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Do you plan to have an official page or accessible public documentation for the New Templaza Astroid? #68

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Chacapamac opened this issue Jan 10, 2022 · 22 comments
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Chacapamac commented Jan 10, 2022

I ask because I collect the existing documentation ( https://docs.joomdev.com/category/astroid-user-manual/) from Joomdev. I’m still collecting every important bit and piece I can find.
I can easily repurpose and improve the existing documentation to not infringe any copyright. When done, you can place it on your (or a new) website and I can also work on the Wiki here, on Github.

I think, if you are serious about Astroid, it will be great to start an official page and Forum section of your Templaza website or a new public website dedicated to Astroid.
I’m extremely busy until mid-February, but I will be please to help put something together. After March, I can give you at least 1/4 or more of my day only on Astroid if needed.

Yesterday, I ask Joomdev if they let you copy their entire Youtube Playlist — Astroid Joomla Framework Tutorials
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLv9TlpLcSZTBBVpJqe3SdJ34A6VvicXqM
to your own or a new YouTube Channel for safekeeping.

If I don’t have any answer, I will try directly with Chetan that works at Joomdev and make most, if not all of these Videos.

If I still don’t have an answer, after March, I can start to produce pros videos tutorials (in French & English) — We can start by highlighting the new functions you are adding to Astroid and after, starting with the most important functions that need really help by video.

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sonvnn commented Jan 10, 2022

Hi @Chacapamac & @Joomlaplates ,

Thank you very much, I'm glad we have contributors like you. I want to do this project as a standalone project. It will not be related to TempPlaza.com. Because I welcome all Joomler to participate in this project. So I was planning to create an official page for Astroid Framework. I bought domain astroidframe.work

Please check my Plan:

  • February 2022: Official page launched
  • March 2022: Video Tutorials page launched
  • April 2022: Partner page (contributor websites list like Joomla Resource page)

Thank you very much!
Best Regards,
Sonny

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Thats a really great idea to create an own domainand webspace with tutorials.
Regards Peter

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sonvnn commented Jan 10, 2022

When the website is ready! I will need your hand, I will assign both of you as admins for update tutorials.

Thank you,
Sonny

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Great, I continue to spread the word on joomla.org

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rinka88 commented Jan 10, 2022

but is it possible for them (joomdev) to ask for the domain previously used for this framework

@Chacapamac
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Joomdev seem to be totally unresponsive on anything Joomla now. I posts some demands on the old (archive) forum as I have a subscription and nothing...
3 days ago, I contact them by the mail address on their new website to ask if it can be possible to transfer (copy) their Astroid YouTube video playlists documentation to another YouTube Account for safekeeping and reuse but nothing, no answer. I will try to email directly Chetan (from Joomdev) as we become somewhat friendly (on their forum as I help them with some stuff) and see. But, on my side, the door seem close...

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Joomlaplates commented Jan 12, 2022

Hi Sonny,
I ripped all Youtube Videos from the Astroid Joomdev Playlist, before they are not available anymore.
Maybe you can include them into the new Astroid website.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XP18N-tJAkgDz9WKav0ycd1hYcmNzgBe/view?usp=sharing

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@Joomlaplates

I ripped all Youtube Videos from the Astroid Joomdev Playlist, before they are not available anymore.

How big is the zip file and in what format the video are?

Great, Still no news from Joomdev about using their Videos, I will send another email today and I will go directly toChetan Madaan to ask if not successful.

The only problem here is the copyright, sure it’s easy to change the front image on the videos to make it more personal to this project. I will look at the copyright laws on Youtube

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Hello,
the file size is about 450MB ZIP file and the format is mp4.

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Chacapamac commented Jan 13, 2022

Just download it, seem to work, I also made a backup — I will test them all.
Cool Stuff!

Now we have all the documentation (I download it) and the videos!

Documentation:
https://docs.joomdev.com/category/astroid-user-manual/

Look at the documentation, I like the visual, really ergonomic, clean & easy to navigate and find stuff...
QUESTION: Anybody know how it’s made? URL is —> https://docs..... Google Docs ??????

