submodules could work as a kind of extension/replacement of npm link?","date":"2014-01-22T18:58:25.304Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mikolalysenko","message":"though I have to say I kind of like the symlink semantics in the current implementation","date":"2014-01-22T18:58:39.952Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"creationix","message":"well, for my purposes, it would replace \"dependencies\" in package.json","date":"2014-01-22T18:58:54.452Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mikolalysenko","message":"hmm","date":"2014-01-22T18:59:03.813Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"mikolalysenko","message":"I honestly prefer the dependencies/package.json system","date":"2014-01-22T18:59:15.608Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"my workflow is all git-internals based and any changes to a deep dependency needs to change my tree's hash","date":"2014-01-22T18:59:18.649Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"so any symbolic dependency is no good","date":"2014-01-22T18:59:29.556Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mikolalysenko","message":"it is easier to swap out and remove modules than it is to muck about with git submodules","date":"2014-01-22T18:59:31.643Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"foo@~0.1.2 is not the same thing today as it is tomorrow","date":"2014-01-22T18:59:45.182Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mikolalysenko","message":"so you can remove the ~ if you need a precise version","date":"2014-01-22T19:00:02.672Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"well, even that can change","date":"2014-01-22T19:00:09.615Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"and I want ranges for my deps","date":"2014-01-22T19:00:20.544Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mikolalysenko","message":"you can also fork the module and rehost it yourself","date":"2014-01-22T19:00:25.354Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"right, but this isn't for me, it's a new workflow for beginners","date":"2014-01-22T19:00:43.540Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"anything that makes it harder is not an option","date":"2014-01-22T19:00:51.089Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"so one idea I have is to store a semver range along with the submodule remote","date":"2014-01-22T19:01:24.322Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mikolalysenko","message":"I am a bit skeptical submodules will make anything easier, but then again I don't understand submodules as well as I should so perhaps I should stop talking","date":"2014-01-22T19:01:40.552Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"so .gitmodules would contain {path, url, tag} instead of just {path, url}","date":"2014-01-22T19:01:46.107Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"mikolalysenko, as they are used today, they are much harder. I'm trying to change them to make them easier","date":"2014-01-22T19:02:04.787Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"by also recording the tag or branch, my program won't be forced to make them in detached head state","date":"2014-01-22T19:02:42.524Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"also the tag can be a range like ~0.2.x that matches the best tag","date":"2014-01-22T19:02:58.075Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"then when I run the equivalent to `npm update`, it will see the tag in .gitmodules and update the hash to the correct place","date":"2014-01-22T19:03:23.255Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"so it would be the same workflow as npm today","date":"2014-01-22T19:03:36.177Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mikolalysenko","message":"hmm, though npm can already kind of do that","date":"2014-01-22T19:03:45.245Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"except you have the added information of the exact hash the author was using when they tested their library","date":"2014-01-22T19:04:00.479Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mikolalysenko","message":"since it can take git urls and read the package.json directly from repos","date":"2014-01-22T19:04:01.699Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"npm can't do senver ranges on git tags","date":"2014-01-22T19:04:17.549Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"but it could if isaacs wanted to.","date":"2014-01-22T19:04:27.634Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mikolalysenko","message":"it would be a nice feature to add","date":"2014-01-22T19:04:41.808Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"last time I proposed it, he said it was too confusing","date":"2014-01-22T19:05:02.646Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mikolalysenko","message":"I was under the impression that you could already do something kind of like that, but maybe I am confused","date":"2014-01-22T19:05:05.475Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"you can specify a tag, but not a range of tags","date":"2014-01-22T19:05:16.368Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mikolalysenko","message":"well, perhaps you could clean it up a bit","date":"2014-01-22T19:05:17.580Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mikolalysenko","message":"ah, I see","date":"2014-01-22T19:05:21.703Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"ranges only work for packages hosted in npm","date":"2014-01-22T19:05:23.837Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mikolalysenko","message":"hmm","date":"2014-01-22T19:05:31.854Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Raynos","message":"creationix: component / tj added semver stuff for git tags recently","date":"2014-01-22T19:05:51.491Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"Raynos, cool","date":"2014-01-22T19:05:59.342Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mikolalysenko","message":"I