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Awkward wording in Ferris description #470
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Same thoughts. |
If you have an improvement to the wording, I would happily accept a PR or suggestions as comments in this issue! Thanks! |
Simplified version (I guess people know crabs are crustaceans)
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i think maybe we can link to what a crustacean is? also i'd like to keep the pronouns (they/them) in there. its an important detail. if you want to make a PR with ur changes and my feedback i would happily accept that! |
i see a fair number of negative github reactions on my comment? are people able to elaborate? the inclusion of the pronouns is something that we like (and is just actually a question people ask about Ferris a lot)- is the pronoun portion something folks are not happy about? |
(or perhaps the negative feedback is asking for a PR? i'm also very happy to make the PR if folks don't want to.) |
@ashleygwilliams I can make the PR in a bit. Also, could you elaborate on the reason for including "(they/them)? |
i think it's nice to include because 1) people often assume that Ferris is a boy and use (he/him), but Ferris is non binary, 2) to quietly signal that pronouns are something the Rust community cares about and that this is a space that is welcoming to folks who have identities like that! |
@ashleygwilliams As far as I know gender pronouns such as these are mostly used in America, which feels a bit weird on a website targeting an international audience. I am very happy the Rust community is welcoming to everyone, I just feel it is unnecessary to give a gender to a PL mascot. I've personally never assumed any specific gender for Duke. It's maybe a cultural thing, but we don't really attribute a gender to animals or cartoon characters from my part of the world (that is, unless they explicitly do themselves like Mickey Mouse!) :) |
I'd like to suggest that the language specifying the personal pronouns be more explicit, such as a sentence “We refer to Ferris with the pronouns "they", "them", etc., rather than with gendered pronouns.” at the end of the section, because I easily can imagine someone who isn't already familiar with seeing personal pronouns specified like "Ferris (they/them)" having no idea what "they/them" in parentheses is intended to mean (maybe especially if they're less familiar with English). |
That’s an awesome suggestion @8573! I really love that ❤️ |
Note for everyone who ventures here: the reasons this issue is locked is because it irregularly receives insulting spam. The issue was discussed, the text patched and the issue closed. This is a bugtracker for people to work, using closed issues for ranting is indecent and will not be accepted. The reason why Ferris gender/pronoun is mentioned on the page is plain and simple: people ask us that question, we answer the question. It's an information page after all. |
The explanation of Ferris in the Get Started page seems literarily awkward to me and others I've shown it to. The first section uses the word "which" three times in a row (this sounds awkward), for example, and that entire thought seems over explained and could be simplified to be more concise (this is a suggestion). I'm also not sure of the reason for the inclusion of "(they/them)" in the first part (possibly unnecessary?). The second explanation seems OK but could possibly be improved to be better worded.
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