Video Documentation:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLv9TlpLcSZTBBVpJqe3SdJ34A6VvicXqM

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The Joomdev documentation was made with a wordpress theme
https://demo.herothemes.com/helpguru/

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Chacapamac commented Jan 13, 2022

Ok, super easy to redo in simple code in Joomla. It’s the “https://docs” that make me think of some kind of systems.

Also, can be done with:
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Top search made with a Joomla Smart Search
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First page that Show categories of documents with number of articles
Can be made with Joomla module “Articles - Categories”
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Second page that Show all articles in the category chosen in the first page
Can be made with Joomla module “Articles - Category”
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Can be surrounded with “ Articles - Most Read” module & “Articles - Related” or whatever you need.

You probably can also use the Joomla menu items to do the same thing.

  • Menu Item List All Categories
  • Menu Item Article Category List

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sonvnn commented Jan 14, 2022

Hi All,

No worry about Astroid Framework site. I will release it in February. I will busy until February 7th, 2022 because Lunar New Year.

@Chacapamac , @Joomlaplates: May you help me create a Youtube Channel and control it? It will be official channel of Astroid when the site is live.

Thanks & Best Regards,
Sonny

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Chacapamac commented Jan 14, 2022

May you help me create a Youtube Channel and control it? It will be official channel of Astroid when the site is live.

@sonvnn , @Joomlaplates :

What we need is:
The name of the channel: e.g. —> Astroid Framework Joomla (doesn't exist..)

The official email address related to the new Youtube channel
— Ideally a GMAIL
— Need to create a separated Google account, anyway you need one for the analytics of the website.
e.g. astroid-framework@gmail.com
IMPORTANT: Ideally, it should be done by the main person associated to the project.
After that you can be add users/admin to that Google account

after, the Youtube channel can be easily created (by any administrators with access) in this Google Account made especially for the New Astroid.

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sonvnn commented Feb 7, 2022

Hello @Chacapamac & @Joomlaplates,

We use Vimeo in TemPlaza. I created an Vimeo Channel https://vimeo.com/channels/1767263
Please send me your email here. I will invite you to my team so you can upload video to channel.

Kind Regards,
Sonny

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Not sure Vimeo will maximise the impact.

If you decide to go with Vimeo, I think It will be easy to duplicate the Astroid Vimeo Channel on an New Astroid YouTube channel. I can take care of that personally.

Some big advantages of YouTube
• Over 2 billion users log in and watch videos on YouTube every month, whereas Vimeo has just 973,000 registered users in total
• YouTube is absolutely free with no cap — Not Vimeo, lot of cap and restrictions
• Also Youtube is integrated with Google Analytic

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Just my 5 cent.
I think Vimeo is looking much better and more professional, but it needs more time to setup everything. And I am not sure if Vimeo support Playlists, Folder ect pp.
.. and I agree with Chacamac above, youre right with everything.
Regards Peter

PS: I dont like Youtube, because its a Google company and their restrictions!

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Playlists are important as you can class video by categories, really important for Tutorials. I guess we can have both. The work will be more the production. After it’s only uploading them. I think I will choose Vimeo if I was a cameraman or a video professional to show my work. But for organizing tutorials, I think YouTube is the way to go. Astroid was on YouTube originally.

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sonvnn commented Feb 8, 2022

Hello @Chacapamac & @Joomlaplates,

OK, Youtube has 2 votes. So, I created an Google account (astroidframework@gmail.com). I will share password to both of you. So you can use this account to publish video. Because this account is free so I can not add team member but we can use this as share account for free.

Please email me via sonlv@templaza.com. I will share password to you.

Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUHl1uU0Ofkyo-1ke-K4_xg

Kind Regards,
Sonny

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Chacapamac commented Feb 8, 2022

Great News as we can also use the same google account for analytics not only for the videos, but for the future website.
I send you my email in few minutes....

I see that 15 videos are already there, cool.

I will take care of the YouTube Header, look & design, if it’s ok wit everybody.
I plan to add a clean modern – Astroid Look to all that.

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sonvnn commented Feb 9, 2022

Hi @Chacapamac @Joomlaplates

I upload Astroid official to astroidframe.work. Please help me check it.

Kind Regards,
Sonny

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I just see the new Astroid official website and it’s a very good start —> https://astroidframe.work/
I will come back wit suggestions.
Great work Sonny....

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