bet there is a way to make it work within the existing npm framework cleanly","date":"2014-01-22T19:06:12.074Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Raynos","message":"yes","date":"2014-01-22T19:06:18.750Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Raynos","message":"tj wants to PR into npm","date":"2014-01-22T19:06:22.871Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Raynos","message":"but cant find the area of the code","date":"2014-01-22T19:06:27.072Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Raynos","message":"where it should go","date":"2014-01-22T19:06:28.995Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"anyway, even if npm gets the feature, I can't use it for my platform","date":"2014-01-22T19:07:07.223Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"I need to remain compatable with cgit and github","date":"2014-01-22T19:07:18.498Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"they all store submodule information in .gitmodules","date":"2014-01-22T19:07:24.917Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"though I wonder what would happen if I had submodules in my tree and no .gitmodules file","date":"2014-01-22T19:07:44.344Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"(because my code could just as well get the data from package.json)","date":"2014-01-22T19:07:54.112Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mikolalysenko","message":"also, as an aside: what is there besides emscripten these days for compiling c++ -> js?","date":"2014-01-22T19:10:10.783Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mikolalysenko","message":"and has anyone come up with any real progress on how to make emscripten work modularly?","date":"2014-01-22T19:10:31.208Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kumavis","message":"creationix: I like the idea","date":"2014-01-22T19:11:04.636Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"kumavis, which part?","date":"2014-01-22T19:11:16.767Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kumavis","message":"npm is amazing, but something built with git primitives could have a wider ranging audience.","date":"2014-01-22T19:11:50.480Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kumavis","message":"than the js community","date":"2014-01-22T19:11:59.286Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kumavis","message":"and i agree the current submodules interface is none too friendly","date":"2014-01-22T19:12:57.680Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"kumavis, cool, thanks. I'll see what I can come up with","date":"2014-01-22T19:14:15.078Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kumavis","message":"creationix: what is your main motivation?","date":"2014-01-22T19:14:15.202Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"this is for my dev environment for kids project","date":"2014-01-22T19:14:26.362Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"one of the technical constraints is that all changes to dependencies, however deeply nested, must change the hash of the parent trees","date":"2014-01-22T19:15:01.489Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"git submodules do this because they store the commit of the submodule as a tree entry","date":"2014-01-22T19:15:15.455Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"and then the .gitmodules file at the root tells extra information like what repo it came from","date":"2014-01-22T19:15:33.956Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"I'm proposing to add more metadata like the branch or tag (or tag range) as well as optional backup repo urls in case the first is offline","date":"2014-01-22T19:15:54.189Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"and I need whatever I come up with to be compatable with github since it's such a popular code sharing site and has a good ui","date":"2014-01-22T19:16:34.446Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kumavis","message":"ah, great i was going to request some automation around deep dependency patching","date":"2014-01-22T19:16:39.062Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"they support submodules pretty well","date":"2014-01-22T19:16:41.636Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kumavis","message":"creationix: dev env for kids is an awesome project","date":"2014-01-22T19:17:54.700Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kumavis","message":"you have my axe etc etc","date":"2014-01-22T19:18:00.663Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"and not just for kids, it will make life easier for us too","date":"2014-01-22T19:18:11.317Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"I hate how complex normal web development is","date":"2014-01-22T19:18:20.602Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kumavis","message":"yes","date":"2014-01-22T19:18:26.076Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"I mean, it beats most native development, but still, we can do better","date":"2014-01-22T19:18:44.486Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"heh, mayby my tool will support both npm and git dependencies and both .gitmodules and package.json","date":"2014-01-22T19:20:31.606Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"I don't see any technical reason why it can't. It's just a resource problem","date":"2014-01-22T19:20:48.892Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"Raynos","message":"creationix: https://twitter.com/tjholowaychuk/status/425844269404798976","date":"2014-01-22T19:22:11.875Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ogd","message":"lol @ that thread","date":"2014-01-22T19:22:54.378Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"Raynos, interesting. But even github goes down pretty often","date":"2014-01-22T19:22:59.151Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"component.io WAS written in 2009, it was called