backslash on JIS keyboard

[Lizzix]

Hi, there.
I want to remap yen key (international 3) to backslash;
however, when I map yen key to backslash, it prints close bracket ( ] ).
If I set yen key to non us backslash, it prints section ( § ).
Is there any way to solve this issue?

[griffin-stewie]

same here. I'm using JIS keyboard that builtin with MacBook Pro Late 2016.
It's working when I set Virtual Keyboard Keyboard Type to ISO or ANSI, but it doesn't work when I set it as JIS.

Does anyone has a solution about this issue?

[hirakujira]

First, open this link in Safari to import JIS to ASCII settings.

karabiner://karabiner/assets/complex_modifications/import?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpqrs.org%2Fosx%2Fkarabiner%2Fcomplex_modifications%2Fjson%2Fjis_to_ascii.json

Then, modify the config file, you can cmd+shift+G to ~/.config/karabiner/assets/complex_modifications/ and you can see a json file.

Find "バッククオートとチルダを割り当てる。" in that file, and modify that part to

{ "description": "バッククオートとチルダを割り当てる。", "manipulators": [ { "type": "basic", "from": { "key_code": "international3", "modifiers": { "optional": [ "any" ] } }, "to": [ { "key_code": "international3", "modifiers": [ "option" ] } ] } ] }

That's all. remember to reopen karabiner-elements to apply

[griffin-stewie]

@hirakujira
Thank you. I could get behavior that I expect.

@tekezo
I think @hirakujira's way is one of workaround and it's not straightforward. I wish I could remap that I expect via "Simple Modifications" instead of "Complex Modifications".

[hirakujira]

@griffin-stewie

I think this is not very possible unless theres a GUI for complex modifications.
Because the symbol \ in JIS keyboard should be option + yen (international 3), which is not configurable in simple modification.

An easier way to do this is asking @tekezo consider to add sample config like what I modified in the sample list, so you can just add this feature by adding configuration file

[griffin-stewie]

We could remap Yen to backslash simply Karabiner(previous version of Karabiner-Elements) so I thought current behavior is not expected behavior.

[terry182]

Same here. But my problem with my JIS keyboard is that it has a backslash key right next to the slash key. The event viewer shows the key was International1 but I can't remap it to backslash.

I tried the remapping and it gives the same result as @ambieneuphoria

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[Kuniwak]

This problem still occurred on 12.10.0.

That was the event logs when I typed ] by a built-in keyboard on MacBook Pro (15-inch, 2018). It seems the ] was recognized as \, but I could type ] by the same key on other apps like TextEdit as correctly.

I assumed the problem caused by keyboard type mismatch (expected JIS but it might be recognized as US). So I had tried following steps:

1. Try the comment
   1. I confirmed that the problem was not solved on EventViewer
2. Explicitly set a keyboard type
   1. I modified the country code of VirtualKeyboard to 45 from 0
   2. Then I selected JIS on the presented keyboard detection dialogs
   3. I restarted my computer
   4. I Confirmed that the problem was not solved on EventViewer
3. Re-install Karabiner-Elements
   1. I uninstalled Karabiner-Elements
   2. I removed /Library/Application\ Support/org.pqrs and ~/.config/karabiner
   3. I re-installed Karabiner-Elements v12.10.0
   4. I confirmed that the problem was not solved on EventViewer

(and why I used v12.10.0 is I could not activate the driver of 13.13.0 on Catalina.)

