A problem with podlove

[mendocinotim]

Please watch this short video so I can show you what’s happening.
http://jing.videvent.com/2013-04-28_15-48-33.mp4

In short: The issue I’m having is with the large play button.
When I click it, nothing happens.
When I then click it a second time, it plays.

Additionally, there are some other issues that I’ve just found.
You are probably aware of these, but in case you’re not, please watch this movie, so I can demonstrate..
http://jing.videvent.com/2013-04-28_16-32-31.mp4

In short: This has to do with when I want to jump or scrub the audio from the player. Where, there is not any scrubber – yes, there’s a place for it, but it is confusing – since ..

1. When I look at it, there’s a horizontal scrubber as shown here.. http://jing.videvent.com/2013-04-28_16-40-56.png
2. But it appears empty when playing.
3. And if I click anywhere in it, the duration resets to 00:00:00.

I am on an iMac, running 10.8.3
The podlove version is 2.0.7

I set you up with an Administrator login if you need it; and will gladly send it to you if you want to email or otherwise contact me for this using a secure channel.

PLEASE NOTE: I first posted these issues here..
http://podlove.org/podlove-web-player/, but received an advisory from Tim Pritlove to submit this here instead. This was his comment..

// QUOTE begin

Please put this here: http://github.com/podlove/podlove-publisher/issues as that’s the place to get support from (and which all the developers track).

Please also state the URL where this happens and what OS/browser you are using. As a quick help, it might be helpful to provide more formats than just MP3 and there is definitely a problem with your CSS interfering with the player too.

//QUOTE end

So, based on his comment about CSS 'interfering - would CSS cause the button (double press) issue I wonder? I thought that JS was doing that.

Thank you.

[mendocinotim]

BTW - I just tried installing podlove into a new instance of WP (locally hosted) with a simple theme (e.g., minimal CSS), and both issues exist here as well; which suggests the issue is not CSS related.

You can see it here http://dev.mendocinotim.com/test/

[Kambfhase]

First off: Podlove is the project. The Podlove Web Player is the plugin you have installed. The Podlove Publisher is an even bigger WordPress plugin. Which means, you opened this is issue in the wrong repo, but since Tim forwarded you here, and you have such nice movies we'll try to solve this anyways.

You are right, there are things interfering here. And it can't just be the CSS, as CSS rarely alters the behavior of a button. Most likely there is something weird going on in the JavaScript.

Can't tell for sure right now. Unless someone is quicker I'll have another look at it tomorrow.

[mendocinotim]

Kambfhase,

Thank you for the response - and I look forward to your next thoughts.
Yes - I have noticed the difference between the player and the Podlove Publisher plugins; although, I have also downloaded the latter, I'm not clear on how Publisher is actually used yet. Of course, it's still under Alpha (and I know that), and so is not fully ready for prime time; and I see you have not yet gotten around to publishing documentation for Publisher either - so I may have to wait before switching over.

Do I even need Publisher 'over just a player? I don't know how to answer that - as I'm not fully clear on the differences between them. I'm sure I will, in time - and I look forward to it.

I understand that Publisher incorporates Player as a part of its suite; but the rest of it's capabilities, and its general purpose are still not fully clear to me.

No biggie though. I can wait on that question for now.
First, lets just get the player to work; as I really like it's look and feature-set, a'lot.
:-)

Looking ahead - here's what I plan to do with Player (or Publisher); maybe you can let me know if Publisher would be a better choice for me..

I have a pre-recorded library of radio shows, produced by my father, done over the last 50 years of his life, called "Fred Halls SWING THING". I now stream these shows 24/7 over the internet at http://swing-thing.com

There are 1006 of these shows - each about 48min long.

Many of them have interviews with some of the biggest names in swing and the music of the 30s, 40s, and 50s.
And I am now gathering and organizing the original raw interviews that Fred recorded with all these people, and I plan to make them available to historians and fans of the Swing and Big Bands era through that website.

I have been looking for a player that can be used extensively throughout the site, to publish these many hundreds of hours of material with - and I must say, Podlove is the one that excites me more than any of the other I've looked at. Because, as I prepare this archive of audio interviews, I plan to include playlists with many of them, that will act as markers (or an index) that historians can use to jump to directly to the parts of the interviews that interest them.
So, looking ahead, that's my plan for Podlove.

Anyway, for now, I'll wait for your next thoughts.
Thanks again for responding.

[mendocinotim]

Please see my next (possibly related) issue here - which I posted to the Podlove Web Player support section instead of here..
podlove/podlove-web-player#61

[Kambfhase]

Same as with the other issue: Our Player seems to collide with "MP3-jPlayer". Please try disabling that and the other players.

[mendocinotim]

Yeah - I see how that is affecting it alright.
Problem is, I need one of those other players for the live stream.

So, here's what I tried.
I created a second WP website just for testing this - where I have stripped out basically everything from the page layout to give me a plain white content area with no footer, header, or sidebar elements - this uses minimal CSS so I can display the player in the main website using an iframe.

In the player's settings I set it to use a default player width of 655px.
Unfortunately, this is what I am seeing in the page that holds the player..

Of course, I would much rather embed this directly in the main site 'instead of using an iframe, if at all possible.

[timpritlove]

You can actually use the Podlove Web Player for MP3 Live Streams too. Just give it the MP3 Streaming URL. Is there anything the other player does the PWP doesn't?

[SimonWaldherr]

i am sorry, there is a bug in the PWP, please change the 655 to 655px (ignore the "px" after the input field).
in the next version you can change it back to 655

[mendocinotim]

Simon - even after I added "px", it's still a problem..

[mendocinotim]

I HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS!

I just realized that the main site plugins included the following conflicting audio plugins..

None of these (it turns out) are required - and must have been left over from earlier times.
I deactivated them, and now the Podlove Web Player works.

I should have caught it sooner.
Argh!!
See http://swing-thing.com/tests

[Kambfhase]

:)