kiwi","date":"2014-01-22T19:23:39.431Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"Okay 2010 maybe","date":"2014-01-22T19:23:50.118Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"though I guess if you're already using github for your main app, it's ok to depend on github for your dependencies","date":"2014-01-22T19:23:53.749Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"2010 was the year I worked with TJ at Sencha and we invented Connect","date":"2014-01-22T19:24:11.642Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"still not sure if I should be proud of ashamed of connect","date":"2014-01-22T19:24:24.099Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"lulz","date":"2014-01-22T19:24:29.849Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"I'd be proud but not TOO proud","date":"2014-01-22T19:24:35.951Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"Tons of people use it","date":"2014-01-22T19:24:54.790Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"if anyone has any blame/praise for the (req, res, next) format, that's all my fault/credit","date":"2014-01-22T19:25:07.266Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"Not the greatest thing since sliced bread but, like, especially given the time and node's maturity, not bad","date":"2014-01-22T19:25:29.026Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"though working with TJ was prertty amazing. I would travel the world giving presentations on connect while he stayed home and wrote unit tests, documentation, and fixed bugs","date":"2014-01-22T19:25:57.275Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"he hated presenting and would rather do anything else","date":"2014-01-22T19:26:05.219Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"haha","date":"2014-01-22T19:27:38.452Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"I wonder why","date":"2014-01-22T19:27:40.392Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"I think he's just shy","date":"2014-01-22T19:27:50.028Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"rowbit","message":"Daily usage stats: [developer: 17, free: 165]","date":"2014-01-22T19:27:50.646Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"rowbit","message":"Hourly usage stats: [developer: 2, free: 120]","date":"2014-01-22T19:27:50.999Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"works for me, I don't mind presenting","date":"2014-01-22T19:28:00.716Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"Isn't everybody? XD","date":"2014-01-22T19:28:04.091Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"I was, then I worked as a Mormon missionary for two years in California","date":"2014-01-22T19:28:23.244Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"hahaha","date":"2014-01-22T19:28:34.900Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"Yeah that would do it","date":"2014-01-22T19:28:37.567Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"nothing like going door-to-door trying to get complete strangers to talk about God and the purpose of life","date":"2014-01-22T19:28:39.475Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"A lot of provoans did that...in SPANISH","date":"2014-01-22T19:29:04.499Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"yep, I also learned spanish","date":"2014-01-22T19:29:13.421Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"Most of my old coworkers knew a second language of some kind","date":"2014-01-22T19:29:24.120Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"creationix","message":"I spent most my time in Santa Ana","date":"2014-01-22T19:29:27.476Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"jesusabdullah, that's Provo area for you","date":"2014-01-22T19:29:39.207Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"Yup!","date":"2014-01-22T19:29:42.859Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"personally I couldn't live there. I don't like the mormon culture (not to be confused with the religion which I fully support)","date":"2014-01-22T19:30:13.423Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"Oh? Can you elaborate?","date":"2014-01-22T19:33:24.724Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"I mean, I assumed texas was more your speed considering that you LIVE there","date":"2014-01-22T19:33:41.276Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"but I'm curious to hear your perspective on utah county","date":"2014-01-22T19:33:55.570Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"well I grew up here in Texas where we (mormons) are an extreme minority (something like 0.2%)","date":"2014-01-22T19:34:42.743Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"so those of us who go to church are seen as different by out peers. We have to either live up to the religion or cave in and stop going.","date":"2014-01-22T19:35:13.537Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"in Utah, especially Provo area, it's almost expected that you are a Mormon and it doesn't mean anything special","date":"2014-01-22T19:35:32.017Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"lots of people go to church who don't really beleive it","date":"2014-01-22T19:35:40.987Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"Yeah, the social pressure to toe the line's pretty great","date":"2014-01-22T19:36:00.651Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"to me, you shouldn't attend a church unless you're serious about it","date":"2014-01-22T19:36:02.595Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"that's not to say there aren't some amazing people there. Just that I prefer being the minority for some reason","date":"2014-01-22T19:36:35.300Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"I learned after I got laid off that most of my non-mo coworkers smoke, but only me and one other were comfortable enough with ourselves to take smoke breaks at work","date":"2014-01-22T19:36:37.951Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"But