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{"nick":"dominictarr___","message":"substack: have you heard of this browser: http://www.maxthon.com/","date":"2014-04-08T04:58:20.771Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr___","message":"it uses a fork of v8 and is faster in v8's own benchmarks","date":"2014-04-08T04:58:36.588Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"jjjohnny_","message":"dominictarr___: did u read this http://startupboy.com/2014/04/01/the-fifth-protocol/","date":"2014-04-08T05:51:59.534Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"dominictarr___","message":"jjjohnny_: people take the idea of money for granted, and are so concerned with getting it that they rarely stop to think about what money even is.","date":"2014-04-08T07:55:24.706Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr___","message":"I don't buy into the \"store of value\" idea of money","date":"2014-04-08T07:55:51.740Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr___","message":"there is still something that is totally centralized about bitcoin.","date":"2014-04-08T07:58:14.431Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr___","message":"there is only one genesis block.","date":"2014-04-08T07:58:21.834Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr___","message":"and only one block chain. node's that have no bitcoins still possess the capability for providing value (i.e. working)","date":"2014-04-08T07:59:24.640Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr___","message":"except for them to get any bitcoins they must trade that labor/energy only with those other nodes that already have bitcoins.","date":"2014-04-08T07:59:57.014Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"substack","message":"bwhaha revisited my angular clone stuff","date":"2014-04-08T08:02:17.507Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"substack","message":"I think I've pretty much got the basics all down","date":"2014-04-08T08:02:25.769Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"substack","message":"it's basically just a response for people who already know how to build webapps to give to manager types who really want to use a tool with a brand like angular","date":"2014-04-08T08:03:32.612Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jxson_","message":"haha like a subversive non-brand that lets you do what you want?","date":"2014-04-08T08:04:04.129Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"substack","message":"pretty much!","date":"2014-04-08T08:04:10.836Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jxson_","message":"i love it","date":"2014-04-08T08:04:24.733Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"substack","message":"it does offer some structure that is useful for people who need that while not getting in your way at all","date":"2014-04-08T08:04:30.111Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"substack","message":"I've got the scoping model working really well now","date":"2014-04-08T08:05:56.539Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"substack","message":"so you can do all the same things that ng-controller can do, but as modules","date":"2014-04-08T08:06:13.742Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jxson_","message":"thats nice, I'm about to use angular on a project. I'll have to compare the two once I have a solid understanding of angular","date":"2014-04-08T08:06:22.741Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"substack","message":"and none of that functionality is even implemented in the core of it, it's all userland","date":"2014-04-08T08:06:26.568Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jxson_","message":"the data binding seems like the thing most people claim to have value who really like angular","date":"2014-04-08T08:08:06.246Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jxson_","message":"substack: this is cool","date":"2014-04-08T08:11:22.735Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"substack","message":"one thing I need to figure out is a good way to attach this stuff to a router","date":"2014-04-08T08:11:44.822Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"substack","message":"just so I can put that in the examples, not that I plan on baking that into the core of it","date":"2014-04-08T08:12:05.351Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"substack","message":"jxson_: and the second example does combined server<->client rendering even!","date":"2014-04-08T08:13:48.995Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jxson_","message":"hmm, yeah it seems the router would add some extra complexity to the example if you use something like single-page.","date":"2014-04-08T08:17:32.034Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jxson_","message":"I wonder if there would be a simple way to just show how the router would work without getting too comlex","date":"2014-04-08T08:17:48.037Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"substack","message":"jxson: I think most of the value that frameworks provide is in showing how to do things for people who are unsure about how to start","date":"2014-04-08T08:25:09.868Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"substack","message":"so a simple example that includes a router could really help with that","date":"2014-04-08T08:25:32.546Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"niftylettuce_","message":"Just released Draftling (took 2 days to build) https://draftling.com/?t=1396977386494#niftylettuce@gmail.com:1396977375401","date":"2014-04-08T18:09:02.805Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"niftylettuce_","message":"had to go with the '-ling', couldn't get draftsha.re (\".re\" is strict for EU residents only), \"draftshare.com\" taken, and getdraftshare.com was too long :(","date":"2014-04-08T18:09:40.146Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"niftylettuce_","message":"pkrumins: ^","date":"2014-04-08T18:10:03.985Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"niftylettuce_","message":"paul_irish: ^","date":"2014-04-08T18:10:12.074Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"mafintosh","message":"thlorenz: I'm gonna try to do a spike on your issue, https://github.com/mafintosh/tar-stream/issues/14 this weekend.","date":"2014-04-08T19:28:47.422Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"mafintosh: awesome :)","date":"2014-04-08T19:28:58.914Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"do you thinkg it's doable?","date":"2014-04-08T19:29:06.130Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mafintosh","message":"yeah - might end up in a seperate module though (as a beginning anyway)","date":"2014-04-08T19:30:25.930Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"mafintosh: that'd also allow me to make dockerify-github-repo to return streams instead of functions that return streams","date":"2014-04-08T19:31:05.821Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"right now they need to be functions since the streaming starts even though I'm not streaming the result out on the other end","date":"2014-04-08T19:31:35.263Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"but w/ the requested change the streams would