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Download link not working #515

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StevenKal opened this issue Mar 6, 2020 · 21 comments
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Download link not working #515

StevenKal opened this issue Mar 6, 2020 · 21 comments

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@StevenKal
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StevenKal commented Mar 6, 2020

The download link on the main page ("Compiled binaries are available here...") is not anymore working for me (I got a blank page on the address pointed).
Also, when this will be fixed, it will be nice to (suggestion), sort the files in your index via old to new modified/uploaded (via .htaccess parameters).
Because from a 5.11, those latest files were in the middle of the list and I personnaly mistaken once by wanted to download the latest file at the end of the page, and I think some other people may do the same mistake, by wanting to go at the end, think the latest file is matching to the latest version.

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WIndows XP

You need upgrade your OS.

@fred0r
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fred0r commented Mar 6, 2020

@StevenKal
The automated Buildsystem reported a error on the Windows-Version during Build:
http://teamcity.rehlds.org/viewLog.html?buildId=23042&buildTypeId=ReGameDLL_Publish&guest=1
I think thats the reason why there are no downloadable FIles for the last few Builds.
Take a look at the red X: https://i.imgur.com/CY3R6HL.png
In case you use Linux - look at:
http://teamcity.rehlds.org/viewLog.html?buildId=23049&tab=artifacts&buildTypeId=ReGameDLLCs_Linux --> http://teamcity.rehlds.org/repository/downloadAll/ReGameDLLCs_Linux/23049:id/artifacts.zip

@StevenKal
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StevenKal commented Mar 7, 2020

Well, from that I recall, the link on the main ReGameDLL_CS's GitHub page was just an index website (like that), which lists all the builds we can download, inside version folders.
I got a 500 error on another system when I try to reach the page, for me it's a website problem re* guys should take a look as soon as possible... or maybe I'm wrong and it's a third-party problem that cause troubles with that website.
But the fact is, no version (whatever old or new) is downloadable (and browsable in the page) from that link, so something must be fixed.
As workaround, we can still download the last version in the big link, or, from other websites, as dev-cs.ru, but well, I doubt everyone is registered on such, some people like me get use to download those binaries from GitHub.
But what about older builds in case of we need it for testing (despite there is usually no right point to use them)?
If in case devs does not want people use old builds, or mistake the file to get from the list, it would be better to remove "Compiled binaries are available here", or change it to "Latest version is available here".

PS: I hate that teamcity stuff! Too many things on it. And it's still one more website elsewhere where the content is "split". Too complicated from my point of view! I prefer staying on GitHub, and this should be centralized here.
Maybe the teamcity website is used for autobuilding, I do not know.

@fred0r
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fred0r commented Mar 13, 2020

@StevenKal
Maybe you hate it, but you're still able to download the latest builds from it in case you need the linux-binaries.
i dont know your intention, but i personally already have all older builds downloaded. and i'm only looking for the newest builds.
Currently its like:

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fred0r commented Mar 13, 2020

'Living on the Edge'

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fred0r commented Mar 13, 2020

i am not a magician and see no links in this xml

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fred0r commented Mar 13, 2020

eh - just wget'd the former url . .. :/
https://hastebin.com/raw/oseminepum

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fred0r commented Mar 13, 2020

thx

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fred0r commented Mar 13, 2020

i dont really understand your last post.
can you please post a concrete link ?
btw: tried the urls from 'your script', but it seems like i need a login on the teamcity-webpage to dl them.

@StevenKal
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StevenKal commented Mar 14, 2020

@fred0r:
My primary intention was to notify the repository owner & main ReGameDLL_CS's developer, that the link on the main informaiton page where we can find the compiled binaries is not working anymore. This was, from my opinion, important for the people, despite we could still get the latest version via the big "Download" link in the top.
Sounds like s1lentq fixed & updated it few hours ago, by using the "release" section on GitHub instead. But maybe I'm wrong.
It's clean, but only the latest remains here.
I've the feeling he is not anymore O.K. to share all the older builds in a global listing like this was the case before.
Despite the priority for people, is the latest, and all the eyes should be put on that file (enforce people getting it, not an older), I'm still thinking having all the older ones too, "on a small archive link not much visible" (which list all the files as before), will be appreciable. If in case we need it for testing purpose, issues, etc..