yeah, I feel that","date":"2014-01-22T19:37:08.191Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"Cool to visit salt lake though? :)","date":"2014-01-22T19:37:19.363Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"I do like SLC, the thing though is that, like","date":"2014-01-22T19:37:32.176Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"yeah, I have lots of extended family there. My mom is descended from the pioneers who crossed the plains","date":"2014-01-22T19:37:44.715Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"You get these cliques going on, with devout mormons on one side and pothead ski bums on the other","date":"2014-01-22T19:38:01.073Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"Lack of mixing","date":"2014-01-22T19:38:08.622Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"which is a little unfortunate","date":"2014-01-22T19:38:16.156Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"That's really neat creationix","date":"2014-01-22T19:38:20.118Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"I'm bummed I missed pioneer day","date":"2014-01-22T19:38:29.162Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"my mom's parents live in south Orem","date":"2014-01-22T19:38:32.737Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"we're not from Texas, I just grew up here","date":"2014-01-22T19:39:01.136Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"aha","date":"2014-01-22T19:39:10.159Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"I was born in New Mexico, my Mom in California and my dad in Colerado","date":"2014-01-22T19:39:18.562Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","action":"also can't speel","date":"2014-01-22T19:39:42.360Z","type":"action"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"pioneer day in Texarkana is actually pretty fun. We have good-ol Texas style BBQ and play softball and water sports","date":"2014-01-22T19:40:17.278Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"there are about 200 active mormons in the county who show up","date":"2014-01-22T19:40:26.723Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"Sounds like a good time","date":"2014-01-22T19:41:04.303Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"some people drive as much as 60 miles to come to church. That's dedication. I only drive about 15 miles and go twice a week since I'm in charge of the teenagers","date":"2014-01-22T19:41:13.052Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"Yeah, I knew a family in my hometown that would drive that far","date":"2014-01-22T19:41:35.413Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"the nearest temple is in Dallas, about 3 hour drive","date":"2014-01-22T19:41:36.342Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"we try to go once a month, but it's hard with kids needing babysitting","date":"2014-01-22T19:41:54.928Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"I think AK has more mormons per capita than your neck of the woods XD","date":"2014-01-22T19:42:04.018Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"I'm not sure what the history is, but yeah, it's not all that unusual in alaska to be mormon","date":"2014-01-22T19:42:49.741Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"creationix","message":"dunno, the main concentrations are California, Idaho, Utah, Arizona, etc..","date":"2014-01-22T19:43:34.303Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"Provo being the densest I think","date":"2014-01-22T19:43:47.106Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"Yeah I'd believe that","date":"2014-01-22T19:44:05.159Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"what's fun is trying to fine a church when I travel to Europe","date":"2014-01-22T19:44:21.737Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"or China!","date":"2014-01-22T19:44:27.297Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"oh geez I bet!","date":"2014-01-22T19:44:53.596Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ogd","message":"creationix: have you been to the Oakland temple? I live practically underneath it now","date":"2014-01-22T19:45:06.123Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"ogd, yes, I love that neighborhood","date":"2014-01-22T19:45:18.063Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ogd","message":"i was just up there for their christmas lights display","date":"2014-01-22T19:45:21.291Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ogd","message":"they have quite the view","date":"2014-01-22T19:45:25.868Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"yep. When I lived in Sunnyvale, we went there at least once a month","date":"2014-01-22T19:45:45.451Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ogd","message":"oh sweet","date":"2014-01-22T19:45:51.456Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"the chapel next to it is pretty massive too","date":"2014-01-22T19:46:02.273Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"it's fun to explore, lots of secret passages","date":"2014-01-22T19:46:12.921Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"ogd, what's that big park near you. I often took the kids there hiking when we went up that way","date":"2014-01-22T19:46:43.318Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ogd","message":"joaquin miller park, lots of trails and mountain biking","date":"2014-01-22T19:47:10.682Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"creationix","message":"yep, that's the one","date":"2014-01-22T19:47:18.094Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"you live in the hills ogd ?","date":"2014-01-22T19:47:58.123Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ogd","message":"jesusabdullah: im at the bottom of the hills off macarthur blvd","date":"2014-01-22T19:48:36.824Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"The only places in Oakland I've been to are the temple, that