be truly lazy","date":"2014-04-08T19:31:57.788Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mafintosh","message":"thlorenz: wouldn't you be able to do that now if you changed https://github.com/thlorenz/dockerify/blob/master/index.js#L114 to just be a PassThrough?","date":"2014-04-08T19:41:57.989Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"mafintosh: no cuz the extract stream already activates","date":"2014-04-08T19:42:19.072Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"mafintosh: cuz this line is called immediately https://github.com/thlorenz/dockerify/blob/master/index.js#L24","date":"2014-04-08T19:43:18.021Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"and once on('data') hooks up things start flowing","date":"2014-04-08T19:43:31.050Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"*on('entry')","date":"2014-04-08T19:43:46.285Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"mafintosh: so I'm gonna wait for you to do some magic :)","date":"2014-04-08T19:44:20.088Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"mafintosh","message":"thlorenz: i'll try :) but if the `out` stream in dockerify was a PassThrough then it wouldn't emit any data until someone starts reading from it since it would be streams2.","date":"2014-04-08T20:02:16.659Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"mafintosh: interesting, but shouldn't that have worked out of the box when used with node 0.10?","date":"2014-04-08T20:03:16.011Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"anyhoo at least I have that as backup then, but I'm counting on you to come through with that transform API :P","date":"2014-04-08T20:03:49.322Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mafintosh","message":"thlorenz: oh, through is actually through2 - so yeah doh.","date":"2014-04-08T20:11:29.220Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"mafintosh: a bit confusing I guess :)","date":"2014-04-08T20:12:05.126Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mafintosh","message":"thlorenz: i finally got what you mean now - you loose the 'entry' events in the current setup","date":"2014-04-08T20:12:09.608Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"mafintosh: yep","date":"2014-04-08T20:12:24.681Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mafintosh","message":"In the worst case I could do on('data') like setup where entries won't be emitted until you attach an on('entry') handler","date":"2014-04-08T20:14:17.256Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"mafintosh: that would work, but why not just emit 'data' instead to be compat?","date":"2014-04-08T20:14:41.186Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"it'd be considered an objectMode stream","date":"2014-04-08T20:14:53.067Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"jjjohnny","message":"dominic_: the takeaway from that article is the the protocol is not really about currencies or money","date":"2014-04-08T23:07:15.050Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"jjjohnny","message":"it's a \"distributed ledger\"","date":"2014-04-08T23:09:20.515Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"dominic_","message":"jjjohnny: that is a good point - it's really just a globally replicated linked list","date":"2014-04-08T23:43:10.472Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"dominic_","message":"that is even more general than \"ledger\"","date":"2014-04-08T23:43:44.994Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominic_","message":"maksimlin: hey! I'm in melbourne!","date":"2014-04-08T23:43:53.947Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"maksimlin","message":"dominic_: Welcome !!","date":"2014-04-08T23:44:15.466Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"maksimlin","message":"did you just fly in today ?","date":"2014-04-08T23:44:35.675Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"dominic_","message":"maksimlin: I got in yesterday","date":"2014-04-08T23:46:09.038Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"maksimlin","message":"dominic_: I think you brought the wellies weather with you ;-)","date":"2014-04-08T23:46:17.931Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominic_","message":"yes, it does seem like that.","date":"2014-04-08T23:46:59.613Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"maksimlin","message":"dominic_: are you at the cssconf today? I'm working today so I'll only be there tomorrow and prob Fri - can't wiat for your talk tomorrow, has your hardware worked out ok ?","date":"2014-04-08T23:48:14.120Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominic_","message":"hmm, how do I know where C libs are being looked for?","date":"2014-04-08T23:48:24.891Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"maksimlin","message":"dominic_: you mean running gcc ?","date":"2014-04-08T23:48:43.487Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominic_","message":"maksimlin: no, I'm working on my talk in the hotel. I pitched a fairly ambitious one","date":"2014-04-08T23:48:48.700Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominic_","message":"maksimlin: yes","date":"2014-04-08T23:48:51.294Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"maksimlin","message":"I think the path is set by the -L param","date":"2014-04-08T23:49:15.919Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"maksimlin","message":"dominic_: http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Directory-Options.html","date":"2014-04-08T23:50:37.347Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominic_","message":"hmm, It's saying it can't see libgif.so.6 (runtime error) but it's in /usr/local/lib","date":"2014-04-08T23:50:55.499Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"maksimlin","message":"dominic_: oh hang you mean when you run a exe you have compiled then","date":"2014-04-08T23:51:29.830Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"maksimlin","message":"dominic_: or if you mean gcc can't find it thats strange if you have it on your gcc cli - in the past I've jsut usually used http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/pkg-config/","date":"2014-04-08T23:54:25.938Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"maksimlin","message":"pkg-config will just fill in the right names and paths for you","date":"2014-04-08T23:54:48.894Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominic_","message":"maksimlin: okay I got it to work - I just copied from /usr/local/lib to /usr/lib/","date":"2014-04-08T23:56:50.470Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"maksimlin","message":"dominic_: well thats another way to do it! :-) sorry been a *long* while since I've done any serious c dev work - I'll leave you to it","date":"2014-04-08T23:58:47.302Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominic_","message":"maksimlin: I had to manually install libgif5 because I am using a computer my friend gave me because my laptop got stolen and I don't have time to update the OS because I have a talk tomorrow!","date":"2014-04-08T23:59:04.598Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominic_","message":"compounding fail. it's actually working now though.","date":"2014-04-08T23:59:29.830Z","type":"message"}