Python folding is bad

[ipsod]

Good folding

See Vim, PyCharm with IdeaVim, or org-mode for a decent implementation of folding. Unfold one level, and the levels below it remain folded, giving you an outline.

Evil folding problems

Unfolding a region unfolds all sub-regions. This basically ruins any benefit of folding.

Origami folding problems

Folds are only one-level deep. Methods inside of classes, for example, are not fold-able.

People said that Origami is better than Evil, but Origami can't even fold class methods - am I missing something?

Vimish-Fold problems

No syntax-based folding.

Solution?

I don't know how people can browse code without proper folding. Is there some navigation method I'm missing?

I've tried helm-jump-in-buffer, but it's way more clunky than code folding, since it always starts from the top instead of relative to where you are in code, and is an abstraction instead of a direct representation of code.

[ostrbor]

I use C-c @ ...
Also imenu

[braham-snyder]

syntax-based folding

For https://github.com/alexmurray/evil-vimish-fold, https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs/blob/master/doc/DOCUMENTATION.org#indent-text-object works quite well.

Unfortunately, vimish-fold (upon which evil-vimish-fold depends) still lacks folds over folds (if you're reading this and would like to see this feature implemented, I think it would help to go thumbs-up that issue).

[vv111y]

100X yes, this is a major pain point.
Right now I am very grateful for Treemacs, I expand files to visualize the structure of the code. But the files need to be in a project that is manually added to treemacs, this is not available for an arbitrary file.
I gave thumbs up for that issue @braham-snyder. I'm surprised in all of emacs-land this has not been done

As @ostrbor says, hideshow might be what to use for now https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/746cd0/which_code_folding_package_do_you_use/

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[mixmixmix]

Hello, I've circled back to this issue - I cannot find any way of indentation-based folding in Python (tried all three origami/vimish/evil to no avail). The best I can do is to fold whole functions and classes in evil.
Anything eveolved in this regard since 2020?