park, mikeal's old house, couchdb's old office and mranney's old house","date":"2014-01-22T19:48:52.610Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ogd","message":"hah nice","date":"2014-01-22T19:49:06.268Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"Oh neat","date":"2014-01-22T19:49:11.741Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"creationix","message":"I still want to have a mini conference in my backyard sometime","date":"2014-01-22T19:49:52.581Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"2-acres is enough for at least 30 people right?","date":"2014-01-22T19:50:10.769Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"transportation is the tricky part. The nearest big airport is Dallas","date":"2014-01-22T19:50:54.517Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"I was thinking burning man","date":"2014-01-22T19:51:11.862Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"well, I assume most people will be alone and want their own tent","date":"2014-01-22T19:51:29.300Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"It would probably be the ultimate in, \"way to make your conferences accessible to people that don't want to listen to tech talks on acid\"","date":"2014-01-22T19:51:45.335Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"lol","date":"2014-01-22T19:51:57.940Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"I once got stuck in burning man traffic jam. I was coming back from Salt Lake driving to Sunnyvale","date":"2014-01-22T19:52:43.813Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ogd","message":"creationix: do you identify as living in Arklatexoma?","date":"2014-01-22T19:53:02.403Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"about the time we crossed into California, there were cars and trucks everywhere covered in white dust","date":"2014-01-22T19:53:02.763Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"ogd, the area is usually called the Arklatex, OK gets left out","date":"2014-01-22T19:53:34.108Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"I guess to honor the railroad tycoon who named the town Texarkana and also left out OK","date":"2014-01-22T19:53:56.166Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ogd","message":"haha","date":"2014-01-22T19:54:00.155Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"though to be fair, LA is also pretty far (about 90 miles to shreveport)","date":"2014-01-22T19:54:19.397Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"and we're *on* the texas/arkansas border","date":"2014-01-22T19:54:34.552Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"My dad likes your water tower","date":"2014-01-22T19:55:15.213Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"jesusabdullah, heh, you won't believe how much the town spent on coming up with a new slogan for that tower","date":"2014-01-22T19:55:47.124Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"and then the new slogan was so terrible, they reverted to the old one","date":"2014-01-22T19:55:56.672Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"\"twice as nice\" :D","date":"2014-01-22T19:56:02.691Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"there's a slogan? I thought it just said TEXARKANA in big letters","date":"2014-01-22T19:56:08.134Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"that too","date":"2014-01-22T19:56:12.920Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"creationix","message":"jesusabdullah, I haven't forgotten to send you a js-git t-shirt. I've just been busy and broke","date":"2014-01-22T19:59:15.564Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"maybe I'll end up bringing them to node-conf if you're going","date":"2014-01-22T19:59:28.049Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"I don't think I am","date":"2014-01-22T19:59:34.182Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":":(","date":"2014-01-22T19:59:35.045Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"I always get sticker shock from confs","date":"2014-01-22T19:59:44.332Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"yeah, I hear ya, especialy the flight cost","date":"2014-01-22T20:00:00.031Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"and haven't been in a good position to get someone to sponsor me in, well, a long long time","date":"2014-01-22T20:00:00.637Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"jesusabdullah, you're working on getting a new job right?","date":"2014-01-22T20:00:20.409Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"Yeah, I actually have one I just need to make the move","date":"2014-01-22T20:00:44.869Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"Probably calling u-haul about their pod things later today after the vet appointment","date":"2014-01-22T20:01:00.296Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"need to get Bird a health certificate","date":"2014-01-22T20:01:05.831Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"we ABF upack to move back to Texas, it was a great deal","date":"2014-01-22T20:01:44.964Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"it's kind of like the pod thing","date":"2014-01-22T20:01:53.880Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"The single pod's cheaper, I only have a bed and a few small misc. items","date":"2014-01-22T20:02:20.760Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"fair enough, I probably have more stuff","date":"2014-01-22T20:02:30.871Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"send me your new address when you get there and hopefully I'll have money to send the shirt then","date":"2014-01-22T20:02:54.179Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"Yeah, like the mini pod's already too big but I'm at like this pain point in shipping where you need Actual Freight but doesn't hit economy of scale","date":"2014-01-22T20:03:12.486Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"can't