By the way, the main readme should be updated too, there are unaccurate/wrong sentences to change which are not longer matching with the actual status of the project or files (like in "What in this?" [I think the way "HLDS" is written in the sentence is imprecise & confusing, CS game should be specified instead, additionnaly to the fact it's extracted from HLDS b6153], or about "pure" & "bugfixed", etc.).

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fred0r commented Mar 14, 2020

i now get your point - thanks for explaining.

@StevenKal
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StevenKal commented Nov 3, 2020

Oh! Thank your for enabling back (or fixing the problem) the downloads of the old versions from your ReHLDS's repository index website.
Meantime, could you do that for ReGameDLL_CS too?
I guess now I should update and remove that small inconvenient in the post of my own ReAPI module! Hehehehehe!

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fred0r commented Dec 12, 2020

@StevenKal
Pls close that Issue and why did you delete some of your former Posts?

@StevenKal
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StevenKal commented Dec 12, 2020

Hum, I did not removed any of my posts (I usually never do that, at least for middle posts, not for the end ones which could have been unanswered), the intermediate posts between "yours" are from someone else. Certainely an idiot who do not see the problem at "fuck up" the sense of the conversation... Or, maybe an account removed, but we do not have a trace of that.
I am not sure to close that "issue", since there is still no download link for the oldest builds, despite it is not much useful now, but s1lent apparently does not give a shit of our requests, as usual.

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fred0r commented Dec 17, 2020

Dude - no one forces you to use this and you shouldnt talk like that and blame ppl for the free(!) work.

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fred0r commented Dec 17, 2020

Eh - this issue is/was about, that the dl-link didnt work, which is fixed since ages.
his current complains (make older versions downloadable) are just a different topic.

@StevenKal
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afwn* is right, the main topic is maybe named "Download link" which sounds like a "standone file link", but the rest of the subject (that I have asked is also about that index listing which is, unfortunately, no longer available).
As I said before, the latest version is the priority, but having all the older could still be interesting too, as testing purpose or issues, etc., and I might personnaly need them for possible backward compatibility with older version, in the future AMX Mod version I am working on.

@fred0r: I guess you are refering to the part where I say "s1lent apparently does not give a shit of our requests, as usual".

Firstly, the "no ones forces you" is too much a sily excuse according to me.

Secondly, Re* things are maybe free, and obviously "free" things deverse to be more respected (I could not agree more!), because when we pay for something we have a bit the right to "exige" things about it, when we do not, so much less. But in my opinion, and, to be correct (by principle), a minimum support for the people who use those stuff should be provided.
People do things, either for money, or either/and for "ego satisfaction", the third case is "just like that", but it is more rare, people usually do not give a shit to do "huge free things" for others "just like that", especially long & fastidious like such projects.
The problem I am indirectly evoking with my tone, is that the guys behind the Re* projects promoted their stuff, adviced them to the people, etc., but step by step old "lead devs" (Dreamstalker, Asmodai) left, mainly s1lent remains additionnaly to some contributors. Some people left, it happens, but well, about s1lent, it is appreciable he is still around, but he could do more efforts about communicating with the people using its stuff, because this is the main guy behind. I am pretty sure he is happy to see that his work attracted a lot of people, and who are using it, and faithfull to it from a while. I remember dreamstalker saying about one ReHLDS goal was to "Fix some issues due to VALVe's apathy at doing nothing", O.K., he is not s1lent, but well, his project had the same goal but s1lent also has that major apathy at not communicating with its users, similar to who? VALVe!

And look, I maintain alone the original AMX Mod addon, and do a lot of stuff for it (including my own version of "ReAPI" module), and the whole stuff is free too & deserve respect (I already said that multiple times to people, also said that I already did hundred of hours of work on it), while a bunch of them do not hesitate to spread some bullshits, etc., like I saw a stupid 16 years old kid saying things like "I am mentally toxic" or pretty childish in my explanations (while I am pretty honest with them and I am also 2x older than this idiot kid), and this is even almost laughable. And I even recall dumb people saying "there is no support, etc.", while I am very active, or, other insulting me, etc., because I do not think & do like the others or because they just agree other's people bullshits without documenting themselves before, pathetic.