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My environments

sw_vers

$ sw_vers
ProductName:	Mac OS X
ProductVersion:	10.15.7
BuildVersion:	19H15

~/.config/karabiner/karabiner.json

{
    "global": {
        "check_for_updates_on_startup": true,
        "show_in_menu_bar": true,
        "show_profile_name_in_menu_bar": false
    },
    "profiles": [
        {
            "complex_modifications": {
                "parameters": {
                    "basic.simultaneous_threshold_milliseconds": 50,
                    "basic.to_delayed_action_delay_milliseconds": 500,
                    "basic.to_if_alone_timeout_milliseconds": 1000,
                    "basic.to_if_held_down_threshold_milliseconds": 500,
                    "mouse_motion_to_scroll.speed": 100
                },
                "rules": []
            },
            "devices": [
                {
                    "disable_built_in_keyboard_if_exists": false,
                    "fn_function_keys": [],
                    "identifiers": {
                        "is_keyboard": true,
                        "is_pointing_device": false,
                        "product_id": 34304,
                        "vendor_id": 1452
                    },
                    "ignore": false,
                    "manipulate_caps_lock_led": true,
                    "simple_modifications": []
                }
            ],
            "fn_function_keys": [
                {
                    "from": {
                        "key_code": "f1"
                    },
                    "to": {
                        "consumer_key_code": "display_brightness_decrement"
                    }
                },
                {
                    "from": {
                        "key_code": "f2"
                    },
                    "to": {
                        "consumer_key_code": "display_brightness_increment"
                    }
                },
                {
                    "from": {
                        "key_code": "f3"
                    },
                    "to": {
                        "key_code": "mission_control"
                    }
                },
                {
                    "from": {
                        "key_code": "f4"
                    },
                    "to": {
                        "key_code": "launchpad"
                    }
                },
                {
                    "from": {
                        "key_code": "f5"
                    },
                    "to": {
                        "key_code": "illumination_decrement"
                    }
                },
                {
                    "from": {
                        "key_code": "f6"
                    },
                    "to": {
                        "key_code": "illumination_increment"
                    }
                },
                {
                    "from": {
                        "key_code": "f7"
                    },
                    "to": {
                        "consumer_key_code": "rewind"
                    }
                },
                {
                    "from": {
                        "key_code": "f8"
                    },
                    "to": {
                        "consumer_key_code": "play_or_pause"
                    }
                },
                {
                    "from": {
                        "key_code": "f9"
                    },
                    "to": {
                        "consumer_key_code": "fast_forward"
                    }
                },
                {
                    "from": {
                        "key_code": "f10"
                    },
                    "to": {
                        "consumer_key_code": "mute"
                    }
                },
                {
                    "from": {
                        "key_code": "f11"
                    },
                    "to": {
                        "consumer_key_code": "volume_decrement"
                    }
                },
                {
                    "from": {
                        "key_code": "f12"
                    },
                    "to": {
                        "consumer_key_code": "volume_increment"
                    }
                }
            ],
            "name": "Default profile",
            "parameters": {
                "delay_milliseconds_before_open_device": 1000
            },
            "selected": true,
            "simple_modifications": [],
            "virtual_hid_keyboard": {
                "country_code": 45,
                "mouse_key_xy_scale": 100
            }
        }
    ]
}

/Library/Application\ Support/org.pqrs/tmp/karabiner_grabber_device_details.json

[
    {
        "device_id": 4294969187,
        "is_karabiner_virtual_hid_device": false,
        "is_keyboard": true,
        "is_pointing_device": false,
        "product_id": 34304,
        "vendor_id": 1452
    },
    {
        "device_id": 4294968665,
        "is_built_in_keyboard": true,
        "is_karabiner_virtual_hid_device": false,
        "is_keyboard": true,
        "is_pointing_device": false,
        "location_id": 18446744071567310848,
        "manufacturer": "Apple Inc.",
        "product": "Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad",
        "product_id": 636,
        "serial_number": "FM782150110HYYMAM+TWN",
        "transport": "USB",
        "vendor_id": 1452
    },
    {
        "device_id": 4294968664,
        "is_built_in_pointing_device": true,
        "is_karabiner_virtual_hid_device": false,
        "is_keyboard": false,
        "is_pointing_device": true,
        "location_id": 18446744071567310848,
        "manufacturer": "Apple Inc.",
        "product": "Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad",
        "product_id": 636,
        "serial_number": "FM782150110HYYMAM+TWN",
        "transport": "USB",
        "vendor_id": 1452
    }
]

/Library/Application\ Support/org.pqrs/tmp/karabiner_grabber_manipulator_environment.json

{
    "frontmost_application": {
        "bundle_identifier": "com.google.Chrome",
        "file_path": "/Applications/Google Chrome.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Chrome"
    },
    "input_source": {
        "input_mode_id": "com.apple.inputmethod.Roman",
        "input_source_id": "com.apple.inputmethod.Kotoeri.Roman",
        "language": "en"
    },
    "system_preferences_properties": {
        "keyboard_types": [
            [
                {
                    "country_code": 45,
                    "product_id": 10203,
                    "vendor_id": 5824
                },
                42
            ]
        ],
        "scroll_direction_is_natural": true,
        "use_fkeys_as_standard_function_keys": false
    },
    "variables": {},
    "virtual_hid_keyboard_country_code": 45,
    "virtual_hid_keyboard_keyboard_type": "jis"
}

[thomas-huang]

First, open this link in Safari to import JIS to ASCII settings.首先，在 Safari 中打开此链接以将 JIS 导入 ASCII 设置。

karabiner://karabiner/assets/complex_modifications/import?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpqrs.org%2Fosx%2Fkarabiner%2Fcomplex_modifications%2Fjson%2Fjis_to_ascii.json

Then, modify the config file, you can cmd+shift+G to /.config/karabiner/assets/complex_modifications/ and you can see a json file.然后，修改配置文件，可以cmd+shift+G到/.config/karabiner/assets/complex_modifications/，就可以看到一个json文件。

Find "バッククオートとチルダを割り当てる。" in that file, and modify that part to

{ "description": "バッククオートとチルダを割り当てる。", "manipulators": [ { "type": "basic", "from": { "key_code": "international3", "modifiers": { "optional": [ "any" ] } }, "to": [ { "key_code": "international3", "modifiers": [ "option" ] } ] } ] }

That's all. remember to reopen karabiner-elements to apply就这样。记得重新打开 karabiner-elements 来应用

It works, thx