ups the bed I guess","date":"2014-01-22T20:04:55.219Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"Yeah exactly","date":"2014-01-22T20:04:59.410Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"Can't sell it either","date":"2014-01-22T20:05:04.364Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"Tried, the price point's just too low considering I can get reimbursement for shipping","date":"2014-01-22T20:05:19.961Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"creationix","message":"it could be worse. Good luck","date":"2014-01-22T20:05:46.872Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"Yup!","date":"2014-01-22T20:24:40.992Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"My only REAL concern is running out of money while waiting on paychecks","date":"2014-01-22T20:24:51.298Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"but that shouldn't happen","date":"2014-01-22T20:24:54.993Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"based on my RIGOUROUS MATHEMATICS","date":"2014-01-22T20:25:03.178Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"rowbit","message":"Hourly usage stats: [developer: 4, free: 94]","date":"2014-01-22T20:27:50.968Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"indexzero","message":"OHAI everyone","date":"2014-01-22T20:46:16.658Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"indexzero","action":"passed out hard, slept like 20 hours","date":"2014-01-22T20:46:24.678Z","type":"action"}
{"nick":"indexzero","message":"but I'm back on it :-D","date":"2014-01-22T20:46:29.824Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"hey defunctzombie - after a few grueling hours I finally added clipboard support to zuul: https://github.com/defunctzombie/zuul/pull/37","date":"2014-01-22T21:18:37.108Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"thlorenz: taking a look","date":"2014-01-22T21:18:47.252Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"defunctzombie: you can test it with the failing test example","date":"2014-01-22T21:19:19.113Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"thlorenz: cool","date":"2014-01-22T21:19:27.991Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"at this point only the last trace gets a button","date":"2014-01-22T21:19:29.744Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"why is that?","date":"2014-01-22T21:19:46.599Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"that's good enough IMO anything else gets unnecessarily complex and is less reliable","date":"2014-01-22T21:19:50.301Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"well, I know for a fact that sometimes the latest trace is crap that is withing assertion libs","date":"2014-01-22T21:20:23.408Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"(this my fix for stack mapper)","date":"2014-01-22T21:20:28.184Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"so the last trace is totally useless","date":"2014-01-22T21:20:33.437Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"and the third or 4th trace is actually the interesting one","date":"2014-01-22T21:20:45.380Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"I can try to change it if you like, but in my last hours of experience trying to have multiple zeroclipboards going on is unstable (like it doesn't always work)","date":"2014-01-22T21:20:53.180Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"run this in the jasmine test","date":"2014-01-22T21:21:03.084Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"well I meant the top most trace","date":"2014-01-22T21:21:05.724Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"zuul --ui jasmine --local -- test.js","date":"2014-01-22T21:21:10.057Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"yea, I understand","date":"2014-01-22T21:21:13.641Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"ok","date":"2014-01-22T21:21:15.800Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"is zeroclipboard just a shitty module?","date":"2014-01-22T21:21:29.616Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"github does it somehow","date":"2014-01-22T21:21:33.436Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"they have pages with multiple clipboard things","date":"2014-01-22T21:21:44.024Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"I don't mind the loading in via script tag that is fine","date":"2014-01-22T21:22:09.043Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"defunctzombie: I know, but do we really need this?","date":"2014-01-22T21:22:56.503Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"so the jasmine thing works fine for me","date":"2014-01-22T21:23:03.617Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"I mean a copy button on every trace?","date":"2014-01-22T21:23:13.498Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"what is the copy button for?","date":"2014-01-22T21:23:29.365Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"just put a breakpoint on the last one and step backwards if you need to","date":"2014-01-22T21:23:30.800Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"opening in chrome devtools?","date":"2014-01-22T21:23:33.318Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"is that it?","date":"2014-01-22T21:23:34.560Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"to copy the trace yes :)","date":"2014-01-22T21:23:38.987Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"then you CMD-O CMD-V into devtools and boom the file is open with line highlighted","date":"2014-01-22T21:24:04.508Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"I see","date":"2014-01-22T21:24:11.038Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"ok.. well fix the deps","date":"2014-01-22T21:24:21.035Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"so I feel one copy button is fine","date":"2014-01-22T21:24:24.248Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"and then make sure it passes the zuul