And, unlike s1lent, when people ask me things, I am polite & took time to answer them, and even grant their requests, I do not say to them "stop complaining & do your request/plugin yourself", or "it is free, so stop begging", what the hell is that? I might say "no", but at least I will answer them. What about non-programmers users who want things on it, do you really think they are gonna learn C++ to add them on those projects? Besides what guarantee do they have their PRs will be merged if s1lent does not care for some? He never talk about his feelings, even not say a simple "Yes" or "No".
But well, when I see some of you doing, and, when it's about the Re* projects, oh god! If I dare criticize something about it like the "almost no support", you are almost like "shame on me, do not even dare criticize those Russian gods, you asshole!", hum.

Also, I am not a "regular user", I basically need a few things to be changed/added in those projects in order to provide a proper compatibility with my future AMX Mod versions, which is, an addon for "the other users" (and those other users might use Re* projects, a lot of them do), that's why my requests are like mandatory. That is also why I am insisting, and why the non-reply from s1lent bothers me.

As I already said a few times, overal Re* projects are good (content, quality, etc.), but there are some lacks, one of the major is the lack of support (or even just no support), and it's mainly concerning s1lent himself.
For example, he registered some years ago on my forum, I sent him two PMs, he saw them but never replied to me, then, recently (two weeks ago), I also send him an email (due to an advice of someone), and he still did not replied and probably will not. I do not see the point to provide a contact email if he does not care to be polite & answer to the people asking him things.
And I am not a idiot guy who spam him every week, or barely explain myself, or ask stupid things/help I could find in the already available doc (like in the main readme or "game.cfg"), no, I was quite eloquent, precise, polite in my requests, I even proposed him some "donation" for the requests I have about both Re* projects, but he does not care, it is almost like his mom did not teached him how to interact with other people... he has such a major issue regarding this it is amazing.
He has time to write a tons of lines of code (so, unregular words indirectly), but have no time to answer to some people like me who took time to write some texts? This is impolite according to me, and the fact it is a free project is not a valid excuse, so the part where I say "he does not give a shit", is truthful, and I maintain & insist with it.

I basically do not know what to do now to trigger an answer from him (or should I start an issue here?), I am loosing patience, this pisses me off, additionnaly to the fact I do not like much when people do not reply to me, especially when I am polite & respectful.
This is one of the reasons why I do not like ReHLDS & do not use it, and, if he does not make efforts to answer me at one moment, I will also stop using & advice ReGameDLL at some point. Maybe if one day he saw the amount of RGCS users drop significantly due to that he will react.

Probably some of you will think I am just a too much exigent asshole, so be it, but well, I already faced multiple times highly exigent people regarding that I am working on, and I can assure you that my demands (have an email answer from the lead dev, and, a few minor & useful requests being granted where I even purpose money for them if needed), are far to be classified as high exigences!
Besides, I am pretty sure that this stagnant behavior at not answering questions & requests of the users does not help at increasing activity over here, and could even lead at some users stopping having interest for such projects (because when we ask something and that no one reply it is disturbing), and does not motivate them to contribute too.

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fred0r commented Dec 20, 2020

uoh - it wasnt my intention to 'trigger' you - sorry about that :/
But your Main-Point seems to be, that you miss a 'reliable Way', to get feedback about rehlds/regamedll_cs.
I think i know what you mean, since i (also) joind some .ru-Forums where silentq writes/releases 'official stuff' and even there he is not really active.
@s1lentq - is there a way to change this? are you even interested in?

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StevenKal commented Dec 20, 2020

Forgiven!
Well, he does "acts of presence" in some areas, but almost never talk, I do not know if this is his behavior (which I consider impolite), or if he likes to be worthy of his name and stay "silent" (and maybe want all the other communicate between them instead of him), but whatever the reason, it is not cool.

@s1lentq:
Yeah, I am also very curious to know if there is a way to make you react with people asking you questions!
Also, if you do not have plans to do that, seriously, just remove your email address from your profile, because you are giving some kind of "false hope" to the people since you did not learn to communicate or do not give a shit about.
You provide a contact email but never respond, I think it is even worst than providing no contact. Maybe you want to make believe the people they can "reach you" (to avoid people saying "we can not contact him"), but once they see the deception since you do not reply via mail, here, or elsewhere... They can become very disapointed & even angry (like me)!

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silentq commented Dec 21, 2020

@StevenKal I am not the silentq your looking for. If you look at the name it’s @s1lentq not “silentq”. No idea what the project even is so I can’t help you.

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Sorry it was just a typo. Yes, I meant @s1lentq, not you.

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