General Fee Quest

[ServusWorld]

General

Currently, there are quests to complete whether there is a fee for toilets or a car parks.
But there are many other OSM objects where the fee tag could be used.

Affected key(s) (or tags) to be modified: fee
Question asked: Does it cost something to use this [object type]?

Checklist

Checklist for quest suggestions (see guidelines):

• 🚧 To be added tag is established and has a useful purpose
• 🤔 Any answer the user can give must have an equivalent tagging (Quest should not reappear to other users when solved by one)
• 🐿️ Easily answerable by everyone from the outside but a survey is necessary
• 💤 Not an overwhelming percentage of elements have the same answer (No spam)
• 🕓 Applies to a reasonable number of elements (Worth the effort)

Ideas for implementation

Element selection: (see list of objects below) with [!fee]

Metadata needed: Not necessarily, but maybe some objects could be disabled in some countries if there is a strong tendency for things to be (not) free so that it is obsolete to ask it

Proposed GUI: Simply a yes/no form as it already exists for the 2 current fee quests.

(Incomplete) List of POIs possibly with fee:

• Museums: tourism=museum
• Attractions: tourism=attraction
• Theme parks: tourism=theme_park (could be "no" if it is to be paid at the particular attractions)
• Galleries: tourism=gallery
• Viewpoints: tourism=viewpoint
• Public gardens: leisure=garden
• Beach resorts: leisure=beach_resort
• Charging stations: amenity=charging_station
• Newspaper vending "machines": [amenity=vending_machine][vending=newspapers]
• Charging stations (for mobile phones etc.): amenity=device_charging_station
• and of course amenity=toilets and amenity=parking

[rugk]

As an icons, how about just a wad of money?

Just FYI: That is even already designed.

And generally, please always fill out the issue template when suggesting a new quest.

[HolgerJeromin]

leisure=pitch, leisure=playground, tourism=viewpoint

There are probably too many without fee.

[ServusWorld]

You're right. I will remove them from the list

[CloCkWeRX]

Its a pity device_charging_station isn't too widespread, that'd be a pretty useful thing to know when travelling

[ServusWorld]

That's true. I will add it.

[westnordost]

Before implementation, it should be carefully considered for which amenities this question should be asked. Rather start with less than too many.

[RubenKelevra]

I've added an additional ticket for charging fees on charge stations. This is pretty more difficult than yes or no, which I explain in this ticket, so it might be worth a discussion with the community before adding this to SC, to be able to add additional information per plug type or similar, before flooding the database with not-that-accurate-informations.

#904

[matkoniecz]

Museums: tourism=museum

I expect fee=yes spam. At least in my city 98%+ are paid (some have free days, but it is not appearing common enough across the world to make quest for it).

Attractions: tourism=attraction

tourism=attraction is qualifier of other objects (so would be covered by quests for other objects) and in case of atypical objects (field/rock/railway tracks/bridge etc) tourism attractions are almost always unpaid ones.

Theme parks: tourism=theme_park (could be "no" if it is to be paid at the particular attractions)

I would still describe "if it is to be paid at the particular attractions" to be paid.

Viewpoints: tourism=viewpoint

In Poland it would be fee=no spam.

Public gardens: leisure=garden

Maybe, would require special answer for "it is a private garden" so it requires separate special quest.

Newspaper vending "machines": [amenity=vending_machine][vending=newspapers]

There are free ones?

Charging stations (for mobile phones etc.): amenity=device_charging_station

Only 97 uses across the entire world, not worth time to make a quest - https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org//search?q=amenity%3Ddevice_charging_station

and of course amenity=toilets and amenity=parking

Makes sense, quests exist already.

[westnordost]

So, uh, is there anything left where it makes sense to ask?

[matkoniecz]

tourism=gallery, leisure=garden and leisure=beach_resort are not appearing in my list, these may or may not make sense - I have no significant experience with this kind of objects

[rugk]

tourism=museum[...] At least in my city 98%+ are paid

Depends on the city. AFAIK in London all public museums are free.

[rugk]

tourism=gallery is the same as museum, IMHO.

[matkoniecz]

Depends on the city. AFAIK in London all public museums are free.

Interesting. So quest may be spammy in a given region (fee=yes spam in Poland, fee=no spam in UK...) but overall information is useful. I wonder how @westnordost feels about this situation in context of "no spam guideline".

[rugk]

In the UK (or, at least London) I think you may still have private museums, but I am not sure about that.

[matkoniecz]

Thanks a further research now I can say that asking about fee makes sense for museums and I withdraw my negative opinion.

I also plan on making "does it cost a fee to visit xyz" PR for museums (after fixing issues in my construction PR).

[rugk]

And for the museum we already have an icon (for #890), so only a small coin etc. on the icon may be needed to have a good icon for it.

[matkoniecz]

leisure=beach_resort has fee tag in 10% of cases ( https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/leisure=beach_resort#overview http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/xdk ), description on wiki has "Entry may also require payment of a fee". For simplicity I would ask only if object has a name (only 757 is currently without name - http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/xdl ).

[matkoniecz]

Note that of 4400 tourism=gallery only 44 has currently fee tag ( http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/xdm https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/tourism=gallery ).

[matkoniecz]

Vast majority of gardens has no fee tag.

Overall I propose to add quests for tourism=museum, leisure=beach_resort and maybe for tourism=gallery. Some generic coin icon would be useful.

[matkoniecz]

I implemented this and promptly discovered that at least in my city nearly all tourism=gallery are actually art shops.

Supposedly this is mistagging so it should be fine. Also, adding fee tag may help in finding mistagged shop=art (at least in Poland tourism=gallery fee=yes is not going to be art shop, tourism=gallery fee=no is quite likely to be mistagged art shop).