tests","date":"2014-01-22T21:24:29.473Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"what deps?","date":"2014-01-22T21:24:34.377Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"and merge it in","date":"2014-01-22T21:24:34.527Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"if anyone wants more functionality they will open an issue","date":"2014-01-22T21:24:46.071Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"it should be fixed","date":"2014-01-22T21:24:46.348Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"yeah, that's what I thought","date":"2014-01-22T21:24:57.645Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"thlorenz: remove the ~","date":"2014-01-22T21:25:07.382Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"ah yes you mean 'fix' === pin ;)","date":"2014-01-22T21:25:20.483Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"correct :D","date":"2014-01-22T21:25:26.819Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"not in my book but oh well :P","date":"2014-01-22T21:25:31.267Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"defunctzombie: so I gotta run the entire suite with saucelabs or just locally?","date":"2014-01-22T21:26:30.452Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"thlorenz: sauce","date":"2014-01-22T21:26:40.924Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"npm run","date":"2014-01-22T21:26:44.048Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"er","date":"2014-01-22T21:26:45.340Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"npm test","date":"2014-01-22T21:26:46.648Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","action":"digs out saucelabs email to find account info","date":"2014-01-22T21:26:57.983Z","type":"action"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"will do everything it needs","date":"2014-01-22T21:26:58.884Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"thlorenz: just setup your zuulrc","date":"2014-01-22T21:27:06.118Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"once and done :)","date":"2014-01-22T21:27:12.489Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"I did that at work :P","date":"2014-01-22T21:27:19.893Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"haha","date":"2014-01-22T21:27:24.178Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"rowbit","message":"Hourly usage stats: [developer: 0, free: 84]","date":"2014-01-22T21:27:50.934Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"thlorenz: nice work btw","date":"2014-01-22T21:28:28.516Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"thanks was mostly trial and error","date":"2014-01-22T21:29:19.121Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"defunctzombie: that flash thing gives no feedback why it is not working","date":"2014-01-22T21:29:35.243Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"so you gotta change one little thing at a time until you got what you need ;)","date":"2014-01-22T21:29:48.293Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"I bet","date":"2014-01-22T21:29:48.293Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"thlorenz: is it possible to base64 the swf file?","date":"2014-01-22T21:30:05.927Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"how big is it?","date":"2014-01-22T21:30:12.171Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"I doubt it - 1.91kb","date":"2014-01-22T21:30:46.110Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"I also wonder if they could optimize it more","date":"2014-01-22T21:30:55.903Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"once you mess with that things may stop working again","date":"2014-01-22T21:30:57.645Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"or if we can get github to share theirs","date":"2014-01-22T21:31:05.529Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"that'd be nice","date":"2014-01-22T21:31:17.689Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"defunctzombie: you coming to brooklynjs tonite?","date":"2014-01-22T21:32:25.690Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"thlorenz: can't, not in NYC","date":"2014-01-22T21:32:35.738Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"I'm speaking about source maps and zuul will make an apperance ;)","date":"2014-01-22T21:32:37.610Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"thlorenz: back in Atlanta","date":"2014-01-22T21:32:38.204Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"thlorenz: :(","date":"2014-01-22T21:32:42.595Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"ah oh well","date":"2014-01-22T21:32:42.945Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"I wish I was there","date":"2014-01-22T21:32:44.851Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"I totally would go if I was in nyc","date":"2014-01-22T21:32:51.906Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"how is all the snow?","date":"2014-01-22T21:32:55.300Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"white","date":"2014-01-22T21:33:00.970Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"did you guys get 2 feet like they said?","date":"2014-01-22T21:33:01.747Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"really? not grey yet?","date":"2014-01-22T21:33:08.028Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"not sure I haven't been outside much","date":"2014-01-22T21:33:14.921Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"so I'd say about 0.5 meters of snow from looking at the roof tops","date":"2014-01-22T21:33:37.736Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"on the roof tops it's still white","date":"2014-01-22T21:33:52.930Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","action":"running all the zuul tests ........","date":"2014-01-22T21:34:49.897Z","type":"action"}
