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Revert #2690 #2693

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@tibers tibers commented Oct 1, 2021

Unfortunately the author of #2690 was tragically born without a sense of humor. This disability makes them a protected class.

There's actually several problems with #2690. The first being that the author is ultimately trying to deal with what they feel is a failure of the moderators, without actually having a discussion with the moderators. Changing the CoC doesn't actually change their behavior - if you feel like they're doing a poor job in the first place they're going to continue to do a poor job.

Twitter is not github. That's not the correct place to state a commit message.

Individual pieces of ruby can have their own CoCs. #2690 does nothing to change the other CoCs, which are often simply the same text as they're parts of forks or simply copied around.

Unfortunately none of the open source projects on planet earth have managed to objectively define what is pornography offensive which dovetails into the earlier comment of correctly addressing concerns.

I am actually a firebreather as a hobby, and a wizard by self identified religious affiliation. I am claiming protections under the existing text of the Code of Conduct in the master branch and demanding this pull request be accepted.

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Quintasan commented Oct 1, 2021

I believe that part of #2691 should be reverted as well. Precisely, the removal of:

Participants will be tolerant of opposing views.

How are we supposed to discuss anything if we don't tolerate opposing views? Being tolerant of opposing views is fundamental to having a proper discussion.

Initially I thought that #2690 (comment) was made as a joke but then I realized it actually got removed it in #2691 which made me feel really sad as I don't think anyone can a have a healthy discussion about anything without tolerating views that are opposite to theirs.

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Doch88 commented Oct 1, 2021

It was pretty obvious that hmdne was trolling here. And they have approved his pull request.

@Try2Code if they are not a protected class, they will lose that right, yes. That's California Core Corporate Policies in work. And we enacted them.

California Core Corporate Policies.

CCCP.

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Quintasan commented Oct 1, 2021

It was pretty obvious that hmdne was trolling.

@Try2Code if they are not a protected class, they will lose that right, yes. That's California Core Corporate Policies in work. And we enacted them.

California Core Corporate Policies.

CCCP.

That's what I initially thought as well but #2691 got @matz's approval and got merged, so I wouldn't say it's trolling unless it's a really big joke.

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Doch88 commented Oct 1, 2021

It was pretty obvious that hmdne was trolling.

@Try2Code if they are not a protected class, they will lose that right, yes. That's California Core Corporate Policies in work. And we enacted them.

California Core Corporate Policies.
CCCP.

That's what I initially thought as well but #2691 got @matz's approval and got merged, so I wouldn't say it's trolling unless it's a really big joke.

Oh yes, he's definitely the biggest troll ever. He has my respect for that.
But he's still a troll. And they approved his crazy and no-sense pull request.

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Try2Code commented Oct 1, 2021

sorry for missing CCCP link in the other PR - now I can see the fun in it. Hm, but for further discussions we should avoid any kind of irony then ... how sad is that ;-)

proper moderation was exactly my point - no CoC can ever be a replacement for this

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hsbt commented Oct 4, 2021

See #2696 (comment)

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