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{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"defunctzombie: so awesome how easy this is to setup though","date":"2014-01-22T21:35:18.812Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"that was the idea :)","date":"2014-01-22T21:35:32.643Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":".5 meters holy shit","date":"2014-01-22T21:35:43.904Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"that is a lot of snow","date":"2014-01-22T21:35:46.205Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"that's less than 2 feet :)","date":"2014-01-22T21:36:52.108Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"actually I'm lying on second 'from the window' inspection it looks more like 0.25 meters","date":"2014-01-22T21:37:28.465Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"heh","date":"2014-01-22T21:42:08.812Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"defunctzombie: I got this:\"Uncaught Error: The environment you requested was unavailable.: {\"status\": 13, \"sessionId\": \"b8ca1863f3e24c8baabea0085960a25f\", \"value\": {\"message\": \"Browser failed to start\"}}\" :(","date":"2014-01-22T21:44:20.100Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"it was queuing iphone","date":"2014-01-22T21:44:51.173Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"defunctzombie: passed on travis though: https://travis-ci.org/defunctzombie/zuul/builds/17437222","date":"2014-01-22T21:45:45.997Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"so good to merge?","date":"2014-01-22T21:45:49.267Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"thlorenz: yea","date":"2014-01-22T21:47:11.736Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"thlorenz: saucelabs shit out sometimes","date":"2014-01-22T21:47:17.019Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"thlorenz: I need to look into that error 13 more","date":"2014-01-22T21:47:25.512Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"defunctzombie: actually nm this one failed: https://travis-ci.org/defunctzombie/zuul/builds/17437218","date":"2014-01-22T21:47:43.108Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"ah, so the latest one passed -- it's a bit unstable, I'll merge though","date":"2014-01-22T21:48:20.078Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"yea, not sure 100% why it happens","date":"2014-01-22T21:48:45.490Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"this webdriver module is kinda shit","date":"2014-01-22T21:48:49.984Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"so many lines of code for I dunno what","date":"2014-01-22T21:48:58.188Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"defunctzombie: merged - you prob wanna pub this as a minor","date":"2014-01-22T21:49:31.049Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"k, we will give it a day to marinate and see if you think of anything that was missed after using it yourself and then will pub","date":"2014-01-22T21:50:25.422Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"groundwater","message":"who is going to campjs?","date":"2014-01-22T23:14:30.806Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"joshwnj","message":"groundwater: i wish i was!! but my daughter maybe going to enter the world that weekend :)","date":"2014-01-22T23:32:58.981Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"joshwnj","message":"groundwater: you going?","date":"2014-01-22T23:33:39.713Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"substack: ping","date":"2014-01-22T23:35:58.013Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"substack","message":"defunctzombie: pong","date":"2014-01-22T23:38:29.151Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"substack: https://github.com/defunctzombie/ripple-emulator/blob/master/lib/client/app.js#L22","date":"2014-01-22T23:38:51.104Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"I had to share this","date":"2014-01-22T23:38:56.474Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"they have some crazy build system","date":"2014-01-22T23:39:02.942Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"that shims in the ripple function","date":"2014-01-22T23:39:10.417Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"after they have concatenated various files together","date":"2014-01-22T23:39:27.325Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"groundwater","message":"joshwnj i dunno, hadn't thought about it until today","date":"2014-01-22T23:39:31.181Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"joshwnj","message":"groundwater: especially wanted to go because it's not often a tech conference is just down the road from home :) are you in melbourne?","date":"2014-01-22T23:41:12.169Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"groundwater","message":"joshwnj no i'm in SF","date":"2014-01-22T23:41:41.006Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"groundwater","message":"it would be a fair journey","date":"2014-01-22T23:41:44.459Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"joshwnj","message":"yeh it's a long flight! about to do it myself this sunday.","date":"2014-01-22T23:42:53.456Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"joshwnj","message":"location of campjs will be worth the trip in itself ;)","date":"2014-01-22T23:43:09.914Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"ogd","message":"campjs is fun, a+ would attend again","date":"2014-01-22T23:43:34.137Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"joshwnj","message":"ogd: did you go to campjs last year in queensland?","date":"2014-01-22T23:45:17.489Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ogd","message":"joshwnj: yep the one earlier in the year","date":"2014-01-22T23:49:17.589Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"joshwnj","message":"looks like they run a good show, i'm sure campjs3 will not disappoint","date":"2014-01-22T23:51:30.030Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"groundwater","message":"ogd you thinking of going?","date":"2014-01-22T23:54:39.243Z","type":"message"}